Chapter Discussion This chapter is magic

#23
For example I know of very obnoxious kidd or carrot fans that I think trump Mihawk fans in this regard.

But if depending on where you look, you may see more volume of Mihawk glaze posts, and you could have never talked to a kidd-tard in your life.
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No, it's a fact. I don't see anybody being as obnoxious as Mihawk fans are.
"No, it's a fact" / "I don't see anybody"

It's not a fact, because it's not Objective

You don't know what Objectivity, and Subjectivity are.

Something subjective means it's stance dependant therefore it depends on someone's stance, like you saying "I don't see"

Objective means it's stance-independant Meaning it's the case regardless of what you and I think, but here you are giving me your opinion.
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Just because YOU don't see another fandom as obnoxious

Does not mean any other fandom is not as obnoxious, objectively

Here you go man
 
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#24
Always pointing fingers to rationalize this.
- I've never said I liked Shanks, but Mihawk fans start arguments with me for even mentioning him, and then blame me for them starting arguments.
I never said you like Shanks either. But my bad then. I now see that you were talking about your own experiences getting piled on, and not calling Mihawk fans toxic in general. I've seen similar aggression from both sides, so I just pointed out a possible cause-and-effect pattern. But in your case, I agree that is uncalled for. No one should get swarmed just for mentioning a character neutrally.
 
#28
I don't like Mihawk fans, not because Mihawk is a bad character, but because Mihawk fans are usually just here to be hypercritical and aura farm. They represent an undesirable part of the fandom, and in-fact they display anti-fan behavior frequently.

Am I demonizing them? No, they demonized themselves. They wanted the attention, it's just negative attention.
It's funny because me, as a good character enjoyer, i like Shanks way more but why wouldn't i recognize Mihawk as the WSS (until disputed in the future)?
Lemme make another example, using Elden Ring DLC, Shadows of The Erdtree and Elden Ring Nightreign as an example.
Messmer is a way better boss than Promised Consort Radahn, sure, not as tough to beat but way better.
The same goes to Heolstor the Nightlord vs the Dreglord Straghess, Nightlord is a way better boss, from the design, to the music, to the attacks than the more difficult rotten mass of wtf.
 
#29
It's funny because me, as a good character enjoyer, i like Shanks way more but why wouldn't i recognize Mihawk as the WSS (until disputed in the future)?
Lemme make another example, using Elden Ring DLC, Shadows of The Erdtree and Elden Ring Nightreign as an example.
Messmer is a way better boss than Promised Consort Radahn, sure, not as tough to beat but way better.
The same goes to Heolstor the Nightlord vs the Dreglord Straghess, Nightlord is a way better boss, from the design, to the music, to the attacks than the more difficult rotten mass of wtf.
I'm not sure what you're even trying to argue about.
 
#31
The powerful swordsman Shanks used to fight using both of his hands




It makes sense why Mihawk lost interest in him as a rival.





Gaban says most don't make it to the top





Mihawk, on the other hand, is so powerful that he achieved it; he is at the top of the world, which is why he is the most powerful swordsman in the world.

Nadel and Mihawk-bros when they see characters from tens of years ago using swords so they can leech feats
 
#32
I'm not sure what you're even trying to argue about.
The Mihawk vs Shanks argument, i'm on Mihawk's side on the strength part.
For example, when a Shanks stan says "Duh, but Mihawk didn't defeat Vista" and use the "let's postpone" take as an argument to why Mihawk is weaker, i can just remember Shanks getting verbally washed by Mihawk in front of his entire crew, proceeding to pour Mihawk drink a moment later.
 
#37
Shanks deserved more than being just a simple Yonko... he was the genius of Roger's crew, he learned Kamusari at a young age, and he was clearly destined for more. Gaban himself says so when he calls him a child of destiny
Yeah buts its clear he understands his role, whatever that is. That much is understood now that we know the DF Luffy at was purposeful or even intended for Ace. There's a direct sequence of events that played out here in order for Luffy to eventually be successful as PK.
 
#39
Yeah buts its clear he understands his role, whatever that is. That much is understood now that we know the DF Luffy at was purposeful or even intended for Ace. There's a direct sequence of events that played out here in order for Luffy to eventually be successful as PK.
Shanks became the same as Buggy... Buggy knew about Shanks' potential and that he could reach the top, so he gave up on all his dreams to follow him




The mighty swordsman Shanks, who held legendary duels with the world's strongest swordsman and was even admired by the world's strongest man, gave up on his dreams of reaching the top........


The top is destined for the most powerful in the world; Gaban himself explains it



Mihawk never gave up on his dreams and was able to reach the top of the world.

 
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