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I understand what you're saying. But every character has his own stats, in some way. The endurance feat against S-shark it's because Sanji has abnormal defence right now. I don't think it has anything to do it with CoC (or "power of love", even if Sanji mentioned it. Because I always thought that in that case the power of love it comes from Sora, her mother and what she did)

For the stopping lasers with kicks, yeah if it's something anyone can do with CoC it would be disappointing. But again, I think it is something that was exclusive to Sanji alone, and maybe he did it thanks to his exoskeleton (we have to remember the eyebrow was reversed in that occasion) or "power of love" as you say. But again it would be a let down if every CoC user can do it, I admit it too.
Sanji was also supposed to be Stealth Black, what happened on Egghead is most likely related to that. Being invisible means light doesn't interact with your body, after Sora's drug Sanji might have gone the opposite way: light interacts too strongly with his body
The only explicit PoL feat on Egghead was Sanji kicking the laser.


He invokes PoL when he no-sells S-Shark, but I think he's saying that in reference to Germa abilities.


It is possible Sanji's laser-nullification abilities are tied to Germa gene modifications.
Come on famalam the S-Shark feat is clearly being alluded to PoL otherwise Sanji won't have mentioned it.
Moroever Exo is a dura buff. Sanji showed way more than durability here. Would've been one thing if he just got sent flying and then got up like nothing happened. Coz someone is durable doesn't mean they can't get kicked around even more so when the attacker in question is a fishman with a skewed strength stat and fishman karate. Not to mention he's half lunarian(i.e. King was kicking Zoro around during their fight). Sanji took the full force of that with his hands crossed and didn't move an inch :risisweat:

Sanjis unique abilities all being linked to CoC would be pretty lame imo

I like the idea of PoL existing, but I also like the idea that it’s a defensive ability in nature as it seems to activate when Sanjis protecting others.
I see what you're saying with regards to the protecting someone bit but that's too much of a nerf imo and doesn't really make it useful in 1 v 1 combat so I really hope not. I don't think you guys have really grasped the potential of PoL yet. It is basically G5 in that what Sanji can do is only limited by his thoughts. In which case, Sanji could potentially conjure flames that should be scientifcally impossible to conjure. He's already gone from red -> blue which is the hottest you can really get scienfically. Something like amatersasu would not be possible without PoL. Whereas if it's just a CoC buff yh it could be black, but it'd simply be stronger AP, it won't really give Sanji's flames a characteristic like not being able to be put out for example.
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Also on the S-Shark feat, if y'all think it's an exo ting then you are basically saying it can be replicated by Sanji's brothers and Reiju.
 
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Come on famalam the S-Shark feat is clearly being alluded to PoL otherwise Sanji won't have mentioned it.
Moroever Exo is a dura buff. Sanji showed way more than durability here. Would've been one thing if he just got sent flying and then got up like nothing happened. Coz someone is durable doesn't mean they can't get kicked around even more so when the attacker in question is a fishman with a skewed strength stat and fishman karate. Not to mention he's half lunarian(i.e. King was kicking Zoro around during their fight). Sanji took the full force of that with his hands crossed and didn't move an inch :risisweat:


I see what you're saying with regards to the protecting someone bit but that's too much of a nerf imo and doesn't really make it useful in 1 v 1 combat so I really hope not. I don't think you guys have really grasped the potential of PoL yet. It is basically G5 in that what Sanji can do is only limited by his thoughts. In which case, Sanji could potentially conjure flames that should be scientifcally impossible to conjure. He's already gone from red -> blue which is the hottest you can really get scienfically. Something like amatersasu would not be possible without PoL. Whereas if it's just a CoC buff yh it could be black, but it'd simply be stronger AP, it won't really give Sanji's flames a characteristic like not being able to be put out for example.
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Also on the S-Shark feat, if y'all think it's an exo ting then you are basically saying it can be replicated by Sanji's brothers and Reiju.
I really have no issue with PoL being an entire new power level system genuinely. I just don’t personally see oda complicating his manga much to implement it that way.

As of now I feel like there’s bound to be more hints about it once we learn more about DJ. What it is in Sanjis DNA that allows it and Why it manifests in fire.
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
I really have no issue with PoL being an entire new power level system genuinely. I just don’t personally see oda complicating his manga much to implement it that way.

As of now I feel like there’s bound to be more hints about it once we learn more about DJ. What it is in Sanjis DNA that allows it and Why it manifests in fire.
When i grt home, i will have something to say about PoL.
Back to gym
 
I really have no issue with PoL being an entire new power level system genuinely. I just don’t personally see oda complicating his manga much to implement it that way.

As of now I feel like there’s bound to be more hints about it once we learn more about DJ. What it is in Sanjis DNA that allows it and Why it manifests in fire.
I don't really view it as a power system though.
It is simply a characteristic ability of an ancient race.
Kinda like King's invulnerability and flame conjuring abilities are characteristic of the Lunarians, PoL is characteristic of the Buccaneers.
I don't believe Garp is a PoL user for instance as he isn't a Buccaneer same with Scopper. However Garp could be familiar with the ability and simply trying to mimic it with Haki. Could also be that Garp's fist of love is simply a figure of speech. In Sanji's case however, he can already conjure flames like the Lunarians and now he has an ability of the Buccaneers so it's most likely related to whatever Sora did to interfere with Judge's lineage factor.

