What was the last movie you watched?

Mathias

Mathias

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ShinmenTakezo said:
Fincher is very dependent on the qualify of the source material, but regardless, to call him average is a bit exaggerated. He has a distinctive style that can work with some stories, with some it does not fit as much.
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There are many talented directors in the world who do great thriller/drama films. It looks like Fincher may just be one of those. But maybe he was one of the firsts to make films like that, I don’t know enough about this.

As for the quality of the source material aka the scenario. He’s responsable for choosing a good one I guess.
 
ShinmenTakezo

ShinmenTakezo

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Mathias said:
There are many talented directors in the world who do great thriller/drama films. It looks like Fincher may just be one of those. But maybe he was one of the firsts to make films like that, I don’t know enough about this.

As for the quality of the source material aka the scenario. He’s responsable for choosing a good one I guess.
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Give me a few examples. Of course there are other good/great directors who do thrillers well but that does not make Fincher average if he excels at that occasionally when the circumstances are right.

Sure, ultimately it is the director's responsibility.
He probably does not choose his movies based on the compatibility with his style but rather what he finds interesting, and sometimes that happens to be something like social network written by Sorkin adapted from a great book, and sometimes it happens to be a lackluster script like Mank.
 
Mathias

Mathias

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ShinmenTakezo said:
Give me a few examples.
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I believe there are many equivalent films that come out every now and then. I couldn’t make the list that I wanted but here is a tiny one


Law of Tehran
La Isla Minima
Night crawler
El Reino
Memories of Murder
Black Swan
Drive
Incendies

Films by:
Alex Garland
Jordan Peele
Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck

Half of them have only become famous after or way after that movie. Meanwhile every single one of Fincher’s films is anticipated to be the next Seven. It’s the same with Ridley Scott.
 
ShinmenTakezo

ShinmenTakezo

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Mathias said:
I believe there are many equivalent films that come out every now and then. I couldn’t make the list that I wanted but here is a tiny one


Law of Tehran
La Isla Minima
Night crawler
El Reino
Memories of Murder
Black Swan
Drive
Incendies

Films by:
Alex Garland
Jordan Peele
Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck

Half of them have only become famous after or way after that movie. Meanwhile every single one of Fincher’s films is anticipated to be the next Seven. It’s the same with Ridley Scott.
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Haven´t seen the first two (put Law of Tehran on my watchlist, I have recently seen Leila´s Brothers from the same director, blew me away to be honest, though I am pre-inclined to like it since the family dynamics resembled a lot of the family of my mother), don´t know anything about the second director.
The other ones received their fair due to be honest, hence my point that I made above. Roustayi is regarded as THE next Iranian filmmaker, Nightcrawler topped many 2010s list, similarly Sorogoyen´s movies are always well received, latest movie Beasts is also among the most praised of this year, Bong Joon-Ho is brilliant and one of the hottest directors at the moment, Aronofsky one of my favorites (though not really a thriller guy), Drive and Refn I don´t like, Villeneuve is also well known after Sicario and Arrival (Incendies was great up to the end, the twist took me out of it).
Garland I agree, Peele and Donnersmarck have done one great movie each, and both seemed pretty circumstantial to me, the latter already benefits from a very emotional setting and also from 10 years of production, the former from an adaptation of a known setup with a racial twist.
Except Bong, Aronofsky and maybe Villeneuve none have the body of work Fincher has to be honest, even if he has lows.
And I disagree, even with cult classics like Fight Club and Seven, Fincher movies do not have that standing anymore in the 2010s. For Mank he was nominated for Director Oscar only because the academy likes movies about themselves and filmmaking, most of the time at least... Babylon...
I wholeheartedly agree regarding Ridley Scott though :kobeha:, for me actually one of the most overrated directors of all time.
 
Jaguark101

Jaguark101

"Freedom is the right of all sentient beings"
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"How do you live" (2023). 4/5. Miyazaki's potential last film? Anyway, good voice acting and animation. That being said I feel this one isn't as straightforward to follow as compared to his other films, there are some themes of "grief" and "moving on" in the story but I don't think I was able to properly understand the film.
 
Jew D. Boy

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
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Just watched Bronson for the second time (and the first since I reached the point of “getting” Nicholas Winding Refn’s work instead of merely observing it), Tom Hardy’s performance is truly remarkable - at turns jovial, terrifying, pitiful, unhinged, goofy, and physically intimidating throughout. 8/10, the pace feels a little slow in the middle but every other aspect was phenomenal or close enough to it :goyea:
 
Charlie

Charlie

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Watched Wonka and tbh, I expected something way worse. They changed Wonka's backstory (i think) so maybe ultra fans will be mad, but it was heartwarming story, sometimes even funny. I could see parents taking their kids to see that. Unless they're afraid kids will only want to eat chocolate later on.
 
Kizaruber Eats

Kizaruber Eats

Espada? Espadeez nuts.
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Ruby Gillman : Teenage Kraken - 5/10 at best.

Absolute mid of a movie at best, I really regret watching it. In fact less than mid in hindsight now too.

Animation and art hard carried it but the plot was so generic, awful and thus cliche and lazy. Some characters were really obnoxiously written and more like "zoomer/gen Z" with the language they used to but Ruby's parents, uncle and grandmother were decently written I guess, despite being a female focused movie, the male characters were the best ones by far ironically and quite funny and endearing, especially the Sea Captain and Ruby's father and uncle.

This film deserved a lot better and maybe should have been made a series instead as some say. I loved some character designs like Ruby and her family but the writing for the mermaids and the design of the ONLY Mermaid was a blatant jab at Ariel (Dreamworks vs Disney, the tale as old as time) was absolutely terrible. The fact we don't even see other mermaids and the film goes the more obvious cliches/twists really makes it deeply insulting too. Unironically justified racism and thus ignorance too.

The more I think about it, the more I want to lower the score lmfao, genuinely one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

I thought Ruby was pretty likeable though, she was lovingly designed and animated and had a sweet, nice romance with the guy whose name I've forgotten now ironically lmao. Connor I think? The sea captain was very funny, with his hilarious crab companion (not Sebasatian nor does it talk or sing funnily enough) and he realises he was wrong and tries to make amends at least but the grandma who is racist ends up being proven right and justified though.

I really wanted to like this as I love mermaids and some things relating to the ocean and water but this was a huge letdown anyway, some of Dreamwork's worst. It's no wonder they barely marketed it and it flopped so hard. Sad thing is, the animators really worked hard on this and did a spectacular job and so did the artists. The voice acting was great too. Music was passable too, did the job.

Coming from Puss In Boots: The Last Wish as the last film I saw by them, this is like night and day though, opposite ends of the spectrum in quality, entertainment, value and such.
 
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