Speculations What is Gaban's role going to be ?

Worst

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The man himself! Silvers Rayleigh was introduced at quite the crucial point in the story!


He showed up when the main characters were about to start facing challenges on a totally different level ( going to the new world ) and the world of One Piece was about to be greatly shocked ( Marineford )!

Quite similarly The Left Hand of the Pirate King Scopper Gaban is also introduced at another crucial moment in the story!


While they are now a Yonko crew and, in theory, don't have much to actually fear, they are about to face challenges on a different level than before, which is quite crazy! They have to acquire the One Piece, face the World Government (in theory, the greatest enemy), deal with Teach, and who knows what else! And again, because of these, the world of One Piece is about to be shocked once more (as if the Egghead event and the recent fall of two Yonkos wasn't shocking enough xD).

Ray Ray had a mentor role for Luffy. He had to prepare him to face these challenges. At that point, while similar to Roger in Rayleigh's eyes, Luffy was merely a candidate (which he, of course, decided to bet on and train)!

While Gaban immediately also saw Roger in Luffy, he met the man who was able to face and beat those challenges—the man who beat Kaido AND looks like the freaking Sun God. More than anyone, to Gaban, Luffy is even more clearly the one they were waiting for. I don't think he's testing his strength since he already proved to be quite knowledgeable of Luffy's latest accomplishments (Kaido's defeat happened like yesterday xD). I feel like he is testing his resolve (and maybe just having a little fun).

So now I wonder... what is his role gonna be? Even if he is the man with the burning scar, it would probably be quite lame for him to just hand over the Road Poneglyph and dip out, right? He's definitely here for a bigger purpose, and I believe, like Rayleigh, he will play a key role in preparing Luffy/The SHs for the real deal!

What do you guys think?
 

nik87

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#2
I am pretty sure Gaban is not the man with burn scar, handing over the last RPG is too much of a plot armor, even for Luffy.
You do make an interesting observation that both Ray and Gaban appeared in crucial moment of the story.
Elbaf is kinda a lot like Sabaody, a pit stop before a big event in the world and both have a legendary member of Roger Pirates.

Rayleigh's purpose on Sabaody was to save the Strawhats from Kizaru.
Gaban's purpose could be the same on Elbaf.

You could say the SHs are 100 times stronger now than on Sabaody and while it is true, it is not hard to get them in a situation where they would need help again. Shanks' lookalike can easily get a jump on Luffy and take him out in one move. While Oda treats Zoro well and doesnt allow such powerhouse to be beaten in a fair 1vs1, there are plenty of unfair ways to take out Zoro too.

Sabaody had strongest Marine unit on the move, the Admiral while Elbaf has the strongest WG unit on the move, the Holy Knights.
Sabaody had Strawhats separated through Kuma's ability while Elbaf could separate them through magic summoning circle.

In the end, Gaban is a legendary powerhouse, just like Rayliegh whose purpose might be to make the Holy Knights back off.
 

Worst

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I am pretty sure Gaban is not the man with burn scar, handing over the last RPG is too much of a plot armor, even for Luffy.
You do make an interesting observation that both Ray and Gaban appeared in crucial moment of the story.
Elbaf is kinda a lot like Sabaody, a pit stop before a big event in the world and both have a legendary member of Roger Pirates.

Rayleigh's purpose on Sabaody was to save the Strawhats from Kizaru.
Gaban's purpose could be the same on Elbaf.

You could say the SHs are 100 times stronger now than on Sabaody and while it is true, it is not hard to get them in a situation where they would need help again. Shanks' lookalike can easily get a jump on Luffy and take him out in one move. While Oda treats Zoro well and doesnt allow such powerhouse to be beaten in a fair 1vs1, there are plenty of unfair ways to take out Zoro too.

Sabaody had strongest Marine unit on the move, the Admiral while Elbaf has the strongest WG unit on the move, the Holy Knights.
Sabaody had Strawhats separated through Kuma's ability while Elbaf could separate them through magic summoning circle.

In the end, Gaban is a legendary powerhouse, just like Rayliegh whose purpose might be to make the Holy Knights back off.
Idk i feel like it would be a bit repetitive ? Rayleigh said he was gonna lose to Teach because of his old age, Gaban is surely no different, not to say he's weak or anything but yeah SHs are 100 time stronger, Egghead was a dangerous situation but the WG sent the big guns xD

So unless Loki is a beast beyond that ( which would be scary ) i don't think the HK alone are enough to puth the SHs AND the whole Elbaf in danger since they're clearly below the Elders ( in fact they're chosing strategy / tactics over brutal force ) unless ofc they can do some shenanigans with the magic circle as u said....

Also Gaban could still be a mentor like figure though but maybe to navigate some of the world secrets rather than actual training! I'm curious cuz it's definetly be something big!

I am pretty sure Gaban is not the man with burn scar, handing over the last RPG is too much of a plot armor, even for Luffy.
Yeah tha's the most conflicting part, but if you think about it even if he's him, do you rally think it will be something as simple as " damn you're really strong as they said! Here's the last poneglyph btw good luck! " I mean they met Rayleigh xD He could've just told them how to get there so it obviously won't be anything like that if he's the one
 

Worst

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He’s the man marked by flames imo, so his primary purpose is to give them the RP tho I hope he doesn’t just outright gift it to them. Make the SHs work for it
Yeah if it's him it won't be as simple for sure xD


Train Luffy to give him a power up then give him the location of the final poneglyph.
aside from that maybe he teaches something Luffy is missing? We know Luffy is not strong enough to go against Imu as he can barely handle his subordinates.

