Character Discussion The One-Chapter Massacre Of Yuta Okkotsu's Portrayal

#1
Before chapter 225, you could (attempt to) argue that Yuta could fight against 15-finger Sukuna and possibly even not get immediately fodderized by Gojo and full-power Sukuna.

Two moments in the chapter contribute to the complete massacre of Yuta's portrayal.

1) First, his main selling point has been deflated, more so than people seem to realize.

To recap, one of the reasons people rated Yuta so highly were vague statements about his crazy CE reserve:

Yuta is stated to have more cursed energy than Gojo at several points in the manga.


He has so much that his cursed energy is called boundless and unlimited.


Now these statements in isolation seem super impressive, however, we were never actually given a concrete measure of his CE reserve.

That was, until Chapter 225.

At first sight, Yuta admits that Sukuna with 19/20 fingers has more than double his CE reserve.


Now this is noteworthy because while Sukuna unlocks new techniques with more fingers, the CE reserve contained by each finger is never implied to vary.

Less than 50% of Sukuna's reserve is around 9-10 fingers of CE, which means that Yuta in raw CE reserve is comparable to Jogo.


So yes, while Yuta's CE reserve is still monstrous for a human and likely the second highest in the story, it's merely relative to that of the disaster curses.


2) The second major reason Yuta's portrayal tanked is his reaction to Sukuna's open domain.

This reaction basically kills any chance of Yuta putting up any fight against 15-finger Sukuna, since Sukuna had the same domain expansion just with 25% less energy.


The reactions give me the same vibe as Kidd's reaction to Luffy using ryou Kaido (another moment where a character's portrayal utterly crashed):


@Seth disingenuously attempted to argue that Yuta's shock is only towards 20-finger Sukuna, but it's clearly towards the domain expansion technique itself, not anything Sukuna currently has that he lacked with 15 fingers.

In conclusion, Yuta has been dramatically overrated and overestimated by the JJK fanbase. Not only is he being portrayed as utter fodder to Gojo and Sukuna, but his status as the third strongest is highly questionable. Claims that he would low diff Kenjaku or even a disaster curse need to be re-examined.

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#2
Before chapter 225, you could (attempt to) argue that Yuta could fight against 15-finger Sukuna and possibly even not get immediately fodderized by Gojo and full-power Sukuna.

Two moments in the chapter contribute to the complete massacre of Yuta's portrayal.

1) First, his main selling point has been deflated, more so than people seem to realize.

To recap, one of the reasons people rated Yuta so highly were vague statements about his crazy CE reserve:

Yuta is stated to have more cursed energy than Gojo at several points in the manga.


He has so much that his cursed energy is called boundless and unlimited.


Now these statements in isolation seem super impressive, however, we were never actually given a concrete measure of his CE reserve.

That was, until Chapter 225.

At first sight, Yuta admits that Sukuna with 19/20 fingers has more than double his CE reserve.


Now this is noteworthy because while Sukuna unlocks new techniques with more fingers, the CE reserve contained by each finger is never implied to vary.

Less than 50% of Sukuna's reserve is around 9-10 fingers of CE, which means that Yuta in raw CE reserve is comparable to Jogo.


So yes, while Yuta's CE reserve is still monstrous for a human and likely the second highest in the story, it's merely relative to that of the disaster curses.


2) The second major reason Yuta portrayal tanked is his reaction to Sukuna's open domain.

This reaction basically kills any chance of Yuta putting up any fight against 15-finger Sukuna, since Sukuna had the same domain expansion just with 25% less energy.


The reactions give me the same vibe as Kidd's reaction to Luffy using ryou Kaido (another moment where a character's portrayal utterly crashed):


@Seth disingenuously attempted to argue that Yuta's shock is only towards 20-finger Sukuna, but it's clearly towards the domain expansion technique itself, not anything Sukuna currently has that he lacked with 15 fingers.

In conclusion, Yuta has been dramatically overrated and overestimated by the JJK fanbase. Not only is he being portrayed as utter fodder to Gojo and Sukuna, but his status as the third strongest is highly questionable. Claims that he would low diff Kenjaku or even a disaster curse need to be re-examined.

