General & Others ''WGS is more practical and widely accepted'', not WSS.

[Kiri]

I don't know about boxing but Swordsmanship is pretty clear when it comes to no touch AdCoC..

The Roger and Whitebeard AdCoC clash, if you remove Roger's Sword alone, nothing changes, if you remove both Roger and Whitebeard's weapon, again nothing changes, if you put baseball bats in both their hands, nothing changes the result always remains the same..

That's why Roger and Whitebeard's clash was a no name clash, you'd have a point if it was paradise Totsuka vs Roger's Divine Departure, those are connecting and are Swordsmanship, in fact they are CoA attacks, not AdCoC..

"I don't know about boxing but Swordsmanship is pretty clear when it comes to no touch AdCoC.. " point went over your head, that was an example of a martial art, just like swordsmanship

"if you put baseball bats in both their hands, nothing changes the result always remains the same.. " nah those baseball bats break, they can't handle theweight/might of their haki, supreme grade blades can though. you're just repeating yourself though so I'm not gonna bother re-explaining in a circular argument

" you'd have a point if it was paradise Totsuka vs Roger's Divine Departure, those are connecting and are Swordsmanship, in fact they are CoA attacks, not AdCoC.. " you're acting like you couldn't use adcoc with those moves? that's the example i gave you but you seem to just ignore it for your convenience.

if two people coat a barrier around their sword defensively like hyogoro explained, in order to not cut the opponent but create a shockwave instead (like with kamusari), what happens when they meet in contact?

I'm just seeing nonsensical lines of argumentation from you

 

[Rootbeer]

point went over your head, that was an example of a martial art, just like swordsmanship

It's not that it went over my head, it's getting away from my point.. Martial Art have nothing to substract whereas Swordsmanship you have an accessory in your hand, if you remove it and no touch AdCoC clash bare fist the result is identical.. The Sword is irrelevant..

nah those baseball bats break, they can't handle theweight/might of their haki, supreme grade blades can though. you're just repeating yourself though so I'm not gonna bother re-explaining in a circular argument

I don't think they would, but lets say they would, replace the Swords with Hassaikai and Takeru, it's the same outcome that's my argument.. It's not Swordsmanship if Blades can't distinguish themself from other weapons or weaponless..

you're acting like you couldn't use adcoc with those moves? that's the example i gave you but you seem to just ignore it for your convenience.

Cause you're moving goalpost to '' named '' attacks when my example is a no name no touch AdCoC clash.. But you're right if they were named attacks it would most likely be Swordsmanship..

if two people coat a barrier around their sword defensively like hyogoro explained, in order to not cut the opponent but create a shockwave instead (like with kamusari), what happens when they meet in contact?

Well CoA Barrier has not been shown to exist for Swordsmen, that's a CoA skill for non weapon users, if you can direct me to an instance where CoA Barrier is used around a Blade i will debate it and try to refute it.. Haki Swordsmanship path diverge quite a bit from the main Haki path..

 

[Kiri]

It's not that it went over my head, it's getting away from my point.. Martial Art have nothing to substract whereas Swordsmanship you have an accessory in your hand, if you remove it and no touch AdCoC clash bare fist the result is identical.. The Sword is irrelevant..


I don't think they would, but lets say they would, replace the Swords with Hassaikai and Takeru, it's the same outcome that's my argument.. It's not Swordsmanship if Blades can't distinguish themself from other weapons or weaponless..

Cause you're moving goalpost to '' named '' attacks when my example is a no name no touch AdCoC clash.. But you're right if they were named attacks it would most likely be Swordsmanship..


Well CoA Barrier has not been shown to exist for Swordsmen, that's a CoA skill for non weapon users, if you can direct me to an instance where CoA Barrier is used around a Blade i will debate it and try to refute it.. Haki Swordsmanship path diverge quite a bit from the main Haki path..

"Well CoA Barrier has not been shown to exist for Swordsmen"

"if you can direct me to an instance where CoA Barrier is used around a Blade i will debate it and try to refute it.. " alright these statements just show me you're admitting to being closed minded, to being locked into a position for whatever reason. Because you don't want it to be related to swordsmanship or the path of swordsmanship as you describe

But I also want to address something in these spoilers coming up, in relation to a clash we already saw, theres been 3 instances now of this happening and it's all very similar, and it can definitely answer your asking of coa barriers, until then

 

[Rootbeer]

"Well CoA Barrier has not been shown to exist for Swordsmen"

"if you can direct me to an instance where CoA Barrier is used around a Blade i will debate it and try to refute it.. " alright these statements just show me you're admitting to being closed minded, to being locked into a position for whatever reason. Because you don't want it to be related to swordsmanship or the path of swordsmanship as you describe

But I also want to address something in these spoilers coming up, in relation to a clash we already saw, theres been 3 instances now of this happening and it's all very similar, and it can definitely answer your asking of coa barriers, until then

My goal isn't to be close minded, it's just i went over this subject with Zoro fans before.. I'm not aware of CoA Barrier being used on Swords..

There's King blowing himself up and Zoro say he put up his armament just in time.. He just Hardened his Blades as usual..
Fishman Island, Zoro states to Hyouzou he let him escape his '' Barrier '', but that was referring to his CoO..
On the rooftop against Hakai, Zoro just used base CoA on his Blade to block really briefly the attack.. It wasn't CoA Barrier, base CoA Haki grasp the whole attack just the same way as base CoA grasps the whole Body of a Logia.. Aside these 3 examples, i don't remember but there were others i think..

I'm not aware of what you're trying to imply for the latter part..

 

[DonWick]

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