Future Events Wano Match-Ups

Kaido probably has shit ton of headliners that you guys don't consider,given that he has huge crew like BM.I expect some of them to have names like Karuta,Hanfuda,Goita,Menko,Oicho-Kabu... all are japanese card games.There are western card games like Poker,Uno,Crazy Eights,Spades.... that also Oda could use.
 
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How in god's name are the kid pirates able to take on a Yonko?
We are still not sure exactly how strong Kid is but I reckon Oda's going to scale him to Luffy given his portrayal in comparison to Luffy's and the very competitive relationship both have. Moreover, chances are that Kid will not be fighting together with anyone on the alliance against the antagonists on Onigashima and I don't think Lilin entering the picture will be changing that. As such I have Kid fighting against Lilin together with his crew. There's also precedent for this fight, like Luffy embarrassed Lilin by beating her sweet commanders, stealing her poneglyph and escaping totland, Kid also injured her sweet commander, stole something valuable from her and escaped totland. IIRC he was also mentioned to have destroyed some of Lilin's ships at some point.

At this point, Kid's crew isn't looking so hot, but I reckon they'd get some sort of power up going into Onigashima as well. Plus they might actually be very good at fighting together and coordinating their attacks which could increase their overall strength exponentially. For example, Kid & Law v Lilin might not necessarily produce greater output than Kid's crew v Lilin.
 
As such I have Kid fighting against Lilin together with his crew.
Give me an example of anything they can do to big mom.

Like first there's Big mom's iron balloon body and physical strength that bounces off Gear forth luffy. Then there's prometheus

It seem you are ignoring the amount of shit required in the plot for the strawhats to escape her. She had to be insane from hunger, Brook had to have a DF that directly counters her df, Nami had to have an ability that let's her steal Big mom's abilities. Multiple people had to betray her. And after all that, the strawhats+sun pirates+ germa+fire tank pirates BARELY SURVIVED.

Now according to you, Big mom without the hunger or people who directly counter her abilities will actually get into a serious fight with Kid's crew? So Kid's crew >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sun pirates+ half of the strawhats+fire tank pirates+germa right?

Because that's literally the only way of saying Kid's crew can do anything to Big mom right? Kid's crew should apparently have Kid at minimum Admiral level and Killer atleast YC2 level and at least 2 YC3 level and 2 veteran level guys.

So what you're saying is that Kid's crew can low diff the strawhats then
 
Give me an example of anything they can do to big mom.

Like first there's Big mom's iron balloon body and physical strength that bounces off Gear forth luffy. Then there's prometheus

It seem you are ignoring the amount of shit required in the plot for the strawhats to escape her. She had to be insane from hunger, Brook had to have a DF that directly counters her df, Nami had to have an ability that let's her steal Big mom's abilities. Multiple people had to betray her. And after all that, the strawhats+sun pirates+ germa+fire tank pirates BARELY SURVIVED.

Now according to you, Big mom without the hunger or people who directly counter her abilities will actually get into a serious fight with Kid's crew? So Kid's crew >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sun pirates+ half of the strawhats+fire tank pirates+germa right?

Because that's literally the only way of saying Kid's crew can do anything to Big mom right? Kid's crew should apparently have Kid at minimum Admiral level and Killer atleast YC2 level and at least 2 YC3 level and 2 veteran level guys.

So what you're saying is that Kid's crew can low diff the strawhats then
I would certainely not count on just Kid and his crew or on Kid + Law to take on a yonko.
With only these guys it would be an one-sided massacre.
 
Give me an example of anything they can do to big mom.
The Kid pirates are featless so you're asking a redundant question. I've already stated that my reasoning for this matchup is based on Kid's portrayal to Luffy. For me there's not much of difference between saying Kid will face of against Lilin and saying Zoro & Sanji will be facing off against King and Queen respectively. Regardless of how strong people think King and Queen are, Zoro & Sanji will most likely be squaring off against them as they are Luffy's strongest fighters. In the same sense, Kid is one of Luffy's closest rivals and both are in very competitive relationship, so if Luffy beats Kaidou, chances are that Kid beats Lilin.

Like first there's Big mom's iron balloon body and physical strength that bounces off Gear forth luffy. Then there's prometheus
With regards to the Lilin v Boundman clash on WCI, I'm one of those that believes that Boundman wasn't completely ineffective against Lilin as it was strong enough to make her hand rattle. (I don't really wanna go into that argument ^^", so it's fine if you disagree) As such, blunt force might be effective against Lilin. Hell, Queen was able to give Lilin an headache with his attack so I think it's likely that blunt force will be able to get through to her even without stuff like advanced armament.

Also in the current chapter, Luffy said he could end the HBPs ship in one attack, to which Kid also said he could do same. It's important to note here that Luffy used Boundman to take out the fleet. As such, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Kid is capable of using attacks on the same scale as boundman.

It seem you are ignoring the amount of shit required in the plot for the strawhats to escape her. She had to be insane from hunger, Brook had to have a DF that directly counters her df, Nami had to have an ability that let's her steal Big mom's abilities. Multiple people had to betray her. And after all that, the strawhats+sun pirates+ germa+fire tank pirates BARELY SURVIVED.
In a way aren't the Kid pirates even more impressive? :p they were able to perform similar feats to the SHs and did it without all that plot amour and those allies. Jokes aside :p, I doubt they had BM personally come after them but still, the fact remains that the Kid pirates performed similar feats to the SHs on paper.

Now according to you, Big mom without the hunger or people who directly counter her abilities will actually get into a serious fight with Kid's crew? So Kid's crew >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sun pirates+ half of the strawhats+fire tank pirates+germa right?

