Chapter Discussion The GOAT Enters the Story: Rocks D. Xebec Appreciation Thread
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Roger edging Xebec out by a hair doesn’t make him a much better pirate lmfao. They are close in power no matter how the fight went down.
Roger himself can’t control Xebec’s subordinates. That doesn’t matter, Xebec still managed to lead these folks through the years. He’s that charismatic, and his ambition is far greater than Roger’s. The fact that prime Rocks crew (by itself) is considered a massive threat to the World Government speaks volumes. I believe Xebec when he told us that they would have taken over the world with Harald. Xebec didn’t care about loyalty, he only needed strength to advance his goals. He quite literally beat folks into submission via the Davy Back fights.
It’s not like that the Roger pirates would have beaten them anyways, had Garp and the HKs not been there then Rocks would have decimated.
Roger himself can’t control Xebec’s subordinates. That doesn’t matter, Xebec still managed to lead these folks through the years. He’s that charismatic, and his ambition is far greater than Roger’s. The fact that prime Rocks crew (by itself) is considered a massive threat to the World Government speaks volumes. I believe Xebec when he told us that they would have taken over the world with Harald. Xebec didn’t care about loyalty, he only needed strength to advance his goals. He quite literally beat folks into submission via the Davy Back fights.
It’s not like that the Roger pirates would have beaten them anyways, had Garp and the HKs not been there then Rocks would have decimated.
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You didn't really answer, did you? If the Rocks group was so dysfunctional as you claim and we know that Roger's group had at least 3 heavy hitters with them - why would they need Garp? I have even forgotten about Garling.
You are very wrong if you think Roger will be clearly shown above Rocks - I think the opposite will happen.
Shiki called him a fool, Whitebeard called him dumbass, Big Mom calls him good-for-nothing - that actually sounds more like Luffy's crewmates if anything =>
You are nitpicking to the point you will next say that Rayleigh said Roger to go away when the met first - such disrespect
In all seriousness, yeah, they didn't really care for Rocks. But why were they serving him them? Why didn't they leave? Its actually way more impressive if you think they were scared of Rocks.
Lets not ignore this either =>
You are very wrong if you think Roger will be clearly shown above Rocks - I think the opposite will happen.
Shiki called him a fool, Whitebeard called him dumbass, Big Mom calls him good-for-nothing - that actually sounds more like Luffy's crewmates if anything =>
You are nitpicking to the point you will next say that Rayleigh said Roger to go away when the met first - such disrespect
In all seriousness, yeah, they didn't really care for Rocks. But why were they serving him them? Why didn't they leave? Its actually way more impressive if you think they were scared of Rocks.
Lets not ignore this either =>
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I can't answer because we don't know what happened in God Valley. For all we know, Rocks could have been possessed by Imu, he could have been betrayed by Whitebeard, he could have whatever; we, again, have no idea. Heck, maybe there wasn't even a serious fight but something happened that ended up with Rocks dead.
As I said, we don't know what happened there. What we do know is that Roger is hailed as the conqueror atop conquerors and respected by the likes of Whitebeard, Garp, Shiki, Kaidou... to this day. When Rocks receives such respect instead of consistent disrespect from his own crewmates, then we can talk.
I'm sorry, do the Straw Hats regularly murder each other? Because Rocks Pirates did. Again, don't go against the manga: Sengoku pretty much stated one reason why they've been forgotten is because they were so disfunctional they couldn't leave a legacy as a group.
I'm not nitpicking. Nitpicking is thinking that a Whitebeard who states he isn't Rocks' subordinate after years as his crewmate equals Rayleigh telling a stranger who is annoying him with random things to "go away", which is what Roger was when they first met.
And they weren't scared, they were using Rocks and what he provided. Stussy said it explicitly: his plans could bring benefits. Simple as that.
As I said, we don't know what happened there. What we do know is that Roger is hailed as the conqueror atop conquerors and respected by the likes of Whitebeard, Garp, Shiki, Kaidou... to this day. When Rocks receives such respect instead of consistent disrespect from his own crewmates, then we can talk.
Shiki called him a fool, Whitebeard called him dumbass, Big Mom calls him good-for-nothing - that actually sounds more like Luffy's crewmates if anything =>
You are nitpicking to the point you will next say that Rayleigh said Roger to go away when the met first - such disrespect
In all seriousness, yeah, they didn't really care for Rocks. But why were they serving him them? Why didn't they leave? Its actually way more impressive if you think they were scared of Rocks.
Lets not ignore this either =>
You are nitpicking to the point you will next say that Rayleigh said Roger to go away when the met first - such disrespect
In all seriousness, yeah, they didn't really care for Rocks. But why were they serving him them? Why didn't they leave? Its actually way more impressive if you think they were scared of Rocks.
Lets not ignore this either =>
I'm not nitpicking. Nitpicking is thinking that a Whitebeard who states he isn't Rocks' subordinate after years as his crewmate equals Rayleigh telling a stranger who is annoying him with random things to "go away", which is what Roger was when they first met.
And they weren't scared, they were using Rocks and what he provided. Stussy said it explicitly: his plans could bring benefits. Simple as that.
I thought BB was the best character that is close to real life pirates until i saw his dad.....
Big W for Oda's writing about Xebec character.
This dude starts from zero, he has nothing. He's a no-name solo and infiltrate Mariejoa alone, met Imu and threatened him, kills an Admiral on the way and escape.
Stole a WG ship with prolly a huge amount of money and food in-store, destroy gates of justice and starts his adventure from that........
Would there be any better kick start of your career than these?? And he did all this by himself
He perfectly fill the role of bad guy protagonist in other series
The fact that he could recruit all elite pirates using Davy back fight is a sign that he's multi talented and one of the special breed among special breed.
I hope the way he was defeated at GV is also like MF WB lvl of greatness, well it's just pending it might be even better.
Big W for Oda's writing about Xebec character.
This dude starts from zero, he has nothing. He's a no-name solo and infiltrate Mariejoa alone, met Imu and threatened him, kills an Admiral on the way and escape.
Stole a WG ship with prolly a huge amount of money and food in-store, destroy gates of justice and starts his adventure from that........
Would there be any better kick start of your career than these?? And he did all this by himself
He perfectly fill the role of bad guy protagonist in other series
The fact that he could recruit all elite pirates using Davy back fight is a sign that he's multi talented and one of the special breed among special breed.
I hope the way he was defeated at GV is also like MF WB lvl of greatness, well it's just pending it might be even better.
So many interesting things about this character, his appearance, personality, ambition... he's a combination of what a pirate should be, man, what Oda did with him is really good.
The only interesting thing about Kid is his appearance, unfortunately... he had a lot to show, but Oda doesn't want to disappoint his golden nugget, Shanks.
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The only interesting thing about Kid is his appearance, unfortunately... he had a lot to show, but Oda doesn't want to disappoint his golden nugget, Shanks.
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