Future Events The war will continue to Wano mainland

[Buusatan94]

I think the idea comes from the fact that Kaido didn't even try when he knocked Luffy out in one hit, while Luffy truly tried to hurt him.

Yes, Luffy now has the power to damage Kaido internally, but we have yet to see any remote idea of Kaido even remotely getting serious. What happens when Luffy damages Kaido? What happens when Kaido gets serious? Luffy has been pretty overconfident with this one and I almost expect him to lose at least one more time because of it.

Yes this isn't Zoro vs Mr 1, Luffy being able of hurting Kaido for real will surely not be enough to win the second round, Kaido will just get angrier and reveals his true power and beat him again similar to Crocodile and Katakuri the second time they faced Luffy.
As the proverb says a wounded beast is only more dangerous.

 

[Master OF Haki]

5. O-Tama and O-Lin and the memory loss has to have some payoff.

God no, please no, no, no, please God no, fack no. 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

 

[Buusatan94]

5. O-Tama and O-Lin and the memory loss has to have some payoff.

Knowing Oda and the twists he put BM through I am pretty sure he will do another great absurd plot twist with her sadly.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

There were 3 rounds against Katakuri, not 2. And Kaido is a Yonko just as Crocodile was the first warlord who fought Luffy and even if the alliance manages to hurt him it will surely not be enough to defeat him similar to how Luffy learning on how to hurt Crocodile and Katakuri was not enough the second time he fought them.

When was the third round against kata? First one was before he ran out of G4, and the second is when he came back until he wins.
Or maybe you consider the merienda a break, I don't personally, it happens in the same chapter and at the same place.
The scenario is more like enies lobby.
Kaido has no goal, if he defeats luffy, he kills him.

Luffy won't run away. Nobody will. They said it's win or die.

 

[Buusatan94]

When was the third round against kata? First one was before he ran out of G4, and the second is when he came back until he wins.
Or maybe you consider the merienda a break, I don't personally, it happens in the same chapter and at the same place.
The scenario is more like enies lobby.
Kaido has no goal, if he defeats luffy, he kills him.

Luffy won't run away. Nobody will. They said it's win or die.

I consider that the first one was before the merienda and the second one the one that happened after and when Luffy managed to hit Katakuri for the first time before Katakuri regot the edge. The third one was after Luffy returned in the Mirror World.
And I don't see Onigashima as an Enies Lobby scenario. If Oda was able of making Luffy survive his second rounds against Crocodile and Katakuri through sheer plot armor and luck he is perfectly able of doing the same with Kaido.

 

[Paperchampion23]

I just stress that Kaido beat Luffy without even trying in his "human" form. Then you have to account for him just getting serious in his human form, his unknown hybrid form, then the fact that he may finally show us what an Awakening Zoan truly looks like (save for the weird Impel Down versions, I don't expect Kaido to have boogars coming out of his nose and star shaped eyes).

 

[januarysdaughter]

Croc is the only one who got 3 rounds actually and the raid on onigashima looks more like enies lobby scenario than Alabasta.

Oh my gosh, I thought I was the only one that was thinking that. It really does feel like Enies Lobby. The biggest reason to me that the battle, once it starts, can't just be stopped and reworked like Luffy vs Crocodile is because of one thing:

Momo.

Momo is currently being held hostage. No, Kaido said not to kill him because he has questions for him, but that doesn't mean Kaido won't just shrug and let Orochi do with Momo what he wants once he does or doesn't get the answers he wants - and knowing Orochi, Momo would be dead in a second.

Just like they wouldn't be able to rescue Robin had the initial raid on Enies Lobby failed.

The other thing is the method of how they got there. The Rocket Man train was an out of control machine that couldn't stop until it crashed. They had to get back to Water 7 another way.

No, the Sunny, Polar Tang and Victoria Punk haven't been sunk, but the other ships were. There is no going back here.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

I consider that the first one was before the merienda and the second one the one that happened after and when Luffy managed to hit Katakuri for the first time before Katakuri regot the edge. The third one was after Luffy returned in the Mirror World.
And I don't see Onigashima as an Enies Lobby scenario. If Oda was able of making Luffy survive his second rounds against Crocodile and Katakuri through sheer plot armor and luck he is perfectly able of doing the same with Kaido.

How are they going back to the mainland? They don't want to run away and there are no boat left, not enough at least. That's the real issue.
They will fight to the death. Luffy won't run away either.
And croc left the place and had some stuff to do after he thought he finished luffy, kaido ain't leaving the place, he will destroy anybody, they're not escaping if he is still up. Big mom also wants luffy dead.

For me they have to win, there is no possible escape.

What I can concede is that after a brief clash with kaido, their fight is interrupted by something, or kaido sent him flying and he has to fight his way to kaido again like what happened with Doffy.

But they will win in onigashima.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Oh my gosh, I thought I was the only one that was thinking that. It really does feel like Enies Lobby. The biggest reason to me that the battle, once it starts, can't just be stopped and reworked like Luffy vs Crocodile is because of one thing:

Momo.

Momo is currently being held hostage. No, Kaido said not to kill him because he has questions for him, but that doesn't mean Kaido won't just shrug and let Orochi do with Momo what he wants once he does or doesn't get the answers he wants - and knowing Orochi, Momo would be dead in a second.

Just like they wouldn't be able to rescue Robin had the initial raid on Enies Lobby failed.

