I mean, it's fine, if reason is not enough, with enough valuable clues to show you that never Mihawk nor Zoro will be the WSM or the strongest not even for one second in the verse, nor the most important plot wise for even one second, then just watch/read the manga, until it ends and see that what you expected never happened, and to come back at me saying you were wrong.
The thing is, as you still don't understand : To be the top tier in the verse, the strongest :
Your people are saying it's either mihawk or akainu.
But to be the strongest you need to have genetics and work : To either be a D or have any feature related to it - COC mostly - AND working hard, with the idea of having your own will, and not submitting to anybody as does Mihawk.
This means, never and ever, those two will be the strongest, or the most relevant in the plot.
This is directly refuting you all, that claim that having a title that nobody cares about, or having a kitchen knife is what matters to be the strongest or the more relevant to the plot.
He isn't linked to the main plot, nor has features that could show it :
No COC, and thus no real will of freedom with the idea of not submitting to any. And everything is linked, because Zoro isn't linked to the void century, all he wants is to beat another non COC user/D/Linked to the void century, and not to have a real dream that is totalitarian in a neutral way : That touchs everything and everyone : Beeing the strongest in the world ; beeing the freest ; beeing the king of all etc.
So, eventually, somebody will come to never let him be the strongest.
He isn't linked to the main plot, nor has features that could show it :
No COC, and thus no real will of freedom with the idea of not submitting to any. And everything is linked, because Zoro isn't linked to the void century, all he wants is to beat another non COC user/D/Linked to the void century, and not to have a real dream that is totalitarian in a neutral way : That touchs everything and everyone : Beeing the strongest in the world ; beeing the freest ; beeing the king of all etc.
So, eventually, somebody will come to never let him be the strongest.
What, you think people linked to void century are gonna do a time travel together to see what happened at that time ? we will get a flashback that's all lol! Or fight together against WG when Luffy's crew will sell potatoes ? no matter what happens, Zoro will be with him, showing his face only for you and also the others SH, you know the people without COC so better buy lots of tissues right now, you will probably need it in the future.
There's no scheme from my own and I can logically believe from most other debaters who put Mihawk and some admirals on the top of the Current Era.
Except for eventual, hypothetical god tiers, there's no ground for not believing that elements like Akainu and Mihawk, one ready to fight off an EoS Luffy, the other hyped and portrayed above a Yonko, are not sitting on top of the world.
I mean we could entertain several discussions on it and the aftermath would never change, because this is the author's will.
The thing is, as you still don't understand : To be the top tier in the verse, the strongest :
Your people are saying it's either mihawk or akainu.
But to be the strongest you need to have genetics and work : To either be a D or have any feature related to it - COC mostly - AND working hard, with the idea of having your own will, and not submitting to anybody as does Mihawk.
This means, never and ever, those two will be the strongest, or the most relevant in the plot.
This is directly refuting you all, that claim that having a title that nobody cares about, or having a kitchen knife is what matters to be the strongest or the more relevant to the plot.
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He isn't linked to the main plot, nor has features that could show it :
No COC, and thus no real will of freedom with the idea of not submitting to any. And everything is linked, because Zoro isn't linked to the void century, all he wants is to beat another non COC user/D/Linked to the void century, and not to have a real dream that is totalitarian in a neutral way : That touchs everything and everyone : Beeing the strongest in the world ; beeing the freest ; beeing the king of all etc.
So, eventually, somebody will come to never let him be the strongest.
Last time I checked Zoro is part of Luffy's crew and his no. 2 and therefore tied to the main plot.
How do you know Zoro won't awaken CoC later on? Furthermore he has already shown in various moments the ability to strike fear and intimidate opponents. CoC doesn't have anything to do with not submitting to anyone.
Kaido, BM, Whitebeard, Shanks and Katakuri were or still are underlings to a Captain.
You're also confusing or mixing themes of being Pirate King and being the strongest in the world when you're talking about being the freest lol.
Last time I checked Zoro is part of Luffy's crew and his no. 2 and therefore tied to the main plot.
How do you know Zoro won't awaken CoC later on? Furthermore he has already shown in various moments the ability to strike fear and intimidate opponents. CoC doesn't have anything to do with not submitting to anyone.
Kaido, BM, Whitebeard, Shanks and Katakuri were or still are underlings to a Captain.
You're also confusing or mixing themes of being Pirate King and being the strongest in the world when you're talking about being the freest lol.
and not to have a real dream that is totalitarian in a neutral way : That touchs everything and everyone :
So, eventually, somebody will come to never let him be the strongest.
The thing is, as you still don't understand : To be the top tier in the verse, the strongest :
Your people are saying it's either mihawk or akainu.
