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[Ultra]

But, they all seem to have destroyed the keys every time a servant died as a group. So a fake dead servant probably no longer has a key?

Actually they didn't destroy the key for the last two servants, or at least that was omitted. The red bit specifies keys can't be used by other characters which is a bit confusing though as logically I would assume a culprit could pick a key off a dead character. Key or no key doesn't matter though, fake dead servant could kill doc and then go outside still technically.

"The group sealed the room at the same time they left. No culprit joined the group as they left. Also, all of the seals on Natsuhi's room, the dining hall, and the mansion itself will not be broken."

This means even with a fake death in T1/T2 they can't be a later culprit. So if you're assuming Jess is killed be someone who's supposed to be dead we can eliminate everyone from those groups.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Here's what we know on dead people.

Doc, Jessica, and Shanon all really died. We know 5 of the people in the 1st Twlight really died.

So 2 fake deaths between the 1 at most in the group of 6, 1 of the 2 in the second pair (if 1 of them killed the other and was covered for.. may could be both fake but I doubt it?), possibly either of the Gohda/Kumasawa pair or maybe both but both of those were doubled confirmed fwiw (I don't see someone declaring they destroyed their keys fwiw, need to scope some Red Text if its stated elsewhere in the final post).

 

[Dr_Professor83]

This means even with a fake death in T1/T2 they can't be a later culprit. So if you're assuming Jess is killed be someone who's supposed to be dead we can eliminate everyone from those groups.

That means only one of Gohda or Kumasawa could have done it.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

If we assume one of them is the Jess killer, and Idk who else could be.. we need to start looking at their purple statements.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Neither of those servants could be the 2nd Twlight killer though.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

This is all the shit those 2 said.

1st Twilight

Gohda: The dining hall was locked up.

Kumasawa: That's when I arrived.

Gohda: I unlocked the door with a master key

Kumasawa: Eva-sama, Hideyoshi-sama, Rudolf-sama, Kyrie-sama, Rosa-sama ,and Genji-san, six people in all, were lying there, covered in blood...

2nd Twlight

Gohda: Madam's room was locked!

4th Twlight

Gohda: So, not one of us has an alibi...!

Gohda: To prevent the culprit from using it for any mischief, we destroyed the master key Shannon-san had on the spot.

5th/6th Twlight - Character's on their deaths

Nanjo: In both Gohda-san's and Kumasawa-san's cases, such wounds would have resulted in instant deaths, I believe.

Jessica: Gohda-san and Kumasawa-san are both dead!

 

[Ultra]

That means only one of Gohda or Kumasawa could have done it.

But that also means that both one of them AND Doc AND Jess were all in cahoots. That's kinda wild.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

But that also means that both one of them AND Doc AND Jess were all in cahoots. That's kinda wild.

I suppose Jessica could have been mistaken on them being dead.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Toshiro Gohda - One of the servants serving the Ushiromiya family, hired for his skill as a chef. He is not permitted to wear the One-Winged Eagle.

Chiyo Kumasawa - One of the servants serving the Ushiromiya family. She had served the family for many years, and often plays hookey while on duty. She is not permitted to wear the One-Winged Eagle.

Fwiw I see these are the only 2 servants not allowed to wear the Eagle crest lmao. Got salty so they killed him. The Lady especially probably mad since she's been there a long time.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

If Ghodi lied about the 2nd room being locked, and the Maid who unlocked it (Shanon) was too dumb to notice she was unlocking an unlocked door. I suppose the Doctor could have killed them.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I think we agree at minimum, any way we slice it, the doctor probably a culprit lol.

 

[Reborn]

17 characters - 13 deads but narrations says 11 dead. Which means 2 people faked their death.

First Twilight -

The culprit of the first twilight (first set of murders) really did kill at least 5 people -

2 people
Rooms - were locked.

Children confirmed the deaths - this means one of the children lied. - George, Maria or Butler - one of them lied and they are also the ones alive.

 

[Reborn]

In short, it's possible one of the person faked the death during first Twilight.


George, Maria and Battler confirmed it for their parents.

Doc and Kannon for genji

 

[Ultra]

I think we agree at minimum, any way we slice it, the doctor probably a culprit lol.

Yeah I think he kinda has to be to square T2.

 

[Reborn]

First Twilight - Maria is sus


She said they died instantly


But she isn't doc

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I don't really see a way to indicate which of the 2nd two would be the culprit over the other.. when I think we would have some indication if one killed the other? Unless we are expected to blindly guess?

 

[Dr_Professor83]

That's perhaps too presumptive, but it is a thought.

 

[Reborn]

Is Jessica fuckin high on drugs


Twice she ruled out alive ones as culprits 😑😑

 

[Dr_Professor83]

We can may can start actually thinking about motives too. I assume someone had to gain from all this killing. And we probably know the succession order for a reason. After the blood is cleared.. assuming none of the 6 parents are alive to claim the throne (maybe too far of an assumption already). George looks set to take the bag fwiw.

The 2nd couple, were already first up for the head of the family fwiw also.

But this may not help at all either. Jessica, was the daughter of the couple in the 2nd room that died, if one was in on it.. probably leave their kid unscathed?

 

[Dr_Professor83]

^ the above assumes there is legitimate motive logic at play in this puzzle and it isn’t just random serial killing conspiracy lol.