Is jinbe gonna witness greatness soon?


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there is nothing to worry about, lucci gonna show far more than he did against luffy and zoro will still destroy him, possible clash with lightsaber kizaru in between fight then stop saturne plan to kill emperor luffy plus possible combo attack with luffy vs motherflame used by a pissed york. There is going to be so much feats the cope will be surreal.
Just expecting more lucci skills
I said the KoH because loda Maybe want zoro traumatized lucci and to surprise lucci that yonko partner has the haori color
 
I'm sorry you feel it that way, byt if that's your view, I suggest you to quit One Piece. What is the point of reading a story you hate?
I don't know about your point: Lucci's portrayal is by far higher than the likes of a Yonko Commander who has been treated like a trash can by an admiral.
do you have receipts of claiming that Lucci is stronger than King BEFORE this chapter dropped? If you just came up with this take then you're blatantly in damage control mode.
 
By the way I like the fact zoro view the overconfidence in an admiral against himself and luffy as seriously underestimating them (litteraly an insult and it make sense cause they literaly emperor level now) and also Zoro proxy hyped luffy in his speech to lucci and luffy returned the favor by proxy hyping Zoro against kizaru. It was perfect setup.
 
do you have receipts of claiming that Lucci is stronger than King BEFORE this chapter dropped? If you just came up with this take then you're blatantly in damage control mode.
I never ever rated King too high, I always considered him as an average yonko 1, stronger than Kata but not than Marco, and I've hated all the hype around him. Zoro with Enma not fighting against him and once discovered the trick folded him easly.

Lucci didn't do a splendind figure against Gear 5, but the same did Kaido. I don't understand all this Lucci disrespect. He still is one of the men the Navy values the most, right under the admirals, and Oda made him compare himself to Kizaru in this chapter. He has the ability to one-tap a defensive master like Sentomaru, something Kizaru in this chapter could not do.

Am I the one in damage control? Because I rate Lucci above King? Or is it because I am not mad that a fight i was not expecting to happen did not happen? After ZKK, I am not expecting anything too special for Zoro anymore. A fight vs Lucci, who was the top1 rookie genius ever for Cypher-Pol and the top agent of Cp-0 is not looking this bad to me, instead, is something I'm excited for.

We'll see anyway, depending on how the fight goes, we will be able to scale Lucci accordingly.
 
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I never ever rated King too high, I always considered him as an average yonko 1, stronger than Kata but not than Marco, and I've hated all the hype around him. Zoro with Enma not fighting against him and once discovered the trick folded him easly.

Lucci didn't do a splendind figure against Gear 5, but the same did Kaido. I don't understand all this Lucci disrespect. He still is one of the men the Navy values the most, right under the admirals, and Oda made him compare himself to Kizaru in this chapter. He has the ability to one-tap a defensive master like Sentomaru, something Kizaru in this chapter could not do.

Am I the one in damage control? Because I rate Lucci above King? Or is it because I am not mad that a fight i was not expecting to happen did not happen? After ZKK, I am not expecting anything too special for Zoro anymore. A fight vs Lucci, who was the top1 rookie genius ever for Cypher-Pol and the top agent of Cp-0 is not looking this bad to me, instead, is something I'm excited for.

We'll see anyway, depending on how the fight goes, we will be able to scale Lucci accordingly.
Lucci couldn't beat a single child Lunarian
 
do you have receipts of claiming that Lucci is stronger than King BEFORE this chapter dropped? If you just came up with this take then you're blatantly in damage control mode.
he say lucci might be stronger not that he is stronger. Although I think AP goes for lucci while defense goes for king. king himself was no normal commender he is yc1+ and low top tier people only low ball him to downplay zoro. They gonna do the same for lucci after zoro low diff him even though he wistanded everything from luffy bar advcoc.
 