@L55 @ConquistadoR @NikaInParis @MonsterKaido @LeMillion1999 @Dark Admiral @LANJI CUCKSMOKE @notAfanboy @Enzo @Reborn @Ven437
Agreed

15 finger Sukuna will fold yuta
 
#5
Before chapter 225, you could (attempt to) argue that Yuta could fight against 15-finger Sukuna and possibly even not get immediately fodderized by Gojo and full-power Sukuna.

Two moments in the chapter contribute to the complete massacre of Yuta's portrayal.

1) First, his main selling point has been deflated, more so than people seem to realize.

To recap, one of the reasons people rated Yuta so highly were vague statements about his crazy CE reserve:

Yuta is stated to have more cursed energy than Gojo at several points in the manga.


He has so much that his cursed energy is called boundless and unlimited.


Now these statements in isolation seem super impressive, however, we were never actually given a concrete measure of his CE reserve.

That was, until Chapter 225.

At first sight, Yuta admits that Sukuna with 19/20 fingers has more than double his CE reserve.


Now this is noteworthy because while Sukuna unlocks new techniques with more fingers, the CE reserve contained by each finger is never implied to vary.

Less than 50% of Sukuna's reserve is around 9-10 fingers of CE, which means that Yuta in raw CE reserve is comparable to Jogo.


So yes, while Yuta's CE reserve is still monstrous for a human and likely the second highest in the story, it's merely relative to that of the disaster curses.


2) The second major reason Yuta's portrayal tanked is his reaction to Sukuna's open domain.

This reaction basically kills any chance of Yuta putting up any fight against 15-finger Sukuna, since Sukuna had the same domain expansion just with 25% less energy.


The reactions give me the same vibe as Kidd's reaction to Luffy using ryou Kaido (another moment where a character's portrayal utterly crashed):


@Seth disingenuously attempted to argue that Yuta's shock is only towards 20-finger Sukuna, but it's clearly towards the domain expansion technique itself, not anything Sukuna currently has that he lacked with 15 fingers.

In conclusion, Yuta has been dramatically overrated and overestimated by the JJK fanbase. Not only is he being portrayed as utter fodder to Gojo and Sukuna, but his status as the third strongest is highly questionable. Claims that he would low diff Kenjaku or even a disaster curse need to be re-examined.

@L55 @ConquistadoR @NikaInParis @MonsterKaido @LeMillion1999 @Dark Admiral @LANJI CUCKSMOKE @notAfanboy @Enzo @Reborn @Ven437
Bro what before 225
Yuta is getting low diffed by even 10 fingers or 5
Sukuna s battle iq and ce efficiency And ability is to much for yuta
Yuta went extreme diffed with ryu who got one shoted speed blitz by sukuna
 

Seth

𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
#6
Before chapter 225, you could (attempt to) argue that Yuta could fight against 15-finger Sukuna and possibly even not get immediately fodderized by Gojo and full-power Sukuna.

Two moments in the chapter contribute to the complete massacre of Yuta's portrayal.

1) First, his main selling point has been deflated, more so than people seem to realize.

To recap, one of the reasons people rated Yuta so highly were vague statements about his crazy CE reserve:

Yuta is stated to have more cursed energy than Gojo at several points in the manga.


He has so much that his cursed energy is called boundless and unlimited.


Now these statements in isolation seem super impressive, however, we were never actually given a concrete measure of his CE reserve.

That was, until Chapter 225.

At first sight, Yuta admits that Sukuna with 19/20 fingers has more than double his CE reserve.


Now this is noteworthy because while Sukuna unlocks new techniques with more fingers, the CE reserve contained by each finger is never implied to vary.

Less than 50% of Sukuna's reserve is around 9-10 fingers of CE, which means that Yuta in raw CE reserve is comparable to Jogo.


So yes, while Yuta's CE reserve is still monstrous for a human and likely the second highest in the story, it's merely relative to that of the disaster curses.


2) The second major reason Yuta's portrayal tanked is his reaction to Sukuna's open domain.

This reaction basically kills any chance of Yuta putting up any fight against 15-finger Sukuna, since Sukuna had the same domain expansion just with 25% less energy.


The reactions give me the same vibe as Kidd's reaction to Luffy using ryou Kaido (another moment where a character's portrayal utterly crashed):


@Seth disingenuously attempted to argue that Yuta's shock is only towards 20-finger Sukuna, but it's clearly towards the domain expansion technique itself, not anything Sukuna currently has that he lacked with 15 fingers.