The other thing is the method of how they got there. The Rocket Man train was an out of control machine that couldn't stop until it crashed. They had to get back to Water 7 another way.

No, the Sunny, Polar Tang and Victoria Punk haven't been sunk, but the other ships were. There is no going back here.

It's a very unpopular opinion. People want a third round. I prefer an enies lobby scenario, it looks a lot more realistic given the circumstances, orochi is a scumbag, he won't let anybody alive if they lose.
In fact it's exactly what happened with the rebellion 10 years ago, everyone was killed.

We will have a lot of fights, this battle is going to last long, with a third round that would extend the arc to 300 chapters, but oda stated that he wanted to finish One Piece in 5 years. It is already not possible.

 

[Buusatan94]

How are they going back to the mainland? They don't want to run away and there are no boat left, not enough at least. That's the real issue.
They will fight to the death. Luffy won't run away either.
And croc left the place and had some stuff to do after he thought he finished luffy, kaido ain't leaving the place, he will destroy anybody, they're not escaping if he is still up. Big mom also wants luffy dead.

For me they have to win, there is no possible escape.

What I can concede is that after a brief clash with kaido, their fight is interrupted by something, or kaido sent him flying and he has to fight his way to kaido again like what happened with Doffy.

But they will win in onigashima.

Well they still have the Sunny, Law's submarine, Kid's ship and plenty of ships belonging to the Beast Pirates and Orochi's forces to steal. Plus Neko and those who will come with him will surely have at least one big ship.

It's possible that Luffy may indeed not run but it's still possible and likely for him to be beaten again anyway.
I don't see the alliance winning against the power of two yonkos at Onigashima, unless BM turns on Kaido or if she and the King of Beasts are separated somehow due to an exterior intervention.
I am pretty certain that the true final battle will happens on the mainland.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Well they still have the Sunny, Law's submarine, Kid's ship and plenty of ships belonging to the Beast Pirates and Orochi's forces to steal. Plus Neko and those who will come with him will surely have at least one big ship.

It's possible that Luffy may indeed not run but it's still possible and likely for him to be beaten again anyway.
I don't see the alliance winning against the power of two yonkos at Onigashima, unless BM turns on Kaido or if she and the King of Beasts are separated somehow due to an exterior intervention.
I am pretty certain that the true final battle will happens on the mainland.

It's going to take a long time before we have the answer but maybe we can bet on it.Who is the character you hate the most?

 

[januarysdaughter]

It's a very unpopular opinion. People want a third round. I prefer an enies lobby scenario, it looks a lot more realistic given the circumstances, orochi is a scumbag, he won't let anybody alive if they lose.

There it is, right there. If this mission fails, that's it. They're done.

Now, do I think that things are going to go downhill for the alliance and that's when Neko finally decides to grace us with his presence? Sure, I can see that happening. But I don't see this being a thing where the battle totally stops, everyone goes to train for a week or two, and then the fighting resumes. Orochi would never let that happen.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

There it is, right there. If this mission fails, that's it. They're done.

Now, do I think that things are going to go downhill for the alliance and that's when Neko finally decides to grace us with his presence? Sure, I can see that happening. But I don't see this being a thing where the battle totally stops, everyone goes to train for a week or two, and then the fighting resumes. Orochi would never let that happen.

There can't be any training anymore. Until now they were hiding and planning, once they start the raid, there will be no rest time, they can't run away and say they will hide somewhere and train.
They will have all orochi's and kaido's forces on their asses.
Just imagine they have a few boat, did people forget kaido can fly and boro breath these ships till they sink, how are they going to stop that. Even king can fly, big mom too with Prometheus.

They are not just going to say, "oh they lost, let them run away, we'll fight them again later, let's finish our party for now".

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Yes that's why I said she would sneak into the boat.
And tama doesn't have to come to onigashima anyway. I was just trying to guess how it would be possible.
Kanjuro doesn't have to kill hiyori, he can be sent just to kidnap her.

My point is that the final battle will be in onigashima, they can't run away. The only ones missing are neko and his reinforcements.

You mean tama has that df and will never use it in this war?

 

[Luffy is the mc]

You mean tama has that df and will never use it in this war?

Yeah why not? I don't what will happen with tama, all I'm saying is that the war will end with the victory of the alliance in onigashima.
Willing to bet? I mean I'm not going to change your mind and you won't change mine.
Let's bet an avatar for 2 weeks. Just for fun.

 

[Buusatan94]

I also expect another big absurd twist with Big Mom to make her turn on Kaido or becoming nice again, knowing Oda. Possibly also something that will foreshadow her return to her former adoptive home.

 

[Aknolagon]

Two possibilities :

1) Luffy vs Kaido in air fight so they come in the mainland.
2) Zoro cutting Kaido who became mad and want to destroy Wano after his defeat against Luffy, because people from Wano need to see another feat like ryuma's one. Could also be against King who destroys everything.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Somethings going to happen when Big Mom meets Black Maria, It's just begging to happen.

 

[januarysdaughter]

I also expect another big absurd twist with Big Mom to make her turn on Kaido or becoming nice again, knowing Oda. Possibly also something that will foreshadow her return to her former adoptive home.

If I have to deal with Big Mom for another arc I'm going to scream. I can't stand her character. WCI was enough.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

If I have to deal with Big Mom for another arc I'm going to scream. I can't stand her character. WCI was enough.

She's been ok since wano imo, no hunger pangs. That's all we can hope for.