Questions & Mysteries The subconscious scheme of those who are putting admirals and Mihawk above all

garciajulieen

garciajulieen

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#182
#182
TheAncientCenturion said:
@HA001 stop telling people to Stfu, it comes off as way too aggressive and makes people not wanna talk to you
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This is actually the reason why I stop commenting in this forum for a while. It seems like there are more toxic post than healthy debate. And I can see a lot of people here are actually enjoy bullying others more than discussing the manga itself.
 
Orojackson Refugee

Orojackson Refugee

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#184
#184
zaman said:
It's actually pretty simple :
Does any of these have COC ? NO
Does any COC user have a black knife ? NO
Can anybody argue that Roger was weaker than Mihawk because he didn't care about having a black kitchen knife ? Lol...

They are trying to hype Mihawk for example, for its black kitchen knife, as it was the key to be the strongest in the verse, while, none of the real, strongest in the verse had a dark weapon : WB, Roger, Shanks, Raylegh, Oden.

In this chapter we had the confirmation that Oden was close to beat kaido, who is top 3 in the current verse, and yet we have this group of individual putting Oden lower than lots of those in the current verse, to cope with their genetic irrelevancy.

When, whatever you do, your fate is stopping you to reach the top of the top, because your blood is irrelevant, you have to find a cope, to put those who are in the same situation than you, no matter if it's a fiction, in the highest position, by illusioning yourself and the others.

Is it a coincidence, that Garp, despite not beeing an admiral, was stronger than them all, from the beginning to the end ? Was it a coincidence that he is a D, and linked to the void century, and not any of them are/were?

Was it a coincidence that young shanks was a nobody, and struggled against mihawk, and then his capability of beeing genetically relevant to the plot, hit up, and he became a yonko, while Mihawk stayed a non relevant individual in the plot ?
Was it a coincidence that Mihawk was fascinated so much by an individual that was in the time far weaker than him, luffy, because he showcased a feature linked to his genetic relevancy, that can't ever dream to have, a genetically irrelevant individual like Mihawk, aka the ability to make friends everywhere by his mere aura?
Is it a coincidence that none of these individuals have COC, be it Mihawk, or the admirals ? No, because verily COC is a trait of those who are bloodly linked to the void century, directly, and thus to the EOS plot, and this means the real plot.

There is a single argument to show how yonko are stronger than admirals - at least the current ones - among lots of others :
They all have COC/are D.
While none of the admirals have it. And will be irrelevant to the plot, as they always were, since they are dogs of those who are linked to the void century, aka the 5 stars, and Imu.
It's funny to imagine one second that Akainu will be luffy EOS opponent, because of that, and of the fact that luffy is due to it, currently admiral tier, and will overpass it by the end of the arc.

Tl:Dr, everything is linked from those who do as such : They try to cope with their genetic irrelevancy, by "wanking" those who are like them, genetically irrelevant to the plot, despite beeing the hardest workers, meaning, whatever you do, there is a limit to your power that you can't bypass when you are genetically relevant to the plot. The funniest part is that it's subconscious.Well it's actually sad, if you think about it.

Even Oda needed to find a cope - for himself too -to help them to cope with their cope. We can name a few :
Black knife
WSS - while nobody beside a non genetically relevant individual aims for it.

@Fujishiro @Seraphoenix @Red Admiral @Kaido D. Stronger @Zara @Tejas
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TL;DR OP is crying and hating on mihawk
 
Gensui Sazid

Gensui Sazid

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#187
#187
LANJI CUCKSMOKE said:
personally never believed admirals and mihawk are above all
I believe admiral are == yonkos
people within said groups choose who will win individual based on bias or based on matchup.

tho yonko fandom is not open to that possibility
so perhaps by the end of this arc we get some more clarity
one things is for certain
they werent as any people who held this opinion 7-8 years ago as there are now.
the more involved yonkos are in the story, the less mystery around them
the more vulnerable they look .
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this thread screams of insecurity and deflection:ihaha:
would be the same if Zoro/Sanji/A/B/C fans starts making thread after thread defending their idols and attacking the opposition whenever their fav looked bad and took what the fandom calls a "L" :hapnoel:

it shows that they feel threatened with what happened with their fav in the chapter and they needs to be heard to convince themselves and the crowd(especially themselves) AND that all is not lost yet and how the "L" is actually a good thing. So they proceed to write college paper on it with one of the best known scientific theory to mankind, Mental Gymnastic :risicheck:.
 
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wereng99

wereng99

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#191
#191
WesMidnight said:
In his era he made the Roger level Garp need to train his mountain busting capacities to low diff him, so yes he was.
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Well fair point, but imho that garp just being comedic, and I'm not garp downplayer in fact I'm garp wanker..

Just think there's no way someone who make the likes of garp train to defeat him falling so low to te point him being irrelevant.
 
