Speculations To ZKK deniers, when will Enma turn black?

[M944]

it didn’t have one? all oden had to do to blacken enma was fulfill his own will but he failed

So if he Dreams to Kill a fodder and achieve it he get a black blade
So easy lol

Also even if Zoro don't kill Kaido it's not an issue he just have to fulfill his own will lol

 

[Tai long]

then the sword’s will is inherited from its first wielder’s

so what if someone else maybe luffy inherit and solves odens will enma never be black or would it automatically turn black even if zoro did not do anything

 

[Fn Lucci]

Zoro forging Enma into black blade isn't even his own merit since Oden already fought many battles with it
Zoro only fought 3 fights with it so far.

Anyway you don't forge black blade by Killin the dragon or kaido
Ryuma didn't do it by killing that dragon

You're assuming it's preloaded. As if Oden could kill X amount of worthy foes and someone who picks it up after to kill a single fodder can potentially turn it black because of the previous experiences

 

[Yoru]

This is not a thread to debate whether ZKK will happen or not.

Zoro will definitely have 3 blackened blades by EOS. Most people who believe in ZKK (including me) believe that Enma will turn black after it, with Zoro fulfilling the sword's will. It's pretty obvious that Wado will be his last sword to blacken which will happen after Zoro beats Mihawk and becomes WSS. A lot of people speculate that Sandai (or Nidai) will go black after beating the bald Gorosei who likely wields Shodai Kitetsu, sometime between the end of Wano and the Mihawk fight.

To those who don't believe in ZKK, under what circumstances do you think Enma will go black? In my opinion, it would be pretty underwhelming for it go black in any arc other than Wano considering Enma will never again have the narrative relevance that it currently does.

Yeah there is a big chance zoro will have three black sword. But i dont think he will get it in near time, and sandai kitetsu quality cant keep up with zoro performance he need the better one. Maybe after ZKK happen he will got back shusui after claimed to become the new sword god.
But there is a chance even i think its really small, back then ryuuma made shusui black because he kill dragon, maybe its will happen again with enma.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

This is not a thread to debate whether ZKK will happen or not.

Zoro will definitely have 3 blackened blades by EOS. Most people who believe in ZKK (including me) believe that Enma will turn black after it, with Zoro fulfilling the sword's will. It's pretty obvious that Wado will be his last sword to blacken which will happen after Zoro beats Mihawk and becomes WSS. A lot of people speculate that Sandai (or Nidai) will go black after beating the bald Gorosei who likely wields Shodai Kitetsu, sometime between the end of Wano and the Mihawk fight.

To those who don't believe in ZKK, under what circumstances do you think Enma will go black? In my opinion, it would be pretty underwhelming for it go black in any arc other than Wano considering Enma will never again have the narrative relevance that it currently does.

And then someone makes a habakiri turning black cope thread.

 

[Adam-san]

When he faces of against mihawk.
Only 2 PUs needed. Next level Obv Haki against Shiryu and Black Blade against Mihawk

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Enma - Turns Black while Zoro fights off against the world government to keep Wano free (Same thing as Ryuma and leads to Zoro leading the other samurai)

Sandai - Gets destroyed in the fight with the World Government (mirroring Yubashiri) -> Zoro is given Nidai from Tenguyama

Wado - Awakens an ability like Enmas haki drain in the fight against Shiryu then turns black in the fight where Zoro becomes the WSS

This is my opinion on how Zoros swords will grow till EOS

 

[hedera__helix]

So if he Dreams to Kill a fodder and achieve it he get a black blade
So easy lol

Also even if Zoro don't kill Kaido it's not an issue he just have to fulfill his own will lol

a conqueror wouldn't dream of killing a fodder and enma still contains oden's will

so what if someone else maybe luffy inherit and solves odens will enma never be black or would it automatically turn black even if zoro did not do anything

it wouldn't, the sword has to complete that will

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

llet me rephrase
we have no idea what the goal of sandai as a blade is .

Kill Zoro
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He's turning all 3 black at the same time. Turning them one at a time is dumb.
Zoro is a 3-sword style user. Which means all 3 swords are necessary for his fighting style. They are all pivotal pieces of his.
Even if Enma had to suck the CoC out of him, all 3 swords ended up having the black lightning. They are not separate things. They are pieces of a whole.

Zoro is a sword user. He invented three sword style but he also uses a form of two sword style, one sword, and "mutoryu" his "no sword" hand to hand fighting style he used in the Davy back fight. It's not like he only uses 3 sword

 

[Tai long]

a conqueror wouldn't dream of killing a fodder and enma still contains oden's will


it wouldn't, the sword has to complete that will

So what if zoro got the sword a year after wano was over and was never in the SH crew does that mean he would never turn it black and everything is just coincidence

 

[M944]

a conqueror wouldn't dream of killing a fodder and enma still contains oden's

You just proved that your theory is shit
Oden wanted to Kill Orochi lol

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

How does killing Kaido, blacken Enma?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Kill Zoro
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Zoro is a sword user. He invented three sword style but he also uses a form of two sword style, one sword, and "mutoryu" his "no sword" hand to hand fighting style he used in the Davy back fight. It's not like he only uses 3 sword

you do realize
thats what enma's is too.
....

 

[Cross_Marian]

When Zoro fights to keep wano open when the world government comes and tries to conquer it like they’re planning.

It’s when I expect Zoro to get Nidai and when I expect him to turn Enma black as well

That would be dope af

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Fighting mihawk or shiryu

 

[JoNdule]

When he faces of against mihawk.
Only 2 PUs needed. Next level Obv Haki against Shiryu and Black Blade against Mihawk

Black blade when he fghts shiryu most likely

 

[Loonarian]

If turning black is just some symbolic gesture, Enma and every other sword is better off turning black near the end of the series.

 

[Salah WG]

I have a different question for them tbh
Where is Kaidou's Flashback Part that explains why he wants to Die?

 

[Banchi]

It already is Zoro just has to battle death to become king of hell

 

[Lor D. Coast]

And Odens will is not really to "defeat Kaido", it was to open Wanos borders

So Zoro is Joyboy? Take on par with Zoro never showed any hints of having CoC.