It might seem a lot for us but the SHs have been in the new world for how long ? 2 - 3 months at most ? Things are changing rapidly in the OP verse, so there's no really time for training ( or to do a proper training ) AND beating the final demon according to the painting it's a group effort!
 
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Yeah if it's him it won't be as simple for sure xD






It might seem a lot for us but the SHs have been in the new world for how long ? 2 - 3 months at most ? Things are changing rapidly in the OP verse, so there's no really time for training ( or to do a proper training ) AND beating the final demon according to the painting it's a group effort!
I mean in normal Shonen format Oda can pull a Bankai room or hyperbolic time chamber, and Luffy can level up in just two or three days
 
#8
Combat wise only 2 tings come to mind:
- Power of D’s that will enable Luffy to hurt Imu & the Goro Sei (i.e might be too early for this but given the flow of the current events, I’m almost certain a Gorosei will come to Elbaf, most likely Garling)
- Another application of CoC or Haki in general to bring him one step closer to Shanks

Others:
- Almost certain he’s the man marked by flames so the last road poneglyph
- Some crucial navigation info for getting to Laugh Tale.
 
#9
Yeah if it's him it won't be as simple for sure xD






It might seem a lot for us but the SHs have been in the new world for how long ? 2 - 3 months at most ? Things are changing rapidly in the OP verse, so there's no really time for training ( or to do a proper training ) AND beating the final demon according to the painting it's a group effort!
I don’t expect him to take months to teach Luffy a PU. It took Luffy less than 2 weeks to learn infusion haki and hours to learn adCoC

I think the SHs can chill for a week or so in elbaf to train and then move on. After all they do need some time for the log posses to calibrate
 

Worst

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I mean in normal Shonen format Oda can pull a Bankai room or hyperbolic time chamber, and Luffy can level up in just two or three days
Combat wise only 2 tings come to mind:
- Power of D’s that will enable Luffy to hurt Imu & the Goro Sei (i.e might be too early for this but given the flow of the current events, I’m almost certain a Gorosei will come to Elbaf, most likely Garling)
- Another application of CoC or Haki in general to bring him one step closer to Shanks
I don’t expect him to take months to teach Luffy a PU. It took Luffy less than 2 weeks to learn infusion haki and hours to learn adCoC

I think the SHs can chill for a week or so in elbaf to train and then move on. After all they do need some time for the log posses to calibrate
U all agree on some sort of training uh.....:DeepThink:

Idk i feel like it would be a bit repetitive cuz Rayleigh already filled that role and i think Gaban will ( should ) fill a different one again maybe still in the mentor like category but not necessarily a ' i'll teach you how to get stronger ' role ( if anything i think the SHs would benefit much more if the weaker SHs would make some progress cuz in the Elders fight they'd be hopeless )
 
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U all agree on some sort of training uh.....:DeepThink:

Idk i feel like it would be a bit repetitive cuz Rayleigh already filled that role and i think Gaban will ( should ) fill a different one again maybe still in the mentor like category but not necessarily a ' i'll teach you how to get stronger ' role ( if anything i think the SHs would benefit much more if the weaker SHs would make some progress cuz in the Elders fight they'd be hopeless )
It’s fair to say it feels repetitive but that’s the nature of Oda’s writing, he loves repeating shit but with different settings
 
#12
U all agree on some sort of training uh.....:DeepThink:

Idk i feel like it would be a bit repetitive cuz Rayleigh already filled that role and i think Gaban will ( should ) fill a different one again maybe still in the mentor like category but not necessarily a ' i'll teach you how to get stronger ' role ( if anything i think the SHs would benefit much more if the weaker SHs would make some progress cuz in the Elders fight they'd be hopeless )
I think the SHs (for the most part) all getting power ups here to prepare for the upcoming BB Pirates fight.

Robin can learn actual giant fighting techniques from a brawling giant like Saul to work with her giant forms

Franky can use more Adam tree wood to make the ultimate sunny fighting robot

Chopper idk maybe some giant medicine will help his monster point

Luffy gets trained by scopper

Zoro and Sanji just figure some shit out.
 
#16
Holy knights about to take his kid hostage and he's gonna train the strawhats? There's no time for a training arc nor a timeskip.

Loki is bleeding to death, Gaban fights Luffy, another HK about to arrive, Luffys gonna go to Loki while others go to HK. Fights happen. Gaban gives hint to last poneglyph if he's burn scar man or he just goes back to retirement/dies.
 
#17
Yonko Luffy isn't getting trained by Gaban

Gaban is here to explain lores while Rayleigh was introduced to train Luffy
Gaban will give them RP copy while Rayleigh coated their ship
Gaban might also coat their ship
 
#18
Gaban is clearly not an auxiliary character like Rayleigh


He has a kid that will probably kidnapped by stabs, could be the Mmbf, mosa, does personally know: King Harald, Loki and so on

For all we know might not train anyone
 
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