Zowo

Zowo

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#192
#192
XGoldrogeRX said:
some dumbass even say zoro will be stronger than oden after wano. what a joke
oden was a man who tamed new world alongside roger and rayleigh. he fight all bigshots include kaido. stongest wano samurai that reputation known till kind like akainu sengoku and roger's ears


where zoro at this point? fight gifters, pleasures and team up with drake against non tobiroppo enemy. he couldnt even compete with sanji in bounty. when 18 yrs old oden mastered enma and been holding enma for 22 years but zoro just acquired it and ppl think he already equal to oden. lmfao.

sometimes i wonder how these clowns thinking like that.
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zoro fighting 2 yonko :gokulaugh:
 
Rocks D. Xebec

Rocks D. Xebec

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#193
#193
zaman said:
It's actually pretty simple :
Does any of these have COC ? NO
Does any COC user have a black knife ? NO
Can anybody argue that Roger was weaker than Mihawk because he didn't care about having a black kitchen knife ? Lol...

They are trying to hype Mihawk for example, for its black kitchen knife, as it was the key to be the strongest in the verse, while, none of the real, strongest in the verse had a dark weapon : WB, Roger, Shanks, Raylegh, Oden.

In this chapter we had the confirmation that Oden was close to beat kaido, who is top 3 in the current verse, and yet we have this group of individual putting Oden lower than lots of those in the current verse, to cope with their genetic irrelevancy.

When, whatever you do, your fate is stopping you to reach the top of the top, because your blood is irrelevant, you have to find a cope, to put those who are in the same situation than you, no matter if it's a fiction, in the highest position, by illusioning yourself and the others.

Is it a coincidence, that Garp, despite not beeing an admiral, was stronger than them all, from the beginning to the end ? Was it a coincidence that he is a D, and linked to the void century, and not any of them are/were?

Was it a coincidence that young shanks was a nobody, and struggled against mihawk, and then his capability of beeing genetically relevant to the plot, hit up, and he became a yonko, while Mihawk stayed a non relevant individual in the plot ?
Was it a coincidence that Mihawk was fascinated so much by an individual that was in the time far weaker than him, luffy, because he showcased a feature linked to his genetic relevancy, that can't ever dream to have, a genetically irrelevant individual like Mihawk, aka the ability to make friends everywhere by his mere aura?
Is it a coincidence that none of these individuals have COC, be it Mihawk, or the admirals ? No, because verily COC is a trait of those who are bloodly linked to the void century, directly, and thus to the EOS plot, and this means the real plot.

There is a single argument to show how yonko are stronger than admirals - at least the current ones - among lots of others :
They all have COC/are D.
While none of the admirals have it. And will be irrelevant to the plot, as they always were, since they are dogs of those who are linked to the void century, aka the 5 stars, and Imu.
It's funny to imagine one second that Akainu will be luffy EOS opponent, because of that, and of the fact that luffy is due to it, currently admiral tier, and will overpass it by the end of the arc.

Tl:Dr, everything is linked from those who do as such : They try to cope with their genetic irrelevancy, by "wanking" those who are like them, genetically irrelevant to the plot, despite beeing the hardest workers, meaning, whatever you do, there is a limit to your power that you can't bypass when you are genetically relevant to the plot. The funniest part is that it's subconscious.Well it's actually sad, if you think about it.

Even Oda needed to find a cope - for himself too -to help them to cope with their cope. We can name a few :
Black knife
WSS - while nobody beside a non genetically relevant individual aims for it.

@Fujishiro @Seraphoenix @Red Admiral @Kaido D. Stronger @Zara @Tejas
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"genetic irrelevancy"
Oda is out here creating eugenicists with his pirate manga. :ihaha:
 
Tejas

Tejas

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#194
#194
The common defect of AdmiraLs and ShiTchibukai is they are subservient to a higher authority unlike the Yonko, who are makers and masters of their own destiny and hence are at the pinnacle of power. So
Yonko > AdmiraLs is clear as there is nothing to restrict their freedom in the issue of growth. They are free to challenge and fight against anyone thus their abilities and haki improve a lot since haki blooms in extreme conditions.
 
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Haoshoku

#198
#198
Sengoku was confirmed to have CoC. Garp also has it by simple logical deduction. A case could then be made for Akainu and Mihawk also having it considering they check off the boxes.

Having CoC isn’t that special the higher the ladder you climb with Chinjao saying there are “countless” Conquerors in the New World:
Mihawk and Akainu having this isn’t changing much.

And as for being a D, well its obvious Blackbeard is primed to be the biggest threat to the world since Rocks. Can’t say the same for any other Yonko. So what’s the argument really?

These are flimsy points that can easily be dismissed, as expected from many Yonko > Admiral threads. The reality is that the Yonko aren’t as strong as some of yall think.
 
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Jo_Ndule

#199
#199
Top tier with CoC > top tier without CoC (
Especially if you are a pirate. Unless you are a D. And you might have a case a bit.

If both have CoC then you judge their stats and Hype/titles

If both lack CoC, you judge their stats and hype

PK > Yonko (PK is the strongest conqueror among Great Pirates)
Yonko > Pirates
Oden & Katakuri > Commanders (Ace didn't reach his prime)
Doffy > Warlords (since Hancock isn't at her peak yet)
Luffy & Kidd > SNs
Sengoku & Garp> Marines
Oden > Samurais
Dragon > Revos

Based on CoC alone.
 
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