Fanclub Temple of The Grandmaster Zoro

[Ena]

Killer, Orochi, Kyoshiro, King, Kaido
Zoro is fighting against all of em this arc.
Killer was the first one, orochi is the next

 

[Gran D. Master]

So what level was 18 y/o Oden? Remember he was already using Enma casually by then so he had to be stronger than current Zoro

 

[Ice devil slayer]

So what level was 18 y/o Oden? Remember he was already using Enma casually by then so he had to be stronger than current Zoro

He doesn't have enough feats atm

 

[Gran D. Master]

He doesn't have enough feats atm

The Enma thing is a feat within itself

 

[Zowo]

The Enma thing is a feat within itself

hard to tell
18 years old oden vs zoro pre enma

 

[Ice devil slayer]

The Enma thing is a feat within itself

Zoro used Enma casually too when he cut that cliff in that gag moment so we have to wait

 

[Gran D. Master]

hard to tell
18 years old oden vs zoro pre enma

I think as of right now, Oden at 18 > any version of Zoro

 

[Zowo]

I think as of right now, Oden at 18 > any version of Zoro

 

[Gran D. Master]

Zoro used Enma casually too when he cut that cliff in that gag moment so we have to wait

But we're seen Oden use the sword in actual combat after the recent chapter. Also he clearly had the sword for some time by then, opposed to Zoro who held it for 5 days

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Give an argument

 

[MD Zolo]

So what level was 18 y/o Oden? Remember he was already using Enma casually by then so he had to be stronger than current Zoro

It has to be considered how long Oden had Enma with him before he mastered it. Zoro is now using it casually after 4 days of training with it. So, we can't say that Zoro wouldn't have been able to use it if it was given to him when he was 18.

However, Oden does look quite strong and appears a more buffed-up version of Zoro in terms of strength (in terms of personality, he is 100% Luffy though).

 

[Zowo]

But we're seen Oden use the sword in actual combat after the recent chapter. Also he clearly had the sword for some time by then, opposed to Zoro who held it for 5 days

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Give an argument

 

[Ice devil slayer]

But we're seen Oden use the sword in actual combat after the recent chapter. Also he clearly had the sword for some time by then, opposed to Zoro who held it for 5 days

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Give an argument

That's true well then we'll have to wait and see how Zoro use Enma in an actual fight

 

[Gran D. Master]

It has to be considered how long Oden had Enma with him before he mastered it

You're completely missing the point; it's not a case of how long it takes someone to master it. You literally have to be at a certain level of strength to be able to use it at all. So the Oden we've seen this chapter has to be at least as strong as current Zoro, but Oden used the sword in actual combat so he should be given the edge

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Zoro himself said he will be much stronger by the time he gets used to Enma, the same Enma we've seen Oden casually use in chapter 961

 

[Zowo]

i miss zoro having real fights against strong opponents

 

[KiriNigiri]

Zoro himself said he will be much stronger by the time he gets used to Enma, the same Enma we've seen Oden casually use in chapter 961

Zoro said he would be stronger after mastering Enma. That doesn't say anything about his strength in relation to Oden at 18.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Remember when Oda made Zoro's dream becoming the WSS? The same Zoro who didn't have a serious fight against a swordsman over the past decade

Wano is like the last chance tbh.

And so far I think we are in a good route....I hope.

If we end the arc with something like Kyoshiro as the final enemy then Oda really forget about his goal.

 

[MD Zolo]

You're completely missing the point; it's not a case of how long it takes someone to master it. You literally have to be at a certain level of strength to be able to use it at all. So the Oden we've seen this chapter has to be at least as strong as current Zoro, but Oden used the sword in actual combat so he should be given the edge

I guess I am slightly missing the point. But again, when Enma was given to Zoro, he was able to use it without exhausting himself. So, while not mastered, Zoro was strong enough to use it. Now, Zoro said that Zoro would be 'even stronger' once he masters Enma. That doesn't say anything about his power-level pre-Enma in relationship with Oden's power-level.

So, now, the question is would Zoro be able to use it when he was 18. I am inclined to say no cause Zoro didn't have the ability to use Haki back then.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

I think as of right now, Oden at 18 > any version of Zoro

Back to business i see...

 

[Gran D. Master]

Zoro said he would be stronger after mastering Enma. That doesn't say anything about his strength in relation to Oden at 18.

He said it because mastering Enma required him to be stronger

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I guess I am slightly missing the point. But again, when Enma was given to Zoro, he was able to use it without exhausting himself. So, while not mastered, Zoro was strong enough to use it. Now, Zoro said that Zoro would be 'even stronger' once he masters Enma. That doesn't say anything about his power-level pre-Enma in relationship with Oden's power-level.

So, now, the question is would Zoro be able to use it when he was 18. I am inclined to say no cause Zoro didn't have the ability to use Haki back then.

Tell me, if Mihawk picked up Enma would he need to train to be able to use it?

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Back to business i see...

Upsetting you by making valid points

 

[ShadyOjiro]

He said it because mastering Enma required him to be stronger

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Tell me, if Mihawk picked up Enma would he need to train to be able to use it?

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Upsetting you by making valid points

Valid points?

Sir, you r way off of the meaning of such.