Powers & Abilities The actual ultimate thread on swordsmanship - Part 1

This is where you are wrong

there are swordsmen who happened to eat a DF, but it doesn't mean them using DF is swordsmanship
Fujitora doesn't summon meteor with swordsmanship

If you can't do an attack with just a sword and haki, then it's not swordsmanship, it's just DF boosted swordsmanship.
That's like saying footwork isn't part of swordsmanship because footwork isn't an attack. Fighting skill is made up of more than just attacks.
 
That's like saying footwork isn't part of swordsmanship because footwork isn't an attack. Fighting skill is made up of more than just attacks.
Except no?

Footwork is what you were born with.
You weren't born with DF. You aren't born with gravitity powers to bring down meteors. Swordsmanship does not play a role there.

That's like claiming wielding sword while wearing infinity gauntlet that rewrites reality is swordsmanship
 
Except no?

Footwork is what you were born with.
You weren't born with DF. You aren't born with gravitity powers to bring down meteors. Swordsmanship does not play a role there.

That's like claiming wielding sword while wearing infinity gauntlet that rewrites reality is swordsmanship
Clearly you don't understand martial arts.



When it comes to fighting skills, any skill, ability, or power you use to help you become a stronger fighter and beat your opponent is part of your fighting skills. Even something like your ability to reading your opponent attacks is part of your fighting skills.
 
Clearly you don't understand martial arts.



When it comes to fighting skills, any skill, ability, or power you use to help you become a stronger fighter and beat your opponent is part of your fighting skills. Even something like your ability to reading your opponent attacks is part of your fighting skills.
cool cool

that has nothing to do with DFs though, that's just basic human instinct
gravity powers have nothing to do with swordsmanship, he just ate a DF while happened to be a swordsman, so he can fight with both.

Mihawk > Fujitora with no DF
but when Fujitora uses DF then the fight is no longer swordsmanship fight, Mihawk's title goes out of the window. It becomes a fight between a swordsman and a gravity man that happened to know swordsmanship as well
 
cool cool

that has nothing to do with DFs though, that's just basic human instinct
gravity powers have nothing to do with swordsmanship, he just ate a DF while happened to be a swordsman, so he can fight with both.

Mihawk > Fujitora with no DF
but when Fujitora uses DF then the fight is no longer swordsmanship fight, Mihawk's title goes out of the window. It becomes a fight between a swordsman and a gravity man that happened to know swordsmanship as well
Cool, too bad you don't know you're talking about.

Something like footwork and speed is not limited to the swordsmanship. It can be used with any fighting skill but when used with swordsmanship it becomes part of swordsmanship.

Beating someone in a sword fight because you're faster than them is no different than beating them because you gravity to slow them down. In both scenarios you are using powers to help him beat your opponent in a sword fight.

Swordsmanship is defined as skills, ability, and technique used while combat with a sword.
 
Cool, too bad you don't know you're talking about.

Something like footwork and speed is not limited to the swordsmanship. It can be used with any fighting skill but when used with swordsmanship it becomes part of swordsmanship.

Beating someone in a sword fight because you're faster than them is no different than beating them because you gravity to slow them down. In both scenarios you are using powers to help him beat your opponent in a sword fight.

Swordsmanship is defined as skills, ability, and technique used while combat with a sword.
cool cool

still has nothing to do with DFs, so i don't understand your yapping
 
@Rootbeer you still on the advcoc thing? ever since the colors were debunked you should resign these thoughts because sooner or later when the no touch happens you will lose your argument again.

There is no such thing as "no touch advcoc is not part of swordmanship". Since its your headcanon with no proof. just stop it already

in reality the no touch is an actual part of swordmanship with no haki used.. like wtf LOL.. most of Zoro's attacks are no touch with and without haki.
 
@Rootbeer you still on the advcoc thing? ever since the colors were debunked you should resign these thoughts because sooner or later when the no touch happens you will lose your argument again.

There is no such thing as "no touch advcoc is not part of swordmanship". Since its your headcanon with no proof. just stop it already

in reality the no touch is an actual part of swordmanship with no haki used.. like wtf LOL.. most of Zoro's attacks are no touch with and without haki.
Help me understand then.. What's the Sword Skill in AdCoC no touch Clash?.. Versus bare hand AdCoC no touch..

Most Zoro attacks are no touch?.. But air slash comes from the user through the Blade, AdCoC does not go through the Blade..
 
not fucking really lmao

no matter how much you want to try, you can't replicate Fujitora summoning with swordsmanship unless you eat a gravity DF
which makes it a NOT swordsmanship
You still don't get it.

If I beat you because of invisible speed while fighting with sword you don't say swordsmansmith+invisible speed. You just call it swordsmmanship because it's all part of your fighting skills. The fact invisible speed is not a sword slash is irrelevant. Again, swordsmanship is any ability, skill or technique used in combat with a sword. It's the same with df gravity power. If I use it with a sword in combat it becomes part of swordsmanship.

What's the difference between me blocking your attack my sword and kicking you compared to blocking your attack with my sword and hitting you with a meteorite? Other than the obvious, a kick is not the same as a meteorite, there's no difference. In both scenarios I hit you with an attack that wasn't a sword slash. That's all part of swordsmanship.
 
Help me understand then.. What's the Sword Skill in AdCoC no touch Clash?.. Versus bare hand AdCoC no touch..

Most Zoro attacks are no touch?.. But air slash comes from the user through the Blade, AdCoC does not go through the Blade..
The issue is you are trying to dig too deep into it. When in the end there is nothing there. You will see with time how it does not matter just like how it didn't matter with the colors.
 
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