Controversial Venting Thread - Mafia Edition
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- Tags ekko and beta forever hime is a bully reloaded is guilty and i can prove it
its a bit of a loaded subjective question that isnt rooted in what's happening here but you most likely know my answer:
first id want that guy to be casted to hekko. he needs to receive full legal punishment for his actions. if its a fine + jail time + deportation or loss of job and assets or whatever. the full package
after time passes and the guy serves his sentence i cant talk about how id feel because its not something that happened. and my opinion is of very little significance here to what the judges and parole committee decides. id probably not talk to the guy until i see some serious improvements and wont want him back to the same place my sister is at because of how awkward itd be.
thats the subjective part of it. the objective part is where real justice is. after the guy did what he did we will leave his punishment up to the justice system. he'll pay his fine, serve his sentence or whatever, then at the end of it if the justice system has a release day for him, he'll be released.
now this is obviously a much more extreme case than here so this one is much simpler. the justice system determines if beta comes back, not the victims. if the justice system is curropt then beta is fked and his sentense is wrong / elongated longer than his term, and nothing will stop them from abusing authority over him. now we're just robbing people of their deserved freedom.
first id want that guy to be casted to hekko. he needs to receive full legal punishment for his actions. if its a fine + jail time + deportation or loss of job and assets or whatever. the full package
after time passes and the guy serves his sentence i cant talk about how id feel because its not something that happened. and my opinion is of very little significance here to what the judges and parole committee decides. id probably not talk to the guy until i see some serious improvements and wont want him back to the same place my sister is at because of how awkward itd be.
thats the subjective part of it. the objective part is where real justice is. after the guy did what he did we will leave his punishment up to the justice system. he'll pay his fine, serve his sentence or whatever, then at the end of it if the justice system has a release day for him, he'll be released.
now this is obviously a much more extreme case than here so this one is much simpler. the justice system determines if beta comes back, not the victims. if the justice system is curropt then beta is fked and his sentense is wrong / elongated longer than his term, and nothing will stop them from abusing authority over him. now we're just robbing people of their deserved freedom.
@hime was busy earlier so gave a half assed answer
basically wanted to also add that your question is more gated toward what i think. you'll find what i think about the hypothetical rapist aligns closer to what you think about beta. but there will always be another party comprised of defense lawyers and justice system that process things differently. criminals also have rights. we as victims dont have the right to rob them of their freedom if they served their sentence
WG follows a made up justice system that is i think is due for some amendments. first the mods have too much subjective powers to do anything they deem proper. this needs to be limited by some guidelines. a proper constitution needs to be put in place. right now WG operates in a system like imagine if the cops just look at the criminals and decide what they want the punishment to be based on what they think, not based on a pre defined criteria
i.e one rapist can get 3 years in prison, another gets lifetime, and the only difference is the cop hated the guts of one of them, or maybe was simply in a better mood. point is this is unjust. and unfortunately this is how WG justice system operates. we dont have an established constitution to govern the governments (mods) actions.
basically wanted to also add that your question is more gated toward what i think. you'll find what i think about the hypothetical rapist aligns closer to what you think about beta. but there will always be another party comprised of defense lawyers and justice system that process things differently. criminals also have rights. we as victims dont have the right to rob them of their freedom if they served their sentence
WG follows a made up justice system that is i think is due for some amendments. first the mods have too much subjective powers to do anything they deem proper. this needs to be limited by some guidelines. a proper constitution needs to be put in place. right now WG operates in a system like imagine if the cops just look at the criminals and decide what they want the punishment to be based on what they think, not based on a pre defined criteria
i.e one rapist can get 3 years in prison, another gets lifetime, and the only difference is the cop hated the guts of one of them, or maybe was simply in a better mood. point is this is unjust. and unfortunately this is how WG justice system operates. we dont have an established constitution to govern the governments (mods) actions.
ekko u cant tell me youd ever think of talking to the guy "changed" or not if he did something so horrible to ur little sister, regardless of how long its been
also there is nothing abt "awkwardness" here, u wouldnt want him around ur sister anymore bc he did something so horrible that it is impossible to view him the same way or give him the benefit of doubt anymore that he is truly a changed person and therefore u would want him away bc u want ur sister to feel safe and happy, right?
if u want to talk in terms of justice with this or whatever, consider it a full protection restraining order
this is the area beta is restricted from
he is free to roam around the rest of the forum and he is free to play mafia in other places
also there is nothing abt "awkwardness" here, u wouldnt want him around ur sister anymore bc he did something so horrible that it is impossible to view him the same way or give him the benefit of doubt anymore that he is truly a changed person and therefore u would want him away bc u want ur sister to feel safe and happy, right?
if u want to talk in terms of justice with this or whatever, consider it a full protection restraining order
this is the area beta is restricted from
he is free to roam around the rest of the forum and he is free to play mafia in other places
People get perma banned from WG(or forums in general) when they break the rules over and over again, or do something completely fucked. Beta has been(apparently) getting banned from forums and games for almost a decade, most of them for the exact same reasons.
If someone is so much of a repeat offender that they get perma banned, you give people no reason to think that the 8th chance or so would be different. That's pretty much common sense and got nothing to do with AL "having a grudge."
If someone is so much of a repeat offender that they get perma banned, you give people no reason to think that the 8th chance or so would be different. That's pretty much common sense and got nothing to do with AL "having a grudge."
I should have been quicker about writing and posting a message in the thread where the complaint about AL Sama was made, because members on both sides could definitely have handled the situation with much more tact than they did.
But it seems to have been handled now.
Sometimes, patience turns into laziness, and situations end up devolving far more than they need to.
But it seems to have been handled now.
Sometimes, patience turns into laziness, and situations end up devolving far more than they need to.
that's the thing though. that level of discomfort doesn't just magically resolve with an ignore button, people would still (women in particular) wonder if he's having weird, sick thoughts especially if the person in question has been paying an ungodly and weird amount of attention to a straight up delusion
"yapping some letters" is a gross mischaracterization of this whole thing
this isn't rion where he's just some spastic nuisance that can't control himself that based york can easily bully into submission. these are two very different cases and there's different reactions toward them for a reason
i find it weird you keep minimizing what rape or sexual violations the emotional toll has on people and you seem very comfortable just removing that as a factor altogether because "muh legalities" and "the law don't care about yer fee fees" nonsense
lacks an outrageous amount of empathy that it's nausea inducing
"yapping some letters" is a gross mischaracterization of this whole thing
this isn't rion where he's just some spastic nuisance that can't control himself that based york can easily bully into submission. these are two very different cases and there's different reactions toward them for a reason
i find it weird you keep minimizing what rape or sexual violations the emotional toll has on people and you seem very comfortable just removing that as a factor altogether because "muh legalities" and "the law don't care about yer fee fees" nonsense
lacks an outrageous amount of empathy that it's nausea inducing
what you mean doesnt exist. just google it
rapists get 2 years to 20 year jail time + a fine then come out.
we're arguing in circles because we r talking about different things. I dont ask for you, the victims, to forgive him. my discussion isnt with you. it's with the ones pretending to be law enforcement but do not have any abiding constitution
rapists get 2 years to 20 year jail time + a fine then come out.
we're arguing in circles because we r talking about different things. I dont ask for you, the victims, to forgive him. my discussion isnt with you. it's with the ones pretending to be law enforcement but do not have any abiding constitution