Powers & Abilities What is Shanks?

[Rivaille]

This translation is not the correct one.

On the red it says: '' In the past he was a rival of Mihawk, which can conclude that his sword skills are among the best in the world ''
The word 'swordsman' is not said.
They were rivals in the past, they were supposed to dispute the WSS title when the Shanks still had their original arm.

But the word '' your sword skills are among the best in the world '' doesn't mean shit.
Kizaru has sword skills among the best in the world and he does not dispute the WSS title
Big mom has sword skills among the best in the world and she does not dispute the WSS title
Aokiji has sword skills among the best in the world and he does not dispute the WSS title


The fact that Shanks has sword skills does not make him compete for the WSS title. After Shanks lost his arm, he no longer disputes the title because Mihawk believes that without his arm he is not the same swordsman as before (this is indeed true). Mihawk is no longer interested in Shanks and Shanks is no longer interested in Mihawk. The Shanks became yonkou even though their sword skills were below the Mihawk, which clearly indicates that the Shanks acquired secondary power, parallel to the sword skills.

How do you know that my translation is not the correct one? Do you have the sentence in Japanese?

They are still rivals. That is why everytime we have the character relationship chart, it is said that they are rivals.

The fact that he competes or not for the WSS title is totally irrelevant. Shanks (or anyone else for that matter)never compete to be the WSM or the WSC, does that mean that he was stronger than WB or is stronger than Kaido?

The Yonko title is not a strength base title which why Luffy can be considered to be an emperor. So the fact that he became an emperor after losing his arm is not a proof that he gained a new power. In fact, we canonicaly have a hint on how Shanks became an emperor after losing his arm, and it is because his commanders are stronger than the average one which is why they were highlighted in the marines meeting.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Garp and Chinjao are still rivals then, despite them not fighting in 3 decades

What kind of rivals do not fight anymore?

The chart only shows what the people were known for.

Mihawk and Shanks are past rivals, shanks current strength doesn't boost Mihawk at all since both havent fought for 12+ years.

 

[Don DaSlayer]

Shanks is the WSS
The World’s Strongest Snitch.

 

[Finalbeta]

Shanks is the WSS
The World’s Strongest Snitch.

Haha so he is both WSS and second to WSS

What a magic

 

[trav]

below Mihawk

 

[Albino 👑]

Hes the guy that gave luffy his strawhat
One of the reasons usopp doesn't have a father
A top tier with 1 arm

 

[MasterD]

This looks like a very philosophical question so let me ask you this:
How are we? Why are we attracted by anime? What is our place in the univers? Why can't man just walk in a straight line and gets lost? Are we alone in the univers? Why do we like one piece? What is the purpose of life? Why am I a zoro fan?

Shanks is a master haki swordsman


Edit how can a bee fly when science says it's impossible for it to do it

 

[Finalbeta]

This looks like a very philosophical question so let me ask you this:
How are we? Why are we attracted by anime? What is our place in the univers? Why can't man just walk in a straight line and gets lost? Are we alone in the univers? Why do we like one piece? What is the purpose of life? Why am I a zoro fan?

Shanks is a master haki swordsman


Edit how can a bee fly when science says it's impossible for it to do it

You are a Zoro fan because he is not just a badass power house, but also a life model I bet : D

 

[beardweird]

One important factor has been overlooked: he was duelling with Mihawk before he lost an arm. The loss of his arm is way below Yonko-level, indeed way below normal power levels as they are displayed now. The main point is, he has become way stronger since the time of his duels (and maybe also that not everything is strictly logical and can be inferred from old comparisons).

But aside from that, it is pure nonsense to force to say that him duelling on par with Mihawk means he would be weaker when not restricted to a sword... Many fighters use more than one way to fight. Big Mom would be weaker if she could use only her sword. At least a sword master who has the same strength would be superior to her in technique. There is no reason to assume otherwise except "Yonko magic" which makes everything happen but is not a real fact. Consider for exmple Rayleigh or Kizaru against someone who fights only with a sword and is the same in strength. Surely they would switch over at some point to other means. While this might not discount them by some pedantic definition as sword fighters, it might simply not let the duel count.

 

[Paperchampion23]

One important factor has been overlooked: he was duelling with Mihawk before he lost an arm. The loss of his arm is way below Yonko-level, indeed way below normal power levels as they are displayed now. The main point is, he has become way stronger since the time of his duels (and maybe also that not everything is strictly logical and can be inferred from old comparisons).

But aside from that, it is pure nonsense to force to say that him duelling on par with Mihawk means he would be weaker when not restricted to a sword... Many fighters use more than one way to fight. Big Mom would be weaker if she could use only her sword. At least a sword master who has the same strength would be superior to her in technique. There is no reason to assume otherwise except "Yonko magic" which makes everything happen but is not a real fact.

That's the thing that gets me, like nobody seems to understand that he lost an arm, then became a 4 billion bounty Yonko 4 years after this event lol.

This thread is trying to justify something we have no evidence for. We've never seen Shanks get serious, nor Mihawk. We've never seen what both can do beyond the feats displayed. It's pretty much unfair to say Shanks is "weaker than Mihawk" because youve only seen him use his sword for 1 clash with Whitebeard (who used his Bisento) and to stop Akainu's Magma fist like nothing.


I'm just saying, you want to "compare" feats, Mihawk even says when trying to attack Whitebeard in Marineford: "I just want to measure, the true distance between that man and us". And then he had his attack stopped by fucking Joz. Other than this, Mihawk cut a frozen total wave (which was amazing btw) and fought Vista, whom he didn't try to defeat. Shanks, while I don't argue that they are of similar strength in a way, has been shown way more feats of importance to the story. He clashed with Whitebeard, the same man Mihawk "couldn't" touch. He stopped Akainu point blank. He stopped that entire war with his 10 crewmembers alone. The dude or someone in his crew nearly tore off more than just an arm from Kid.

Are we really going to devolve yet another thread to "shit" on Shanks even though the man became a Yonko with one arm?


Edit: I'm going to laugh when Mihawk just up and partners with Shanks as his 11th crewmember because its clear that's where the Shichibukai plotline is going with him. Mihawk has no other direction in the story, save for his relationship with Shanks, and the Marines won't stop chasing after him. Be prepared for them to be buddy buddy now lol.

 

[Gran D. Master]

A hakiman who uses a sword as a supplementary tool for his hakimanship.

The reason he isn't the WSS is because the referee disqualified him for using TOO MUCH haki during his fight with Mihawk for the title.

 

[HA001]

A hakiman who uses a sword as a supplementary tool for his hakimanship.

The reason he isn't the WSS is because the referee disqualified him for using TOO MUCH haki during his fight with Mihawk for the title.

The funniest thing is if zoro leaves wano with the nidai he will have 2 new swords.
Apart from wado for personal reasons swords are just tools to channel his haki and power. This bonding with the sword nonsense makes no sense when zoro goes through more swords than anyone.
Apparently zoro will bond more with enma in months than oden did in over 2 decades. Figure that one out.
Oden had 2 swords all his life. Zoro just from what we know in story is almost on double figures. I bet shanks has had gryphon for years too.
But spirit of the swordsman and all that shit.

 

[Natalija]

Edit: I'm going to laugh when Mihawk just up and partners with Shanks as his 11th crewmember because its clear that's where the Shichibukai plotline is going with him. Mihawk has no other direction in the story, save for his relationship with Shanks, and the Marines won't stop chasing after him. Be prepared for them to be buddy buddy now lol.

I live for this to happen, love their bromance ~ :dogood: