Questions & Mysteries What agenda does Ryokugyu's black blade hurt?

#23
just some ideas

- why can't aramaki have armament haki as good as issho has observation haki? fujitora has the most advanced observation seen in the series yet, at least in terms of range. much more than full island range like eneru. space range. if aramaki were also a haki specialist to back up his df, why not armament?
- the black blade is probably related to his dead wife/girlfriend referenced in the lovers suicide tattoo. i would assume it's her sword. maybe he has a backstory like zoro's and how his sword turned black will be a hint for how Wado will turn black.
- black blades are likely to be related to something other than armament haki anyway. soul, inherited will, fulfilling a promise made in death, something like that.
 
#25
just some ideas

- why can't aramaki have armament haki as good as issho has observation haki? fujitora has the most advanced observation seen in the series yet, at least in terms of range. much more than full island range like eneru. space range. if aramaki were also a haki specialist to back up his df, why not armament?
- the black blade is probably related to his dead wife/girlfriend referenced in the lovers suicide tattoo. i would assume it's her sword. maybe he has a backstory like zoro's and how his sword turned black will be a hint for how Wado will turn black.
- black blades are likely to be related to something other than armament haki anyway. soul, inherited will, fulfilling a promise made in death, something like that.
Wado will turn black in a battle against the world's strongest swordswoman, Washigi
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Shanks and Roger have literally reached the top of the verse as swordsmen through pure Haki.

Only non-swordsman with better Haki is potentially prime Garp
Yeah if Garp equaled Roger in a fight then he probably had a bit stronger haki, since Roger had a sword and Garp used just hands
 
#26
The fact that admirals are more invested in fruits despite being trained in all category just shows the superiority of a devil fruit over anything else, a Blackbade is strong but a devil fruit is the pinnacle of the series.

Fuji and Bull are more invested in devil fruits when they could’ve mastered the sword
(Bull already mastered the sword)

Z-Boys are insanely at threat by bull and Hawkeye doesn’t look as fierce anymore with his basic black blade.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#27
They love to overlook the fact marimo needed unlock CoC to in wano we know everything he picks up will help him get closer to Mihawk forging his own kokuto. The admiral twerkers know twerkbull does not have one single quality as conqueror hence why they make kokutos all about CoA. When the lies catch up with them we get to see more of that bum watch them change their tunes :milaugh:
They don't understand one simple thing - we cannot lose.
Whether it is CoA or CoC, it doesn't matter to use. It is an achievement above the power of the handful of the strongest.
They only get to pick whether their fave is weaker than Mihawk due to CoA or due to CoC. :catlewd:
 

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#29
Some people act as if making a black blade is what makes Mihawk and Ryuma stand out, so an admiral achieving it as a side quest obviously hurts that agenda. It's high time people accept black blade as nothing more than just another power upgrade. It's not beyond top-tiers to achieve it. It's just another FS or something.

Getting a black blade meaning something for Zoro though. Because he inherited Enma from Oden, and it's been directly implied he died before achieving it, so Zoro doing it would signify that Zoro surpassed him.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#31
and it's been directly implied he died before achieving it, so Zoro doing it would signify that Zoro surpassed him.
No, Oden stated he has reached his peak. He couldn't get stronger.
Black Blade was out of his reach, regardless of how long he could have lived.
As is the case for all others.

It's high time people accept black blade as nothing more than just another power upgrade. It's not beyond top-tiers to achieve it. It's just another FS or something.
Then why is it coming after aCoC, the power only a handful can do?
It is directly implied it is beyond those handful of strongest.
 
#32
In theory it doesn't hurt any agendas- In fact it helps them. Or, well, it helps the Mihawk/sword agenda in particular, since Aramaki having a black blade means that someone else forged a black blade and yet Mihawk still has the strongest sword in the world and is also stronger than the person who forged the other black blade.
The only reason it'd hurt the agenda is because certain people like to push the (admittedly stupid) idea that forging a black blade means you're the cream of the crop in terms of swordsmanship, and that anyone who hasn't forged one is below you. That results in takes like Mihawk > Roger which is... Just horrible to say the least.
Forging a black blade was literally only exscuse those fans had in order to put Mihawk above likes of Roger and his equals ( Whitebeard , Garp , Sengoku ) so how exactly did not hurt any agenda ?

Mihawk being above Aramaki was never in any serious doubt.
 
#34
Ztards use black blades to argue Mihawk > Roger and to argue that Mihawk has the greatest haki in the verse for doing it when Shanks couldn't, both would be instantly negged if Ryokugyu made one as A. he's obviously weaker than Roger and B. was made Shanks bitch just from a little haki flex
 
#36
Black blade not correlating to overall strength has nothing to do with Mihawk > Shanks.
Maybe not.

But it still ends up completely shitting on the one feat that made Mihawk stand out, and one of the endgame benchmarks of Zoro.

What distinguishes Mihawk from Shanks or any other top tier swordsman at this point? Just better haki and/or skill, pretty much fully unrelated to black blade? Yawn...
 
#37
Maybe not.

But it still ends up completely shitting on the one feat that made Mihawk stand out, and one of the endgame benchmarks of Zoro.

What distinguishes Mihawk from Shanks or any other top tier swordsman at this point? Just better haki and/or skill, pretty much fully unrelated to black blade? Yawn...
What makes Mihawk stand out is that he has the title of the strongest swordsman. We don't even know his fighting style so it's weird to make assumptions about how generic he will be.
 
#39
1. If Greenbull IS NOT the forger - hurts the Admiral agenda.

2. If Greenbull IS the forger - hurts the Admiral agenda and Mihawk agenda.
-means an Admiral who has a black blade + logia failed to be the WSS
-what makes Mihawk special will be seen as less special


WSS is still Mihawk though, and not any of the Figarland rats.

Mihawk + Adult S-Hawk > Shanks + Pranks

:finally:
 
#40
BB are clearly an haki feat, something that for reasons to be determined not Roger, not Shanks, not WB, not Odem managed to achieve.
That doesn't change anyway and just means one more time the people are unable to read and Ryokugyu gave then a big slap, as always. Double standards come biting back.

However, I agree that having a BB doesn't mean automatically stronger. Same way no haki does.
 
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