Because that's literally the only way of saying Kid's crew can do anything to Big mom right? Kid's crew should apparently have Kid at minimum Admiral level and Killer atleast YC2 level and at least 2 YC3 level and 2 veteran level guys.

So what you're saying is that Kid's crew can low diff the strawhats then
Again fights don't always have to be powerlevels ^^" even more so when it is many v 1. The strength of a group doesn't necessarily have to increase linearly it could also increase exponentially depending on the affinity and coordination between them. The Kid pirates could be a group that excel in taking down the big bad together as opposed to the SHs who usually delegate that to Luffy. The fact that they have a circus type theme could potentially even hint to that.
 
Again fights don't always have to be powerlevels ^^" even more so when it is many v 1. The strength of a group doesn't necessarily have to increase linearly it could also increase exponentially depending on the affinity and coordination between them. The Kid pirates could be a group that excel in taking down the big bad together as opposed to the SHs who usually delegate that to Luffy. The fact that they have a circus type theme could potentially even hint to that.
Please provide an example of this though.

We saw how the strawhats survived big mom right? The teamed up on her As she was insane with hunger and brook just happened to be able to cut Zues and Jimbei happened to have water powers to counter Prometheus and Nami happened to be able to manipulate Zues and Chopper happened to have monster point that can tank direct hits from Prometheus and Jimbei happened to be the greatest helmsman able to surf Tsunamis and also happened to not fear her at so she couldn't steal his soul and the sunny happened to be strongest ship able to not sink even when a Yonkou is actively destroying it. Sanji happened to be the greatest cook in the world to make a cake that lured big mom away for a few minutes.

See. That's the team work you are proposing exists between the kid pirates right? Well the problem is that as I said before BIG MOM WAS INSANE and All the strawhats just happened to have exactly the abilities required to fend her off out of pure plot necessity and they only managed to do so for a few minutes

On the flip side, you are proposing that the kid pirates DEFEAT A FULLY CONSCIOUS BIG MOM with only team work? Like they don't have the greatest cake ever made, they don't have direct counters to multiple abilities she possesses and they don't have all this environmental advantages like being on sea. No, apparently the power of friendship and cooperation can actually DEFEAT Big mom and all that plot that was required for the strawhats to even escape was entirely superficial.

Apparently the kid pirates can be at best veteran tier but then power of friendship will let them defeat Big mom

Also whether you were joking or not, the kid pirates DID NOT do anything comparable to the strawhats. Hell Urouge did more work than the kid pirates.
 
I think Sanji is going to fight King.

As my great friend @Kishido said
Not to take the glory Zoro beating him... But King is a fast as fuck flying dinosaur with also using flaming kicks as shown in the anime.

Of course he also carries a sword but so is Queen.

An damn fire aerial battle would be awesome and it would give Zoro a better chance of being a HUGE part against Kaidou himself. Not even saying that Sanji would fight him alone
 
I know Oda will absolutely never show this because post-skip he just loves to off-panel things, even when they are really interesting and have major plot relevance, but I would love to see what goes down with the shichibukai.

Fujitora vs Mihawk

there has to be a reason why fujitora wants the shichibukai gone. He must have some sort of a history with some shichibukai for him to have joined the marines solely to destroy the system. I think that he has a past with Mihawk and that we're going to learn a lot more about that when the time comes. I'd actually like to have a drawn out mihawk fight.

Buggy and Shanks vs vice admirals

I think that shanks is probably going to try and save buggy. With the shichibukai system abolished, buggy would need shanks's protection and I think shanks would more than enjoy having the addition of a powerful fleet to his crew. We probably won't see much but maybe a CoC feat or even just shanks slicing up a few marine ships would be pretty cool.

Blackbeard vs Weevil vs Kizaru

I think Weevil could be the thing that blackbeard was possibly talking about going after. Film Z hinted at weevil having a powerful DF so maybe that could be the reason why blackbeard goes after him. I think the marines might send in Kizaru if they knew that blackbeard was targeting weevil as they wouldn't want the blackbeard pirates to get their hands on Weevil's DF.

Coby and Smoker vs Hancock

Given Coby's dreams, I think its about time that Coby had a win under his belt. While beating Hancock might seem impossible, I think that it would actually be a really good place to introduce the SSG. I think the SSG is simply Vegapunk's version of Germa 66. If Sora knight of the sea was based of marine exploits, then it was likely based off an earlier version of the SSG. I think that both Coby and Smoker could be part of the SSG. Smoker, having had his DF forcibly awakened via the same method used to awaken the impel down jailer beasts, would 1v1 hancock, whereas Coby and helmeppo would fight Hancock's sisters using Vegapunk's version of a raid suit.
 
Luffy/Law/kid vs kaido
Zoro vs king/zoro vs orochi/zoro vs Tobi roppo/zoro vs kaido
Sanji vs page one/Sanji vs snack/Sanji vs perospero
Scabbards vs orochi/kyoshiro vs Queen
Ashura vs jack/ashura vs numbers
Inuarashi vs jack/inuarashi vs numbers
Neko vs jack/neko vs numbers
Wci strawhats vs BM executives :compote,flampe,daifaku and others.
Kidd vs smoothie/kid vs snack/kid vs apoo
Law vs smoothie
Kizaru and ssg vs Big mom
9 Sn vs kaido.
Kinemon vs kanjuro/kinemon vs headliners/kinemon vs orochi.
Kawamatsu vs Tobi roppo
Killer vs Tobi roppo/Killer vs Big mom executive/Killer helps against kaido.
 
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