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But it's ok for looter riots? BLM riots etc..
Joe Biden has also condemned have protests that have turned into Rioting and Looting. 93% of Black Lives Matter Protests have been peaceful

In your eyes every person that protests is a looter or a rioter out there to only cause destruction?

What about protestors that march to a state capital with Guns?

What about militia groups that plan to kidnap governors?

What about vigilantes who shoot peaceful protestors?
 
But it's ok for looter riots? BLM riots etc..
Joe Biden has also condemned have protests that have turned into Rioting and Looting. 93% of Black Lives Matter Protests have been peaceful

In your eyes every person that protests is a looter or a rioter out there to only cause destruction?

What about protestors that march to a state capital with Guns?

What about militia groups that plan to kidnap governors?

What about vigilantes who shoot peaceful protestors?
stop exchanging whataboutisms lol.

It is fair though to say biden would be inconsistent on that one, because not only the riots have huge masses of people.

Also, not sure i'd trust the 93% stuff, because from how they phrased it it sounded like they counted ~100days of riots in portland as 1 case of violent protest. Which would obviously be ridiculous.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
No shit, Joe Biden doesnt put peoples lives at risk by holding packed 1000 plus people ralliies
? They had plenty of large gatherings in rallies....and they encourage people gathering together to protest with Biden himself getting involved.
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stop exchanging whataboutisms lol.

It is fair though to say biden would be inconsistent on that one, because not only the riots have huge masses of people.

Also, not sure i'd trust the 93% stuff, because from how they phrased it it sounded like they counted ~100days of riots in portland as 1 case of violent protest. Which would obviously be ridiculous.
The whole country was on fire for months due to Geroge Flyod riots so I highly doubt 93% were peaceful.
 
stop exchanging whataboutisms lol.

It is fair though to say biden would be inconsistent on that one, because not only the riots have huge masses of people.

Also, not sure i'd trust the 93% stuff, because from how they phrased it it sounded like they counted ~100days of riots in portland as 1 case of violent protest. Which would obviously be ridiculous.
Facts dont care about your feelings
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? They had plenty of large gatherings in rallies....and they encourage people gathering together to protest with Biden himself getting involved.
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The whole country was on fire for months due to Geroge Flyod riots so I highly doubt 93% were peaceful.
Biden holding100-500 person rallies with social distancing measures is different from thousands of peoeple and no social distancing

Just because you watch Fox New's or Oann showing buildings on fire doesnt mean the "whole country" was on fire
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
Facts dont care about your feelings
There's lots of evidence saying that lots of the protests were violent, especially the beginning. There were 14k arrest and 120M in property damage when I last checked it in July.
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Oh I was wrong. In Minneapolis alone, the BLM riots caused:

-14k arrests
-19+ deaths
-500M in property damage
-all as of June 2020

There were many more violent protests and riots across the country.

Biden supported this(and at the same time denounced this aka contradictibg himself again)and even participated in a BLM March despite all his talks about social distance, containing the virus and enforcing lockdowns.
 
Facts are the Truth
Feelings are not the Truth and dont depict facts
it was a joke because it was a quote from biden. . .
Your interpretation of the 93% from a non partisan report ACLED is your feeling towards that report

https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/de...violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

Here's the report
You seem to have misunderstood what i said.

Between 24 May and 22 August, ACLED records more than 10,600 demonstration events across the country. Over 10,100 of these — or nearly 95% — involve peaceful protesters. Fewer than 570 — or approximately 5% — involve demonstrators engaging in violence.
I was referring to this. Were ~100 days of riots in portland counted as one demonstration event? that would make sense, but it screws with the numbers. This has nothing to do with my feelings, this is just an observation i made
 
There's lots of evidence saying that lots of the protests were violent, especially the beginning. There were 14k arrest and 120M in property damage when I last checked it in July.
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Oh I was wrong. In Minneapolis alone, the BLM riots caused:

-14k arrests
-19+ deaths
-500M in property damage
-all as of June 2020

There were many more violent protests and riots across the country.

Biden supported this(and at the same time denounced this aka contradictibg himself again)and even participated in a BLM March despite all his talks about social distance, containing the virus and enforcing lockdowns.
Ill post my article from a non partisan report

https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/de...violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

Most the arrest were non violet, either failing to dispurse or breaking curfew.

Damage was 1-2 billion dollars and wasnt just caused by Black Lives Matter Protestors, again Democrats have been on record condemning violent protesting
 
it was a joke because it was a quote from biden. . .

You seem to have misunderstood what i said.


I was referring to this. Were ~100 days of riots in portland counted as one demonstration event? that would make sense, but it screws with the numbers. This has nothing to do with my feelings, this is just an observation i made
It counts as one, that's how their metrics work, you can choose to interpret 100 days of rioting differently

140 cities 1-2 billion dollars in damage that mostly insurance paid for.
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what about non-violent protesting? Or dont protesters spread covid when they ideologically agree with you? (i think that was the point @Ravagerblade was trying to get at)
What is the issue with peaceful protesting?
 
It counts as one, that's how their metrics work, you can choose to interpret 100 days of rioting differently

140 cities 1-2 billion dollars in damage that mostly insurance paid for.
And thats why i wouldnt exactly trust the number.

Example(!!!!!): If 100 days of rioting in portland counts as 1 demonstration event, 99 peaceful events with each being 1 day would mean 1% of protests were violent, and thats just ridiculous and still has nothing to do with my feelings.
 
And thats why i wouldnt exactly trust the number.

Example(!!!!!): If 100 days of rioting in portland counts as 1 demonstration event, 99 peaceful events with each being 1 day would mean 1% of protests were violent, and thats just ridiculous and still has nothing to do with my feelings.
I get it that you disagree with those numbers and that's your opinion and your interpretation of how they came to their conclusion.

Those are the facts and you feel they are wrong via x,y,z
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what about non-violent protesting? Or dont protesters spread covid when they ideologically agree with you? (i think that was the point @Ravagerblade was trying to get at)
I disagree with this, he never referred to that he immediately lumped in BLM as rioters and looters.

If he said what about the people who protested the George Floyd murder that had large gatherings, that would be a different conversation
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
It counts as one, that's how their metrics work, you can choose to interpret 100 days of rioting differently

140 cities 1-2 billion dollars in damage that mostly insurance paid for.
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What is the issue with peaceful protesting?
Its contradictory to what Democrats say. They always shoot on Trump for having large gatherings at rallies but have no issue with large gatherings to protest and sometimes participate themselves.
 
I get it that you disagree with those numbers and that's your opinion and your interpretation of how they came to their conclusion.

Those are the facts and you feel they are wrong via x,y,z
No, i have a reasonable objection to trust these numbers, it has nothing to do with feelings. I also dont necessarily disagree with those numbers, they could be even higher for peaceful protests, because the issue of their methodology could skew the numbers in either direction
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I disagree with this, he never referred to that he immediately lumped in BLM as rioters and looters.

If he said what about the people who protested the George Floyd murder that had large gatherings, that would be a different conversation
TBF, he did add an "etc" to that lol.

But sure, it wasnt exactly clear, which is why i brought it up saying thats what i think was his point. And since he liked that post of mine, its fair to assume it was his point, even if he didnt get it across all that well.
 
Its contradictory to what Democrats say. They always shoot on Trump for having large gatherings at rallies but have no issue with large gatherings to protest and sometimes participate themselves.
Donald Trump just got covid and is still doing these rallies, no mask mandate, etc, that's the disconnect
 
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