he say lucci might be stronger not that he is stronger. Although I think AP goes for lucci while defense goes for king. king himself was no normal commender he is yc1+ and low top tier people only low ball him to downplay zoro. They gonna do the same for lucci after zoro low diff him even though he wistanded everything from luffy bar advcoc.
It seems that there will be no need for Lucci, we already have Zoro fans slandering him enough.
I do agree tho, King better defense Lucci better AP, no doubt about it.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Guys after how Wano went you couldn't seriously hope in a Zoro vs Kizaru match up to happen xd. We must be happy that Zoro is fighting Lucci (and not an ugly VA), and i think he was pretty handsome this chapter! It's great how he is the first to immediately jump in to make sure that the danger stay as far as possible from the rest of his crewmembers, thats exactly what the leader of the pack does. And just like he has with Kizaru, Zoro also has kind of an unfinished business with Lucci too since Water 7.
Wano really broke the spirit of so many Zoribros... This is sad to see...
Just because we were wrong about one thing, plenty of Zoribros are in fear of predicting anything.
Forget about dreaming about something...
If yall think Luffy will do everything, it is time to pack the bags and support Luffy vs Mihawk.
There is no way Zoro will fight the strongest in the world, only Luffy does that. Right?

>We must be happy with Zoro vs Lucci
Why would we be happy about an opponent Zoro could have one-shotted back in pre-TS?
Unless anyone seriously believes that Lucci can be a threat to Zoro, simply calm down and wait it out.
During rooftop, when Zoro fought the Emperors, I said he would end up fighting King.
Who believed me? 3-4 people at best?

Kizaru is not an opponent Luffy can beat, he is a swordsman who are always handled by none other than Zoro.
Saturn is the leader and the guy whose defeat brings more fame than beating Kizaru brings.
Put 2 and 2 together. In case we end up wrong again, so what? Scared of online people calling you out for it? ...

I also think Lucci is stronger than the likes of King, better to not expect an easy fight.
Clone Lucci 100 times, they cannot push King past low dif.
 
Wano really broke the spirit of so many Zoribros... This is sad to see...
Just because we were wrong about one thing, plenty of Zoribros are in fear of predicting anything.
Forget about dreaming about something...
If yall think Luffy will do everything, it is time to pack the bags and support Luffy vs Mihawk.
There is no way Zoro will fight the strongest in the world, only Luffy does that. Right?

>We must be happy with Zoro vs Lucci
Why would we be happy about an opponent Zoro could have one-shotted back in pre-TS?
Unless anyone seriously believes that Lucci can be a threat to Zoro, simply calm down and wait it out.
During rooftop, when Zoro fought the Emperors, I said he would end up fighting King.
Who believed me? 3-4 people at best?

Kizaru is not an opponent Luffy can beat, he is a swordsman who are always handled by none other than Zoro.
Saturn is the leader and the guy whose defeat brings more fame than beating Kizaru brings.
Put 2 and 2 together. In case we end up wrong again, so what? Scared of online people calling you out for it? ...


Clone Lucci 100 times, they cannot push King past low dif.
Its not being afraid of predicting, its learning from experiences.
Nik, explain how downplaying Zoro's opponent will do to Zoro any good. Or are you gonna slander Lucci until he is confirmed 100% of being Zoro's opponent and then stop and start gassing him up? Zoro faced Lucci in pre-ts aswell and it didn't end well, now both are different and much stronger.
Kaido was the strongest, and the build up was there, if Oda wanted to go that way you are talking about, becoming the strongest of all, it would have happened in Wano. Zoro and Kizaru have 1/100 of the build up Zoro vs Kaido had.
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Kizaru is not an opponent Luffy can beat, he is a swordsman who are always handled by none other than Zoro.
Saturn is the leader and the guy whose defeat brings more fame than beating Kizaru brings.
Put 2 and 2 together. In case we end up wrong again, so what? Scared of online people calling you out for it? ...


Clone Lucci 100 times, they cannot push King past low dif.
So your hope is that somehow Zoro one shots Lucci and then he switch match up with Luffy so that he fights Saturn while Zoro takes Kizaru? Does that sound credible to you? I'm afraid the match ups have already being set.
 