I alluded to this in my theory about Sanji awakening his gene modifications years back but Sanji and his brothers are most likely based on the story of the ugly duckling with Sanji being what was perceived to be an ugly duckling that later turned out to be a swan. Even if Sanji's awakened his genetic modifications, narrative-wise Judge cannot win so Sanji's going to have to become an existence that is beyond what Judge was capable of creating and we are already seeing signs of that with Sanji being able to switch in and out of exo-mode and being able to retain his emotions regardless of the buffs he got however he still hasn't beaten judge yet (Sora did but not Sanji). From our's and Sanji's perspective, it's a relief that Judge's experiments didn't turn him into an emotionless soldier but from Judge's perspective, he'd probably consider Sanji weaker in theory than his siblings due to having 1.) emotions and 2.) not being in super soldier mode 24/7.
Power of Love I think is what is gonna allow Sanji completely shit on Judge's ideals. He's already becoming an existence that is capable of what his brothers can do and far more.

I don't think Oda giving Sanji abilties from the ancient races is a coincidence.
He's been likened to King on Wano and then albeit not explicitly Kuma as well on Egghead. So Oda's defo cooking up something here imo.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Hypetooled by Vergo, Doffy, FUCKING DAIFUKU, FREAKING COULDNT DODGE SOME RANDOM YU GUY.
PH and Dressrosa were especially bad because those were the arcs where Law started to steal a lot of the SHs spotlight as well.
Sanji kicks Vergo to the wall. Vergo gets MILDLY irritated at Sanji, goes for him, Sanji gets a crack on his leg (but but but explosion nerf). THey keep fighting, Sanji kicks Vergo again, smoke comes, fight gets interrupted. Later, sanji feels his leg hurt and monologues to himself that things could have gone bad if he had kept fighting Vergo.
Vergo later has actually a bamboo staff that he never pulled against Sanji, and also a full body CoA version where he's at his strongest, which he also didnt pull against Sanji.
Bad signal. The "redemption" is that Vergo was stated as being EXTREMELY powerful in CoA. So it's a given that trading blows with him was always gonna be bad for Sanji. We were in the era of "my haki is better than your haki" fights. There was no deep to it at all.

Dressrosa? Gets complimented by Doffy, doesn't get a single hit in, gets parasyted. The counterattack against BM's ship later is very cool, dont get me wrong, but bad showing against Doffy.

Zou? nothing happened.
WCI? First, I love WCI. It's a great arc. But, being so starved for a decent Sanji 1v1 didnt help me at the time at all. He blitzes Oven once (not a one shot, he just sends oven flying and oven is back up immediately), fails to repel daifuku during the wedding. Okay scene stopping big mom's attack alongside Luffy. During the rescue, well, one could say that fighting almost the entire BM family was nothing anyone could do and he does manage to repel daifuku later above the ships.
But no 1v1.

Wano? Now we are slowly, but surely, going back to track.
- Uses Page One as training dummy.
- Saves the girls from Hawkins and Drake.
- The Black Maria thing, Oda sneakily makes Sanji fodderize BM's male underlings and makes Sanji tank BM's attacks for a long time. Sneak, but actually good shit right there, considering Sanji's inability to pull up his CoA otherwise it would hurt BM.
- Queen fight starts. Sanji has a good show against Queen, but gets surprised and caught by the snake move. Exoskeleton kicks in. Sanji gets a durability boost and some regen. yay. Fight continues, Queen gets hurt, but it's not near enough to take him down. Sanji then combines all his tools and enhances his flames for Ifrit. Queen gets DEMOLISHED from it. Hits 1Billion bounty. Good shit.

Now try to remember how long all of this took.
TEN FUCKING YEARS.
Also dont forget that FI/PH was when Oda went 200% overboard with the pervert gag.
See what I mean?
I got ya but this is why Zoro FC is different from us.

They stand with Zoro regardless of what happens. They don't just wank....they stand with their favorites even when there is absence of feats or some bad showing. They will twist every interpretation to support Zoro. That's loyalty.


Whereas we are divided. We support Sanji only when he gets good feat.

I blame leadership of the fc - rayan and doggo.

We need new Commander and Vice commander to lead us even during the darkest hours.


I nominate myself as Vice commander under the commander Rumble or Puck the Great or Sir Yasheen to Make Sanji FC Great Again:getnappaed:


Revolution begin from within by overthrowing frauds - to take our rightful former glory
 
I got ya but this is why Zoro FC is different from us.

They stand with Zoro regardless of what happens. They don't just wank....they stand with their favorites even when there is absence of feats or some bad showing. They will twist every interpretation to support Zoro. That's loyalty.


Whereas we are divided. We support Sanji only when he gets good feat.

I blame leadership of the fc - rayan and doggo.

We need new Commander and Vice commander to lead us even during the darkest hours.


I nominate myself as Vice commander under the commander Rumble or Puck the Great or Sir Yasheen to Make Sanji FC Great Again:getnappaed:


Revolution begin from within by overthrowing frauds - to take our rightful former glory
So the difference is that we aren't D1 bullshitters?. :suresure:
 
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