Powers & Abilities Sword skill (without haki) is a myth: Haki makes a master swordsman

[uyuu]

Real swordsman are those who cut stuff they want to cut. Shanks and Roger just didn't wanted. Zoro wanted too. There's a fuckin difference.

You wanting Shanks and Roger to be the swordsmen who dont want to cut their enemies, makes no difference. The leaf Zoro didnt want to cut, didnt experience any damage. So you saying that has no support. Shanks break Kidd's cannon roughly into two parts, Roger vs WB displayed the same blast. No sharp, no cutting. Their CoC is dominant, the black lightning and CoC invisible zone and crushing force was dominant. Their swordsmanship was well..okay at least they could swing their sword.

 

[Cruxroux]

You wanting Shanks and Roger to be the swordsmen who dont want to cut their enemies, makes no difference. The leaf Zoro didnt want to cut, didnt experience any damage. So you saying that has no support. Shanks break Kidd's cannon roughly into two parts, Roger vs WB displayed the same blast. No sharp, no cutting. Their CoC is dominant, the black lightning and CoC invisible zone and crushing force was dominant. Their swordsmanship was well..okay at least they could swing their sword.

Man this is dumb to even argue , Oda already gave all the swordsman in a single pic

 

[uyuu]

Scars or cuts happen when it matters to the story oherwise they are irrelevant.
Check MR1 fight ...Zoro should've been full of scars .

The railgun was cut and like any other machine cut when the energy is flowing it blew up.

CoC zone?
Mate the same happened when Zoro used acoc the ones around got k.o

The railgun was not cut, it was broken into two large pieces and smaller broken pieces. See Kidd's torso disappear, and the disappearing area followed the direction of Shanks' swing, generating CoC zone art where the impact core become invisible surrounded with black lightning. That was not a cut, that was blunt damage. Zoro's attack to King was a cut.

No blowing up effect, the railgun had white lightning effect, that was AdvCoC no-touch effect. Very different.

 

[zzShinichi]

The railgun was not cut, it was broken into two large pieces and smaller broken pieces. See Kidd's torso disappear, and the disappearing area followed the direction of Shanks' swing, generating CoC zone art where the impact core become invisible surrounded with black lightning. That was not a cut, that was blunt damage. Zoro's attack to King was a cut.

No blowing up effect, the railgun had white lightning effect, that was AdvCoC no-touch effect. Very different.

"it was broken into two large pieces and smaller broken pieces."
That's...what getting cut meant...
Cmon you are better than this air bar shit.

 

[uyuu]

Man this is dumb to even argue , Oda already gave all the swordsman in a single pic

Yea that must be exactly why Roger is depicted very small since he was just okay as a swordsman, just with huge CoC. Welp you wanna argue that Shanks and Roger actually just didnt want to cut their enemies by their CoC move when they actually can. Well you have no panel support to prove it. Their dominantly CoC attack has blunt damage.

 

[zzShinichi]

Yea that must be exactly why Roger is depicted very small since he was just okay as a swordsman, just with huge CoC. Welp you wanna argue that Shanks and Roger actually just didnt want to cut their enemies by their CoC move when they actually can. Well you have no panel support to prove it. Their dominantly CoC attack has blunt damage.

And Shanks-The Swordman- is seen bowing to the real World Strongest Swordman :cheers:

 

[Cruxroux]

Yea that must be exactly why Roger is depicted very small since he was just okay as a swordsman, just with huge CoC. Welp you wanna argue that Shanks and Roger actually just didnt want to cut their enemies by their CoC move when they actually can. Well you have no panel support to prove it. Their dominantly CoC attack has blunt damage.

Yo wtf stop with the delusion.
Oda can't fit them all in front. Its nearly impossible

 

[zzShinichi]

Man you can't make this shit up, Shanks bros are arguing that Kid's rail gun getting blown in 2 half are not the same as getting cut in 2 half

 

[aiyanah]

Man this is dumb to even argue , Oda already gave all the swordsman in a single pic

fanart
bird eyes doesn't believe shanksmon to be a swordsman, he has the eyes for it after all.

 

[uyuu]

"it was broken into two large pieces and smaller broken pieces."
That's...what getting cut meant...
Cmon you are better than this air bar shit.

What the...i didnt invent air bar term lol. I just said that it was not cut, it was more alike to someone smash a plate into two pieces using blunt force. Thats not a cut. You do see Mihawk's cut and Zoro's cut. They're precise. Shanks' cut was, well...you ever see someone breaking something into two pieces using a hammer? Just like it, the pieces are broken.