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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Its not being afraid of predicting, its learning from experiences.
Nik, explain how downplaying Zoro's opponent will do to Zoro any good. Or are you gonna slander Lucci until he is confirmed 100% of being Zoro's opponent and then stop and start gassing him up? Zoro faced Lucci in pre-ts aswell and it didn't end well, now both are different and much stronger.
Kaido was the strongest, and the build up was there, if Oda wanted to go that way you are talking about, becoming the strongest of all, it would have happened in Wano. Zoro and Kizaru have 1/100 of the build up Zoro vs Kaido had.
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So your hope is that somehow Zoro one shots Lucci and then he switch match up with Luffy so that he fights Saturn while Zoro takes Kizaru? Does that sound credible to you? I'm afraid the match ups have already being set.
What did we learn from Wano? That Oda will drop all the plotlines in future?
Nobody told yall to downplay or hype any guy, whether they fight Zoro or not.
My power scaling of Lucci didnt change just because he shared a panel with Zoro.

Lucci faced pre-TS Luffy in W7 too and it didnt end well. Doesnt change the fact that Lucci would be beaten by Zoro in EL.
Luffy and Kizaru have 0 build-up which is far less than what Zoro and Kizaru have.
I dont even expect Zoro to beat Lucci. Other people can do that, those who dont have anyone better to fight.

We will see soon if the matches are set, if there are any matches on Egghead.
One thing is certain, Lucci cannot do anything vs Zoro.
He isnt even qualified to fight Zoro considering he has no weapons to shield himself with.
 
Lucci faced pre-TS Luffy in W7 too and it didnt end well. Doesnt change the fact that Lucci would be beaten by Zoro in EL.
Luffy and Kizaru have 0 build-up which is far less than what Zoro and Kizaru have.
I dont even expect Zoro to beat Lucci. Other people can do that, those who dont have anyone better to fight.

We will see soon if the matches are set, if there are any matches on Egghead.
One thing is certain, Lucci cannot do anything vs Zoro.
He isnt even qualified to fight Zoro considering he has no weapons to shield himself with.
Why would Oda even go for this set-up if these are not the match-ups he intended to go for, to troll us? Come on...
And Oda barely showed anything of Lucci's arsenal, we don't know yet what Lucci is capable to do with his awakening... as example do you remember what King was able to do with his?
 
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nik87

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Why would Oda even go for this set-up if these are not the match-ups he intended to go for, to troll us? Come on...
And Oda barely showed anything of Lucci's arsenal, we don't know yet what Lucci is capable to do with his awakening... as example do you remember what could King do with his?
There are no fixed match-ups yet. Marines just started invading, nothing is set in stone.
This is no different than Zoro vs Apoo. What was Oda's intent with that one should answer your question about this one...
Oda has shown Lucci's full arsenal back in EL, there is nothing new other than new variation of the same moves.
Lucci is a regular Zoan, there is no special ability from Awakening, just recovery and toughness boost alongside a general stat boost.
King wasnt awakened and he had regular Zoan abilities on top of Ancient stat boost.

Ask yourself, what is the narrative between Luffy and Kizaru...
What is the clash of ideologies of the one who liberates and the one who doesnt think much for himself and just carries out orders?
There is no narrative build-up between Luffy and Kizaru, there is nothing for Luffy to be angry about at him.
However, the Elder that oppresses the world and orders intervention in the fight to eliminate Sun God's return has plenty of things to say.
 
There are no fixed match-ups yet. Marines just started invading, nothing is set in stone.
This is no different than Zoro vs Apoo. What was Oda's intent with that one should answer your question about this one...
Oda has shown Lucci's full arsenal back in EL, there is nothing new other than new variation of the same moves.
Lucci is a regular Zoan, there is no special ability from Awakening, just recovery and toughness boost alongside a general stat boost.
King wasnt awakened and he had regular Zoan abilities on top of Ancient stat boost.

Ask yourself, what is the narrative between Luffy and Kizaru...
What is the clash of ideologies of the one who liberates and the one who doesnt think much for himself and just carries out orders?
There is no narrative build-up between Luffy and Kizaru, there is nothing for Luffy to be angry about at him.
However, the Elder that oppresses the world and orders intervention in the fight to eliminate Sun God's return has plenty of things to say.
Having freedom from decision making and over thinking is a kind of liberty too
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There are no fixed match-ups yet. Marines just started invading, nothing is set in stone.
This is no different than Zoro vs Apoo. What was Oda's intent with that one should answer your question about this one...
But Apoo didn't have a set up, he appeared and got one shott'd in the middle of a chapter.
Ask yourself, what is the narrative between Luffy and Kizaru...
What is the clash of ideologies of the one who liberates and the one who doesnt think much for himself and just carries out orders?
There is no narrative build-up between Luffy and Kizaru, there is nothing for Luffy to be angry about at him.
The narrative between Luffy and Kizaru is the same as always: "freedom golden boy" vs "muh evil government dog". The fact that Kizaru do not care about the ideology and just follows orders is part of the problem, because he is allowing the elders to oppress the world without not even caring about what he is doing.
What would be Zoro reason to fight him? That we believe him to be a swordsman, and also that he was eager to kill Zoro during Sabaody arc, and humiliated him by stepping on his back. But remember what Enel did to Zoro? Stepping on his head? That humiliation was even worse, but Oda never cared about it.

Oda has shown Lucci's full arsenal back in EL, there is nothing new other than new variation of the same moves.
Lucci is a regular Zoan, there is no special ability from Awakening, just recovery and toughness boost alongside a general stat boost.
King wasnt awakened and he had regular Zoan abilities on top of Ancient stat boost.
I know King wasn't awakened I was just doing a bit of trolling to your beloved yonko commander. Ofc he doesn't have an awakening, he is not on Lucci's level :P
I don't think Oda reproposed Lucci for him to fight with same moves and arsenal as he was during EL.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
But Apoo didn't have a set up, he appeared and got one shott'd in the middle of a chapter.
You should re-read Wano then... Zoro and Drake were fighting Apoo for several chapters. Not like Lucci has any build-up with Zoro.

The narrative between Luffy and Kizaru is the same as always: "freedom golden boy" vs "muh evil government dog". The fact that Kizaru do not care about the ideology and just follows orders is part of the problem, because he is allowing the elders to oppress the world without not even caring about what he is doing.
What would be Zoro reason to fight him? That we believe him to be a swordsman, and also that he was eager to kill Zoro during Sabaody arc, and humiliated him by stepping on his back. But remember what Enel did to Zoro? Stepping on his head? That humiliation was even worse, but Oda never cared about it.
There is no clash of ideologies. Kizaru has no agenda, he is a soldier carrying out orders.
The Elder who is creating the WG ideologies is right here at Egghead. If he was supposed to do nothing, he would have stayed in MJ.
Zoro's reason is payback, Kizaru one-shotted him, time to return the favor. Zoro always fights swordsmen, Luffy never does.
Enel was wiping out everyone, this isnt the same what Kizaru was doing - targetting Zoro above all.

I know King wasn't awakened I was just doing a bit of trolling to your beloved yonko commander. Ofc he doesn't have an awakening, he is not on Lucci's level :P
I don't think Oda reproposed Lucci for him to fight with same moves and arsenal as he was during EL.
No amount of Luccis can scratch King. We saw it vs s-Bear. :goyea:
Oda never shows the same villain fight twice.
That makes me think that Lucci wont even be a serious fight for other Strawhats.
 
You should re-read Wano then...
No thank you I'll pass.
Not like Lucci has any build-up with Zoro.
Did King has had any build up with Zoro before their actual fight started? No.
Apoo vs Zoro did not have any set up, it was dragged out unfocused clash until Zoro one shotted Apoo in the middle of a chapter. You can't compare it with Zoro pushing Lucci outside of the building, the two having their exchange of words with Zoro saying Lucci that he is underestimating him, and in this happening the same moment Luffy start clashing with Kizaru. That's a clear set up for the start of a fight.
It's sad because is also a pretty cool moment but you are downplaying it as if what happen in this chapter, or what happens next if Zoro keep fighting Lucci doesnt even matter at all.

Enel was wiping out everyone, this isnt the same what Kizaru was doing - targetting Zoro above all.
It's the same damn thing kekw, Kizaru also was also wiping out everyone, but plus Enel stepped for no reason on Zoro's head, just to amplify the humiliation. Thats the most humiliating moment for Zoro in the story, and I'm still mad at Oda for drawing it.
 
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