Fanclub Temple of The Grandmaster Zoro
Everyone is born with haki. Haki itself is a kind of spiritual/mental energy. Colour of Armaments, Colour of Observation and Colour of the Supreme King are different applications of haki.
It implies that all COC users have spirit, but not that all people in possession of spirit have COC. I think everyone has spirit, and COC is merely a reflection of the user's spiritual energy.
Not really. Suppose there were multiple applications of spirit manifestation, COC would only be one of them. This translation doesn't rule that out. What it says is that all COC is spirit manifestation, but it doesn't say all spirit manifestation is COC.
This is an invalid syllogism due to the scenarios I mentioned above. You're committing a fundamental logical error here. We are told that COC is a subset of spirit manifestation, and you instead inferred that spirit manifestation is a subset of COC. They are not the same thing. All dogs are mammals, but not all mammals are dogs. All applications of COC are instances of spirit manifestation, but this doesn't mean all instances of spirit manifestation are applications of COC.
It implies that all COC users have spirit, but not that all people in possession of spirit have COC. I think everyone has spirit, and COC is merely a reflection of the user's spiritual energy.
Not really. Suppose there were multiple applications of spirit manifestation, COC would only be one of them. This translation doesn't rule that out. What it says is that all COC is spirit manifestation, but it doesn't say all spirit manifestation is COC.
This is an invalid syllogism due to the scenarios I mentioned above. You're committing a fundamental logical error here. We are told that COC is a subset of spirit manifestation, and you instead inferred that spirit manifestation is a subset of COC. They are not the same thing. All dogs are mammals, but not all mammals are dogs. All applications of COC are instances of spirit manifestation, but this doesn't mean all instances of spirit manifestation are applications of COC.
However, based on the second translation the article "the" was used instead of "a"
If "a" was used, then there would be room for multiple types of manifestation of spirit.
With article "the" being used, it shows there is only 1 thing that can manifest spirit which is coc
Let us just wait for the viz/raw panels. It will be able to clear up the confusion. At the moment we would be debating only to find out we are using completely wrong translations.
If "a" was used, then there would be room for multiple types of manifestation of spirit.
With article "the" being used, it shows there is only 1 thing that can manifest spirit which is coc
Let us just wait for the viz/raw panels. It will be able to clear up the confusion. At the moment we would be debating only to find out we are using completely wrong translations.
I can check the Viz translations (they are freely available online), @Den_Den_Mushi could help us with the translations of the raws if anyone has access to them.
This is Zoro-Urashima meeting in the anime:
-Zoro insults Urashima and ask him to step aside
-Urashima responds to Zoro in a rude way
-Zoro glances at him menacingly
-Urashima is intimidated by Zoro and goes away
Actually this is canon material. This is something that happens in the manga too, it's was jus offpaneled:
Why did Oda decide to off panel this meeting and yet put this panel suggesting that Zoro has a weird aura only 2/3 chapters later?
This is really suspicious, isn't it?
My take is: Oda wants to keep the surprise effect for later when the arc is in its crucial stage and at the same time he wants to do some foreshadowing
-Zoro insults Urashima and ask him to step aside
-Urashima responds to Zoro in a rude way
-Zoro glances at him menacingly
-Urashima is intimidated by Zoro and goes away
Actually this is canon material. This is something that happens in the manga too, it's was jus offpaneled:
Why did Oda decide to off panel this meeting and yet put this panel suggesting that Zoro has a weird aura only 2/3 chapters later?
This is really suspicious, isn't it?
My take is: Oda wants to keep the surprise effect for later when the arc is in its crucial stage and at the same time he wants to do some foreshadowing
I don't know, a random guess would be he didn't have space for it or had more important things to draw. Since he mentioned it, I don't think he's trying trying to hide it. But who knows.
Is this also the Mihawk temple? About his next step; I wonder what is the reason for Mihawk's appearance at Roger's execution. He doesn't seem like a man who would go to an execution just for the sake of it. I think this is an important hint, he might have been connected in some way or with his potential ex crew.
Is this also the Mihawk temple? About his next step; I wonder what is the reason for Mihawk's appearance at Roger's execution. He doesn't seem like a man who would go to an execution just for the sake of it. I think this is an important hint, he might have been connected in some way or with his potential ex crew.