 

[zzShinichi]

What the...i didnt invent air bar term lol. I just said that it was not cut, it was more alike to someone smash a plate into two pieces using blunt force. Thats not a cut. You do see Mihawk's cut and Zoro's cut. They're precise. Shanks' cut was, well...you ever see someone breaking something into two pieces using a hammer? Just like it, the pieces are broken.

I've been breaking a lot of thing and I can tell you that Kid's rail gun won't split in half like that if it's hit by a blunt force.
Split
In
Half
Sounds like when you are cutting something right>
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People says that Haki is part of Swordsman.

Why guy not Swordsmans uses?

Luffy,Garp,etc..

Why is Garp called Garp The Fist, Not Garp The Hakiman?
It's as if haki is just a part of your current fighting style
Also, explain Whitebeard's scar if all Roger does is attacking with blunt force @uyuu

 

[uyuu]

Yo wtf stop with the delusion.
Oda can't fit them all in front. Its nearly impossible

So he chose to draw Roger, the exact peak of OP verse according to WSC, in the smallest sidelines?

Well okay...you said Oda draw that? Can you give me the reference? You have avoided the manga panels showing CoC blunt crushing damage in every instance including Luffy vs Kaidou, Roger vs WB, and Shanks buldozing Kidd and you want all of them to be a cut? So apparently Luffy and Kaidou also master swordsmen who just didnt want to cut their enemies but generate the exact same void CoC zone art style as Shanks and Roger...

 

[Konstantis]

he is not a pure swordsman his skill doesnt revolve around sword alone like BM
Shanks, Mihawk, Rayleigh or Zoro purly revolve around the sword thats the different

Zoro said that King is not a swordman, cry

 

[zzShinichi]

Zoro said that King is not a swordman, cry

Well Zoro didn't say Shanks is not a swordman, while Oda says Shanks is a swordman

 

[uyuu]

I've been breaking a lot of thing and I can tell you that Kid's rail gun won't split in half like that if it's hit by a blunt force.
Split
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Half
Sounds like when you are cutting something right>
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Why is Garp called Garp The Fist, Not Garp The Hakiman?
It's as if haki is just a part of your current fighting style
Also, explain Whitebeard's scar if all Roger does is attacking with blunt force @uyuu

No, breaking things in half with blunt object like CoC is not the same as cutting it.

...uh you want to provide those panels of Roger cutting WB while using AdvCoC zone?

 

[zzShinichi]

No, breaking things in half with blunt object like CoC is not the same as cutting it.

...uh you want to provide those panels of Roger cutting WB while using AdvCoC zone?

How do you even know if it's blunt force while everything points towards Kid's rail gun getting split in half
I mean if you are fighting the world strongest man, would you want to use your full arsernal to fight him and actually scar him

 

[HA001]

Like cmon Man. Kidd' stomach was fully hit with blunt force, that was in line with the direction of Shanks' swing. The black lightning, the void zone hitting Kidd's stomach and chest without cutting effect, the crude and crushed way the magnetic cannon was split apart into two as well as small crushed pieces, the invisible zone of CoC releasing black lightning pushing both Kidd and his crew away instead of electric energy, its just there, Shanks swung his sword creating CoC zone buldozing both Kidd and Killer. The electric beams of damned punk were just slipping inside the remaining smoke. Like it was all CoC sphere and blunt crushing force and black lightning of CoC

You chatting shit.



Divine departure sends you flying like it did to Oden.
Kidd didn't move

 

[Konstantis]

Well Zoro didn't say Shanks is not a swordman, while Oda says Shanks is a swordman

Shanks was a swordman

 

[HA001]

Shanks was a swordman

Is a swordsman

 

[uyuu]

How do you even know if it's blunt force while everything points towards Kid's rail gun getting split in half
I mean if you are fighting the world strongest man, would you want to use your full arsernal to fight him and actually scar him

Kidd's torso was hit by Shanks' no-touch CoC zone. In the doublespread, it was shown in the center. After the doublespread, it was even clearer. Kidd was shown spitting blood while his torso disappeared completely, that was Shanks' "slash/swing" whatever hitting his chest-stomach and decorated with black lightning flying around. And Kidd's chest was not cut at all, Shanks cut gave blunt damage. And you ever see Zoro cut a metal so crudely like Shanks' cut shape over the railgun? Small pieces cracked, broken, flying away like that doublespread? That didnt show Shanks as a good swordsman at all lol.

Well if you just want to imagine hypothetical scenarios, i can also imagine both Roger and WB depleted all their CoC and only their weapons were left, resulting in Roger scarring WB. Anything can happen in offscreen, it doesnt have to be Roger disrespecting WB's strength...even when Luffy's base / G2 attack was avoided by hybrid Kaidou.