Current Events The Real Reason WHY Wano´s arc is so hated

#81
Wano is hated for justifiable reasons. It is like Oda took all the bad things from Ennies Lobby and Dressrosa and put them all in Wano. Ennies Lobby had a story to be told, that is Robin, World Government and the Blueprints. Dressrosa at least had interesting characters and a charismatic villain in Doflamingo. What does Wano have? It has no story nor are the characters interesting.
 
#82
It mostly has to do with Zoro and Usopp. Everything falls in between the clearly defined spectrum of characters who get undeserved and unneeded love vs characters who are seen as a joke and are constantly downplayed. In the middle are characters like Kaidou and Luffy

on the Zoro side: Zoro, King, Marco, Kidd

The Usopp side: Usopp, Big Mom, Smoothie, Perspero

In the middle: Luffy, Jack, Kaidou, Law,Nami, Sanji( Basically characters who performed well in the manga but never proper placement)

Some characters by their own merit inspire capability and interest and some characters are forced to be highlighted and have all their drawbacks ignored. While other characters while being perfectly capable are embarrassed at every opportunity. It's as if they are constantly fighting the full power of plot. Usopp for example has explosives and we've seen time after time that explosives are highly capable of damaging people where as Usopp explosive grass is nothing more than fireworks.
 

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#83
It mostly has to do with Zoro and Usopp. Everything falls in between the clearly defined spectrum of characters who get undeserved and unneeded love vs characters who are seen as a joke and are constantly downplayed. In the middle are characters like Kaidou and Luffy

on the Zoro side: Zoro, King, Marco, Kidd

The Usopp side: Usopp, Big Mom, Smoothie, Perspero

In the middle: Luffy, Jack, Kaidou, Law,Nami, Sanji( Basically characters who performed well in the manga but never proper placement)

Some characters by their own merit inspire capability and interest and some characters are forced to be highlighted and have all their drawbacks ignored. While other characters while being perfectly capable are embarrassed at every opportunity. It's as if they are constantly fighting the full power of plot. Usopp for example has explosives and we've seen time after time that explosives are highly capable of damaging people where as Usopp explosive grass is nothing more than fireworks.
wano needs more zoro he is the second most popular character after all
 

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#84
I wouldn’t say Wano’s the boldest arc Oda’s done at all. The boldest arcs Oda’s ever done is the Saobody to Timeskip stretch where he basically ripped up his usual formulas, did something completely different and it pretty much paid off for him in spectacular fashion. WCI I’d even argue is bolder, because it tried something a bit different- not wildly different, it was AP/EL without the fights- but still different.

I don’t think Wano’s especially bold, I think it’s followed the pattern of every big fighting arc (AP, Alabasta, EL, Dressrosa) before it. It’s problems, like Dressrosa before it, can all be boiled down to having too many characters. That I do not consider to be a bold writing choice myself, I think it’s just a poor one.
 
#86
Oda and the editing team are still responsible/accountable for the week to week reception of their series, as the series is weekly be design.
If people aren't getting enough payoff to be satisfied on a weekly basis, then that reflects negatively on the content, pacing, and publishing of the series.
If it sucks cock weekly, then it sucks cock period. If the chapters suck dick to read weekly, then move to ultra jump or some shit and release a triple length chapter once a month or something.
I like some of the ideas wano has, mainly the more subversive subtext, and I still think kaido has great potential as a character but I haven't seen any of it explored further so I have very little good to say about it.
 
#87
Problem with Wano is the lack of consistency. It has some epic chapters and some pretty awful ones. For example i think most fans would agree that the rooftop battle is one piece at its finest. On the other hand there were 3 plotlines that were so bad.
1) conclusion of samurai vs kaido fight, no one died and they werent even that injured. Meaning... no impact to the story at all. The fight could easily be skipped and the plot wouldnt be affected at all.
2) kinemon turning into an adult. Thats like the most irrational thing in the history of the manga. I m kinda surprised no one talks about it.
3) tama turning the enemies into allies. Thats nothing more than lazy writing.

And are some other minor things that shouldnt really happen, like deleting x drake from existence, filling pages with people just running, off screen the conclusion of the second fight between luffy and kaido, kinemon surviving kaido's attack , zoro learning adcoc out out of nowhere, luffy being equal to the strongest being alive( i was expecting a tag team).
 
#92
Wano sucks because there is no actual flow to the arc, especially in Onigashima. It literally feels like you’re reading random events that happen after another but it doesn’t feel organic at all.

Moreover having the Scabbards be the emotional centre of the arc was a retarded decision when we don’t even see their relationship with Oden in the flashback
 
#93
I see more and more people saying that the Wano arc is boring, that Oda is a terrible writer and even that One Piece is now Fairy Tail level. Well, the Wano arc is the first arc I follow weekly, so I don't know what the discussions were like at the time of WCI and Dressrosa, but I have an opinion as to why the Wano arc is being so hated.
The reason the Wano arc is hated is because it's the boldest arc in One Piece. But why the boldest? Because it is the arc that Oda had the most to develop the power level of several characters, the arc that has the most characters to be developed, and above all it is the arc that has the most responsibility to dictate the direction of future events and establish the fate of characters in the series.
Just imagine creating an arc where:
- need to develop the main character of the arc (Zoro)
- needs to develop Wano's country and arc characters
- need to develop the antagonist and his motivations
- need to develop the Beast Pirates, and their power level (especially King and Queen)
- needs to introduce and develop a new and potentially future character straw hat member(Yamato)
- need to develop the scabbards plot
- need to develop Supernovas
- need to develop the role of CP0 and WG in the arc
- need to develop a power up from Luffy to beat Kaido
- need to develop a power up for Kid and Law to beat Big Mom
- need to develop the power ups of the Straw Hats
- need to develop the Straw Hats fights
- need to develop the Supernovas fights
- need to develop Zoro and Sanji's fights (which are the main ones after Luffy)
- need to continue Sanji's storyline with Germa 66
- need to develop Kaido and Big Mom's power level
- need to decide the fate of the two Yonkous in the series
- need to balance the power level of the characters in the arc

Has so many Fucking things. So it's kind of to be expected that an arc, where Oda needs to develop so many plots and sub plots, juggling to work the power level of so many characters is hated, often leaving characters like Usopp and Brook aside, leaving doubts about about the strength of characters like: Why Big Mom doesn't use ACoC against Law and Kid, or if drunk Kaido is a character nerf. Maybe because Wano's arc is so full of stuff, it makes people think that Wano's arc is a disasterclass.
This is my thought , Now for you, what is the reason that Wano is so hated?
One piece are not a fairy tail level
But wano arc are worst than any fairy tail arc
They hyped us for a decade and what did they deliver?
PLOT ARMOR !!
Its Garbage and Lazy !!!
 
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