But to be the strongest you need to have genetics and work : To either be a D or have any feature related to it - COC mostly - AND working hard, with the idea of having your own will, and not submitting to anybody as does Mihawk.
This means, never and ever, those two will be the strongest, or the most relevant in the plot.
This is directly refuting you all, that claim that having a title that nobody cares about, or having a kitchen knife is what matters to be the strongest or the more relevant to the plot.
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He isn't linked to the main plot, nor has features that could show it :
No COC, and thus no real will of freedom with the idea of not submitting to any. And everything is linked, because Zoro isn't linked to the void century, all he wants is to beat another non COC user/D/Linked to the void century, and not to have a real dream that is totalitarian in a neutral way : That touchs everything and everyone : Beeing the strongest in the world ; beeing the freest ; beeing the king of all etc.
So, eventually, somebody will come to never let him be the strongest.
You mean the oda that made mihawk wss instead of swordsman shanks? That oda.
I dont have to respect shit. If you go against the manga thats on you. Dont cry cause you get called out on it.
Yeah when it says Worlds strongest swordsman theres many ways of perceiving that isnt it. But god forbid you say hes the strongest swordsman in the world
I can actually see that you don't respect shit.
No one's crying I am just trying to help you with some basic ethics. If someone is going against the manga ( in your opinion) then that's on them why are you so bothered?
And this is not about Mihawk, Shanks, WSS or any other thing in One Piece. it is about respecting other's perspective as simple as that.
personally never believed admirals and mihawk are above all
I believe admiral are == yonkos
people within said groups choose who will win individual based on bias or based on matchup.
tho yonko fandom is not open to that possibility
so perhaps by the end of this arc we get some more clarity
one things is for certain
they werent as any people who held this opinion 7-8 years ago as there are now.
the more involved yonkos are in the story, the less mystery around them
the more vulnerable they look .
Latakuri having CoC and can’t grow himself out of old habits, too afraid to grow as a person. Katakuri is a legit scared and terrified human being, scared of what others will think, scared to venture out, scared to do anything lol
Sakzauki is the only antagonist in the entire series directly responsible for one of the main character's family members/closest friends.
When Jinbei told Luffy of the changes in the new era, he showed little to no reaction on Blackbeard becoming a Yonko, but was visibily sweating and grabbing his chest when Jinbei mentioned Sakazuki becoming fleet admiral. Luffy might even have a psychological weakness to Sakazuki.
Saying Luffy and Sakazuki won't even have a serious encounter in the post time skip is ridiculous.
And what is ambition, will, if not embodied by the Will of those who inherited it, as said multiple times in the Manga, because of their very blood link to the void century?
ambition is not inherited. willpower may be. and dreams are something a character gets bestowed upon them or chooses for themselves.
void century has nothing to do with ambition.
following a dream does not require ties to something. not a group, not an event and certainly not other characters.
Mihawk seeks to find worthy opponents. he wants to make sure that he really has becomes the strongest or that he still is. he strives for perfection. that is ambition.
Don't you think that luffy is also somehow determined to be the "king" of pirates, and thus ask freedom, verily because he is subconsiously fulfilling the will of his people, of his blood ? A blood that was killed, humiliated, to not let them be free, and act with goodness ? But, the truth came back, and the falsehood disappeared, because the falsehood is destined to disappear.
And that Shanks of the same blood, noticed it, and gived him the circumstances to be what he wanted to.
bloodline is only important for the overarching story of D. vs WG. its irrelevant otherwise.
WB - not a D. - was on Rogers - a D. - level.
there are many people pursuing PK title. most of them are not D.s.
it may be true that willpower is a heriditary trait. which is not surprising. though I would say it is more of an educational thing. its a learned trait. this has nothing to do with D.s though. its a "heriditary" trait for anyones family. see BM and Katakuri for example. CoC passed down to none D.s.
But no, a black kitchen knife dude, without anyone following him, without COC, who was and is a "dog" of the "dog" of the government : You said it well : Beeing a dog, means you have no will, that's what Admirals, SSBK,
followers are not required for Mihawks ambition. in fact, they would serve no purpose whatsoever.
CoC is also not a requirement for what Mihawk is doing. from what we know so far is useless to him.
Mihawk is not a dog lol. he only follows the Marines summons when they present him with a worthwhile oppotunity to test his skills. they did not even expect him to heed their call. then, the moment he lost interest in the battle he just strolled off. very obedient indeed.
that's what Admirals, SSBK, Mihawk are, and that's why they are wanked by those who are puppets without perspective in life, in this very forum, to cope with their lifes.
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