Break Week The lack of Mihawk in Kaidou’s vision proofs that he is warlord level ad weaker then Oden and weaker then Shanks

uyuu

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Punpun said:
Why are you so confused?

Shanks losing his arm was a sacrifice for Luffy.

And later we learn about Mihawk and his Title we get to see what that sacrifice implied. He lost his rival, probably someone he was looking forward to surpass or beat. But that goal forever unattainable now.

Now he may have lost more things as well but we know he wasn't looking to become the Pirate King.
But settings Mihawk as Shanks rivel was Oda's way to show he actually did sacrifice something.

But if you say Shanks goal was never to become WSS or too rival Mihawk. Than what was that sacrifice for, why did he just lose his arm. Might as well loose all limbs if doesn't mean anything.

It's not much of sacrifice if nothing is being lost.

So all you Shanks fans who think Mihawk is weaker than him. It wouldn't make any sense narrative wise whatsoever. He sacrifice would be meaningless.
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No i'm not confused about their powerlevel. I have my own powerlevel like you also do. I'm annoyed by the way Oda writes. Thats different. What you're saying about Shanks goal is never to become WSS, thats not my opinion so it doesnt represent my view or each view about Shanks vs Mihawk.

About the narrative standpoint of Shanks sacrifice, its implications etc, its also your own narrative perspective. While others like me or other members can also build one's own perspective of the narrative being portrayed that is opposite of that of yours, especially with Kaidou visualizations from the later chapters. Viewing Oda's profit-oriented vagueness, i'm not among the ones who will delve too deep into feats-hype-portrayal details anymore in order to powerscale, since Oda won't either.
 
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#42
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uyuu said:
No i'm not confused about their powerlevel. I have my own powerlevel like you also do. I'm annoyed by the way Oda writes. Thats different. What you're saying about Shanks goal is never to become WSS, thats not my opinion so it doesnt represent my view or each view about Shanks vs Mihawk.

About the narrative standpoint of Shanks sacrifice, its implications etc, its also your own narrative perspective. While others like me or other members can also build one's own perspective of the narrative being portrayed that is opposite of that of yours, especially with Kaidou visualizations from the later chapters. Viewing Oda's profit-oriented vagueness, i'm not among the ones who will delve too deep into feats-hype-portrayal details anymore in order to powerscale, since Oda won't either.
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Settings aside power levels for the moment.
So what did Shanks loose?
 
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Punpun said:
Settings aside power levels for the moment.
So what did Shanks loose?
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Do you want to talk specifically about the lost arm and its effect about powerlevel? It still depends which aspects do you want me to view it from.

If i take that scene just by the mange panel itself, it's a sign of Shanks being significantly weaker than Mihawk defensively (overall speed-wise or overall reaction-wise).

If i take that scene along with Oda's own statement about the editor saying that the story being not interesting enough to gain readers before Shanks sacrifice his own arm, then it is purely to move the plot forward. Which by its own, does not translate to his powerlevel.

If i take that scene along with every other scene and info comparing Shanks and Mihawk, including the chapter 1001, then we have open-ended match that is deliberately made vague by Oda.
 
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Mihawk is more sideline character keeping low profile for most part and Big mom was alongside kaido , so it makes to some extent why he didn't mention them. Kaido's statement does puts a shade on garp as he saw his strength in god valley. Same for admirals as he was repeatedly getting captured by marines and most likely had confrontation with them at some point.
 
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I wonder how many more times people are going to embarrass themselves with these type of threads because of their own headcannon.

First they claim they were supposed to be only people who could fight Kaido even though Big Mom is missing.

Now they're trying to claim that Blackbeard isn't Yonko level.

Oda says Mihawk is the WSS that means he's stronger than Shanks.

Don't worry, there's going to be more theards talking about how certain characters portrayal are important while others aren't.
 
ImmaIvanoM

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Shiroyru said:
Big Mom was right next to Kaido, so she wouldn’t be included. Dragon’s power is probably not well known by Kaido, or the rest of the world for that matter. Akainu isn’t a threat to Kaido unless Kaido gets a terminal illness and starts getting heart attacks
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You mean the Kaido who said he will be fighting big mom for the one piece soon failed to add her on the list of people who can beat him because she was next to him?

and Akainu with the highest attack power and barrier haki aren’t a threat to Kaido,because??? What?

and since dragon is exempt because Kaido’s never fought him then why are people adding people kaido’s never fought on this list? Like has Kaido fought Mihawk?
 
Jew D. Boy

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I knew the OP was this fuckin’ moron before I even opened the thread... @stealthblack Are you left handed?? Because I’ve never seen you get a single thing right, you total and complete dunce. Oda spends 20 years building Mihawk up as the strongest swordsman in the world, and your whiny little ass thinks a single panel 1000 chapters in totally negates that. You are everything that’s wrong with Sanji fans.
 
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#59
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LuthonTheDragDown said:
You literally make the worst threads on the forum.
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Atleast he's a creator which is much than being a moderator.
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uyuu said:
Do you want to talk specifically about the lost arm and its effect about powerlevel? It still depends which aspects do you want me to view it from.

If i take that scene just by the mange panel itself, it's a sign of Shanks being significantly weaker than Mihawk defensively (overall speed-wise or overall reaction-wise).

If i take that scene along with Oda's own statement about the editor saying that the story being not interesting enough to gain readers before Shanks sacrifice his own arm, then it is purely to move the plot forward. Which by its own, does not translate to his powerlevel.

If i take that scene along with every other scene and info comparing Shanks and Mihawk, including the chapter 1001, then we have open-ended match that is deliberately made vague by Oda.
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You did not answer my question.

What did Shanks loose if not power and his rivalry with Mihawk?

What thing of significant that would classify as being Sacrifice worth for Luffy.
 
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uyuu

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Punpun said:
Atleast he's a creator which is much than being a moderator.
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You did not answer my question.

What did Shanks loose if not power and his rivalry with Mihawk?

What thing of significant that would classify as being Sacrifice worth for Luffy.
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Well Shanks didnt intend sacrifice his rivalry with Mihawk or his powerlevel obviously, the sacrifice was his arm. losing his strength and position as one of the top swordsmen in the world is just an extension/effect of him sacrificing his arm. By the panel itself, sure you can say that sacrificed his arm affected his overall function as a man including powerlevel.
 
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