Speculations To ZKK deniers, when will Enma turn black?

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

try reading the OP

you can just say you dont know

 

[hedera__helix]

you can just say you dont know

? i outlined when they would go black in the OP

 

[KiriNigiri]

Not exactly what's being asked, but I'm not too big a fan of each of Zoro's swords turning black one at a time. You run the risk of diminishing returns. Imo, it would be better if all 3 swords turned black simultaneously, or Oda tries something different for each blade.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

? i outlined when they would go black in the OP

llet me rephrase
we have no idea what the goal of sandai as a blade is .

 

[hedera__helix]

if turning a blade black was simply fulfilling the will of the sword , is it really in anyway impressive?
I would like to think its a lot more complicated than that , maybe it has to do with one's armament mastery
but personally I have always seen it as a powerup reserved for future arcs since the only swordsman who currently has one is the strongest one and we are supposed to believe zoro is still significant ways off from that.

if zoro were to leave this arc with a black blade for hypothetically killing kaido after luffy defeated him
it would honestly justify the argument that forging a black blades has little correlation with one's strength as characters like shanks, oden, roger , rayleigh all in their primes are no doubt stronger than zoro who just forged one.

Well, personally I don’t believe blackening a random blade makes you stronger than someone who didn’t blacken their own blade.

But blackening the same blade that someone else failed to blacken does narratively make you stronger than that person so when Zoro blackens Enma, that will signify him surpassing Oden which fits perfectly with him being the monster samurai that Kaido is waiting for. That won’t make him stronger than Roger/Shanks just yet though.

 

[Shasha23]

When Zoro fights to keep wano open when the world government comes and tries to conquer it like they’re planning.

It’s when I expect Zoro to get Nidai and when I expect him to turn Enma black as well

If making black blades was that easy Roger, Shanks, Rayleigh and Newgate would have had them

 

[HA001]

llet me rephrase
we have no idea what the goal of sandai as a blade is .

It won't. He's taking the nidai
And that will turn black after beating the shodai and becoming the apex kitetsu
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if turning a blade black was simply fulfilling the will of the sword , is it really in anyway impressive?
I would like to think its a lot more complicated than that , maybe it has to do with one's armament mastery
but personally I have always seen it as a powerup reserved for future arcs since the only swordsman who currently has one is the strongest one and we are supposed to believe zoro is still significant ways off from that.

if zoro were to leave this arc with a black blade for hypothetically killing kaido after luffy defeated him
it would honestly justify the argument that forging a black blades has little correlation with one's strength as characters like shanks, oden, roger , rayleigh all in their primes are no doubt stronger than zoro who just forged one.

Nope it means they all failures who haven't really achieved what they want

 

[radiant07]

so you think grim reaper is a physical manifestation of Enma. I could see that tbh because isn’t Enma the king of the underworld.

Since it wasn't a Brook gag then possibly idk what Oda is cooking up

 

[JohnnyBme]

there's this stupid theory that says Zoro will turn Wado white
https://www.opfanpage.com/2022/05/0...e-the-first-white-blade-at-1he-end-of-series/
honestly might be cool or not..

it fits with the zoro policeman anti black meme

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Well, personally i don’t believe blackening a random blade makes you stronger than someone who didn’t blacken their own blade.

But blackening the same blade that someone else failed to blacken does narratively make you stronger than that person so when Zoro blackens Enma, that will signify him surpassing Oden which fits perfectly with him being the monster samurai that Kaido is waiting for. That won’t make him stronger than Roger/Shanks just yet though.

surpass oden in making black blades sure
surpass oden in strength ? NO
it wouldnt since it has little to do with strength as you said rather circumstances such as not being robbed of a fair fight .


I dont think zoro is going toe to toe with kaido after this arc , oden was .

 

[HA001]

surpass oden in making black blades sure
surpass oden in strength ? NO
it wouldnt since it has little to do with strength as you said rather circumstances such as not being robbed of a fair fight .


I dont think zoro is going toe to toe with kaido after this arc , oden was .

Tf you mean no he gonna kill kaido.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

It won't. He's taking the nidai
And that will turn black after beating the shodai and becoming the apex kitetsu
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Nope it means they all failures who haven't really achieved what they want

so the goal of the sword is to become the apex kitetsu
where did you read that .

 

[HA001]

so the goal of the sword is to become the apex kitetsu
where did you read that .

In one piece

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Tf you mean no he gonna kill kaido.

kaido's just been defeated mate ..
I certainly hope you dont think this hypothetical execution theory is a full on fight .

 

[hedera__helix]

surpass oden in making black blades sure
surpass oden in strength ? NO
it wouldnt since it has little to do with strength as you said rather circumstances such as not being robbed of a fair fight .


I dont think zoro is going toe to toe with kaido after this arc , oden was .

meh if Kaido really does acknowledge Zoro as the monster samurai, that would be him putting Zoro on the same pedestal as Oden so if ZKK happens, I don’t see how anyone could argue that Oden > Zoro.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

In one piece

show me the panel
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meh if Kaido really does acknowledge Zoro as the monster samurai, that would be him putting Zoro on the same pedestal as Oden so if ZKK happens, I don’t see how anyone could argue that Oden > Zoro.

he is already the monster samurai
he scarred him

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Not this arc i believe. Thats why i think he will fight shiryuu and learn secrets of black blade.

 

[HA001]

kaido's just been defeated mate ..
I certainly hope you dont think this hypothetical execution theory is a full on fight .

What hypothetical execution lmfao
Kaido getting back up

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

What hypothetical execution lmfao
Kaido getting back up

ah ok back up to full strength?
and half dead zoro fights him
and kills him yeah?

 

[hedera__helix]

show me the panel
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he is already the monster samurai
he scarred him

He never said whoever scars him is the new monster samurai, he just said none of the scabbards were the monster samurai because they don’t have enough power to even up the old scar.