In conclusion, Yuta has been dramatically overrated and overestimated by the JJK fanbase. Not only is he being portrayed as utter fodder to Gojo and Sukuna, but his status as the third strongest is highly questionable. Claims that he would low diff Kenjaku or even a disaster curse need to be re-examined.

@L55 @ConquistadoR @NikaInParis @MonsterKaido @LeMillion1999 @Dark Admiral @LANJI CUCKSMOKE @notAfanboy @Enzo @Reborn @Ven437
Cringe post from cringe user.

I told you already. Don't power scale. It melts your brain.

20 =/= 15.

Yuta being terrified of Prime 20 Fingers Sukuna is not a big deal.
 
#7
Yuta being comparable to Disaster Curses in CE is literally monkey brain scaling.

Being GENEROUS Kenjaku said Jogo is comparable to 8 fingers in STRENGTH. Not CE reserves.
But that’s ridiculous. Sukuna with 8 fingers would obviously be stronger than Jogo.

Saying Jogo is comparable to 8 fingers in strength instead of CE would imply Jogo has better techniques and CE usage than Sukuna which is canonically bullshit.
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Cringe post from cringe user.

I told you already. Don't power scale. It melts your brain.

20 =/= 15.

Yuta being terrified of Prime 20 Fingers Sukuna is not a big deal.
You can’t do basic algebra apparently.
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Bro what before 225
Yuta is getting low diffed by even 10 fingers or 5
Sukuna s battle iq and ce efficiency And ability is to much for yuta
Yuta went extreme diffed with ryu who got one shoted speed blitz by sukuna
If you’d read the full post I’m now arguing that Yuta ~ Jogo.

That’s how bad his 225 portrayal is.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#8
Before chapter 225, you could (attempt to) argue that Yuta could fight against 15-finger Sukuna and possibly even not get immediately fodderized by Gojo and full-power Sukuna.

Two moments in the chapter contribute to the complete massacre of Yuta's portrayal.

1) First, his main selling point has been deflated, more so than people seem to realize.

To recap, one of the reasons people rated Yuta so highly were vague statements about his crazy CE reserve:

Yuta is stated to have more cursed energy than Gojo at several points in the manga.


He has so much that his cursed energy is called boundless and unlimited.


Now these statements in isolation seem super impressive, however, we were never actually given a concrete measure of his CE reserve.

That was, until Chapter 225.

At first sight, Yuta admits that Sukuna with 19/20 fingers has more than double his CE reserve.


Now this is noteworthy because while Sukuna unlocks new techniques with more fingers, the CE reserve contained by each finger is never implied to vary.

Less than 50% of Sukuna's reserve is around 9-10 fingers of CE, which means that Yuta in raw CE reserve is comparable to Jogo.


So yes, while Yuta's CE reserve is still monstrous for a human and likely the second highest in the story, it's merely relative to that of the disaster curses.


2) The second major reason Yuta's portrayal tanked is his reaction to Sukuna's open domain.

This reaction basically kills any chance of Yuta putting up any fight against 15-finger Sukuna, since Sukuna had the same domain expansion just with 25% less energy.


The reactions give me the same vibe as Kidd's reaction to Luffy using ryou Kaido (another moment where a character's portrayal utterly crashed):


@Seth disingenuously attempted to argue that Yuta's shock is only towards 20-finger Sukuna, but it's clearly towards the domain expansion technique itself, not anything Sukuna currently has that he lacked with 15 fingers.

In conclusion, Yuta has been dramatically overrated and overestimated by the JJK fanbase. Not only is he being portrayed as utter fodder to Gojo and Sukuna, but his status as the third strongest is highly questionable. Claims that he would low diff Kenjaku or even a disaster curse need to be re-examined.

@L55 @ConquistadoR @NikaInParis @MonsterKaido @LeMillion1999 @Dark Admiral @LANJI CUCKSMOKE @notAfanboy @Enzo @Reborn @Ven437
If your output and power in domain is stronger then you can still beat Sukuna domain even with a regular one. Gojo would have overpowered 15 finger Sukuna because inside the domain he would have crushed him.

Having a barrier less domain doesn’t mean auto win against any other domain. The inner domain battle matters a lot too.
 
#9
If your output and power in domain is stronger then you can still beat Sukuna domain even with a regular one. Gojo would have overpowered 15 finger Sukuna because inside the domain he would have crushed him.

