Is jinbe gonna witness greatness soon?


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Light D Lamperouge

𝕴𝖓 𝕿𝖍𝖎𝖘 𝖂𝖔𝖗𝖑𝖉 𝕺𝖓𝖑𝖞 𝕴 𝖆𝖒 𝕶𝖎𝖓𝖌
Oda showed us his cards long ago, when kuina lamented the fact her gender prevented her from being a contender for the WSS title.
True. Strong women and One Piece rarely go together. Off the top of my head, BM, Smoothie and Hancock are strong women in OP.

The first is a walking L.
The second was embarrassed by a door, and lacked the intelligence to use a horizontal slash.
The third is fine so far, maybe sending Coby does her wrong.

It seems like a part of Japanese culture.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Big mom and Hancock are top tiers.
Big Mom is a top tier and is repeatedly described as a creature devoid of logic and reasoning. Her being a top tier is despite of her gender. There are no other top tiers besides this natural monster whose gender plays no role. Hancock maxes out at YC1 and that's with much generosity. Smoothie is YC2, and a weak one at that. You have Blackbeard's vixen, who is probably lower YC level.

Oda made it clear that strong women are anomalies in One Piece from Day 1. Don't expect to see much or any.
 

Light D Lamperouge

𝕴𝖓 𝕿𝖍𝖎𝖘 𝖂𝖔𝖗𝖑𝖉 𝕺𝖓𝖑𝖞 𝕴 𝖆𝖒 𝕶𝖎𝖓𝖌
It can't be explained by Japanese culture in my opinion. Bleach didn't suffer from this as much as OP does. BnHA also doesn't suffer from this.
Not every manga is going to do it, some differ. ''As much'' meaning that it does indeed have instances of it, didn't watch it till the end, I don't read/watch MHA, so I don't know about it. Let's check some popular ones. DB/Z/super women were nonexistent, Naruto the same, Kishimoto made Kaguya the final villain, but brain dead, OP you know already, NNT the women are fodder background, besides Diane at some points, heck even Death Note, which I consider a masterpiece, had Misa and Takada only falling in love with Light and him using them, nothing special.
 
Big Mom is a top tier and is repeatedly described as a creature devoid of logic and reasoning. Her being a top tier is despite of her gender. There are no other top tiers besides this natural monster whose gender plays no role. Hancock maxes out at YC1 and that's with much generosity. Smoothie is YC2, and a weak one at that. You have Blackbeard's vixen, who is probably lower YC level.

Oda made it clear that strong women are anomalies in One Piece from Day 1. Don't expect to see much or any.
I personally think Big Mom And Hancock are on similar levels. Why else has Big Mom not earned The Worlds Strongest Women Title . Hancock has a broken fruit, Coc, flowing haki as seen by her little sister being capable. Big mom is definitely not taking someone as prideful as Hancocks soul either that’s a good matchup
 
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Big Mom is a top tier and is repeatedly described as a creature devoid of logic and reasoning. Her being a top tier is despite of her gender. There are no other top tiers besides this natural monster whose gender plays no role. Hancock maxes out at YC1 and that's with much generosity. Smoothie is YC2, and a weak one at that. You have Blackbeard's vixen, who is probably lower YC level.

Oda made it clear that strong women are anomalies in One Piece from Day 1. Don't expect to see much or any.
I don't understand what you are saying. Big Mom was strong from the beginning. But that doesn't have anything to do with her gender.

Hancock used to be a slave who was only able to escape thanks to Fisher Tiger. But she quickly improved herself so much so that even Sengoku, the FA admired her strength.

Clearly, Oda can do it. He doesn't intentionally. He thinks young boys are interested in damsels with curves only (well, he is not wrong). But having one or two strong women wouldn't have hurt, but Oda is dead set.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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I personally think Big Mom And Hancock are on similar levels. Why else has Big Mom not earned The Worlds Strongest Women Title . Hancock has a broken fruit, Coc, flowing haki as seen by her little sister being capable. Big mom is definitely not taking someone as prideful as Hancocks soul either that’s a good matchup
Big Mom downplay or Hancock upplay, either way this is just baffling. I don't think there's anything in the manga to make Hancock look as good as Katakuri besides wishful thinking, and Charlotte Linlin low diffs her intrepid third-born.

That title is meaningless when there's about six women between the Top Tiers and High Tiers of the world. Big Mom, Hancock, Smoothie, Gion, Tsuru, Catarina Devron. Too few participants to make that sound remotely impressive.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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I don't understand what you are saying. Big Mom was strong from the beginning. But that doesn't have anything to do with her gender.

Hancock used to be a slave who was only able to escape thanks to Fisher Tiger. But she quickly improved herself so much so that even Sengoku, the FA admired her strength.

Clearly, Oda can do it. He doesn't intentionally. He thinks young boys are interested in damsels with curves only (well, he is not wrong). But having one or two strong women wouldn't have hurt, but Oda is dead set.
Oda from the get-go has put forth the message that women, in combat, are inferior to men. And looking at the strongest characters in the series, the gender disparity reflects his earlier writing. The few cases we have are outliers. Big Mom as a top tier is due to being a freak of nature and unlike anything else. Hancock/Smoothie are impressive for their strength despite their gender limitations.
 

Cinera

𝐀𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐌𝐚𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐧𝐧𝐲 𝐏𝐞𝐭
I don't understand what you are saying. Big Mom was strong from the beginning. But that doesn't have anything to do with her gender.

Hancock used to be a slave who was only able to escape thanks to Fisher Tiger. But she quickly improved herself so much so that even Sengoku, the FA admired her strength.

Clearly, Oda can do it. He doesn't intentionally. He thinks young boys are interested in damsels with curves only (well, he is not wrong). But having one or two strong women wouldn't have hurt, but Oda is dead set.
He's saying strong women in OP are the exception not the norm.
 
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I personally think Big Mom And Hancock are on similar levels. Why else has Big Mom not earned The Worlds Strongest Women Title . Hancock has a broken fruit, Coc, flowing haki as seen by her little sister being capable. Big mom is definitely not taking someone as prideful as Hancocks soul either that’s a good matchup
Hancock is not Yonkou level. There is no match-up. She would lose to BM
 
Big Mom downplay or Hancock upplay, either way this is just baffling. I don't think there's anything in the manga to make Hancock look as good as Katakuri besides wishful thinking, and Charlotte Linlin low diffs her intrepid third-born.

That title is meaningless when there's about six women between the Top Tiers and High Tiers of the world. Big Mom, Hancock, Smoothie, Gion, Tsuru, Catarina Devron. Too few participants to make that sound remotely impressive.
It’s more of me thinking about how hancocks barely seen but great feats would look like in post timeskip scaling. A fruit that makes her lethal to any man or weapon that doesn’t focus . Coc and flowing barrier haki she would be a monster if given a fight. I say she beats katakuri far easier then luffy did
 
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