Having a barrier less domain doesn’t mean auto win against any other domain. The inner domain battle matters a lot too.
Yuta has worse output, reserve, efficiency, experience, techniques, etc than 10 finger Sukuna let alone 15.

He’s in the same tier as disaster curses just a little above because of his technique superiority.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#10
Sukuna with 8 fingers would obviously be stronger than Jogo.
Yes because Kenjaku was lying to Jogo.

Saying Jogo is comparable to 8 fingers in strength instead of CE would imply Jogo has better techniques and CE usage than Sukuna which is canonically bullshit.
Jogo: How STRONG would i be in terms of Sukuna's fingers?
Kenjaku: Being generous, I'd say 8.

It's literally cut and dry. You're basicallysaying Jogo's not comparable in strength (what Kenjaku said) but comparable in CE alone (what was never said).

And that basically reeks of agenda lmfao
 
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#14
You didn't need to downplay Yuta anymore than he himself did in regards to Sukuna.

Putting Jogo here is just agenda bait, and I'm the biggest Jogo wanker on WG (as the people who debated me will tell you lol)

Yuta already conceded having half of Sukuna's CE pool. Their levels of jujutsu mastery are also, very clearly, in different stratospheres to each other.

But saying Yuta ~ Jogo is now arguable is reactionary reading at best, and agenda at worst.
Where would you put Yuki then? Cmon, Yagi:seriously:
 
#15
You didn't need to downplay Yuta anymore than he himself did in regards to Sukuna.

Putting Jogo here is just agenda bait, and I'm the biggest Jogo wanker on WG (as the people who debated me will tell you lol)

Yuta already conceded having half of Sukuna's CE pool. Their levels of jujutsu mastery are also, very clearly, in different stratospheres to each other.

But saying Yuta ~ Jogo is now arguable is reactionary reading at best, and agenda at worst.
Where would you put Yuki then? Cmon, Yagi:seriously:
All im saying jogo is not going extreme diff wtih ryu
 
#16
Yes because Kenjaku was lying to Jogo.


Jogo: How STRONG would i be in terms of Sukuna's fingers?
Kenjaku: Being generous, I'd say 8.

It's literally cut and dry. You're basicallysaying Jogo's not comparable in strength (what Kenjaku said) but comparable in CE alone (what was never said).

And that basically reeks of agenda lmfao
So you think Jogo has better techniques and CE usage than Sukuna?

Even though we canonically have people calling Sukuna’s CE efficiency god-like?

Even though we canonically have indication that Sukuna with fewer than 8 fingers could defeat Mahoraga.

Saying it’s not in terms of CE reeks of agenda and also blatantly contradicts later statements and evidence.
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You didn't need to downplay Yuta anymore than he himself did in regards to Sukuna.

Putting Jogo here is just agenda bait, and I'm the biggest Jogo wanker on WG (as the people who debated me will tell you lol)

Yuta already conceded having half of Sukuna's CE pool. Their levels of jujutsu mastery are also, very clearly, in different stratospheres to each other.

But saying Yuta ~ Jogo is now arguable is reactionary reading at best, and agenda at worst.
Where would you put Yuki then? Cmon, Yagi:seriously:
You guys really think human sorcerers were better than the strongest modern special grade curses, even though its heavily implied that they got stronger in response to the existence of Gojo.
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All im saying jogo is not going extreme diff wtih ryu
Might even get blitzed by Jogo if their fights with Sukuna indicate anything.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#17
So you think Jogo has better techniques and CE usage than Sukuna?

Even though we canonically have people calling Sukuna’s CE efficiency god-like?

Even though we canonically have indication that Sukuna with fewer than 8 fingers could defeat Mahoraga.

Saying it’s not in terms of CE reeks of agenda and also blatantly contradicts later statements and evidence.
It's all nonsense essentially, because Kenjaku never split that statement into "efficiency", "CE reserve", "Cursed Technique" etc,.
He basically said "Jogo, if i'm being generous you're as strong as 8 Fingers Sukuna".
And odds are that he was bluffing as well.

Anything else is headcanon and not supported.
 
#19
It's all nonsense essentially, because Kenjaku never split that statement into "efficiency", "CE reserve", "Cursed Technique" etc,.
He basically said "Jogo, if i'm being generous you're as strong as 8 Fingers Sukuna".
And odds are that he was bluffing as well.

Anything else is headcanon and not supported.
5 fingers sukuna>yuta
 
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