Luffy was 100% right not to go chasing after Ace at the time Zoro was talking about.
At that point the crew had no idea that Ace had fought Blackbeard, that he’d been handed to the Marines or that he’d been sentenced to death. All they knew was that Ace’s Vivre Card was fucked up, which meant that somewhere in the world something had happened to Ace that put his life in danger.
It was after, in Amazon Lily when Luffy had actual information, that he decided to go after Ace.
So yeah, I do see the similarities in the two situations.
i mean if it was cap then they wouldnt have listened to him and then try to rescue vivi , pretty sure oda had ace's death in mind since thats the first thing which will pop up while reading the dialogue .
We do know that because that is what happened. If he went after Ace, whether Ace was with Blackbeard or Impel Down, Luffy would still fail. He only had the chance of rescue because of the war. Especially knowing that they did not know where Ace was except for where the vivre card points
Did you expect them to randomly find Bonney inside a water vortex in the middle of the ocean with no context at all?
Yet, here we are.
I expect Oda to drop some clue for them if they try to investigate it.
Robin, Sanji and Luffy have ties to the Revo Army.
It's not a stretch for Oda say that Robin knows a way to contact them. They could try ask Sabo.
Then it would have them learn about Sabo disappearance after revealing someone at the throne room.
If you say Ace died because of Luffy that's fucking dumb because Luffy literally saved him. If Ace didn't let himself get trolled by Akainu then he wouldn't have even been in the position to get it because of the paper, nor would Luffy. In fact, you could say that Ace trying to fight Akainu almost got LUFFY killed, not the other way around.
> Oda wanted Zoro to have his vc moment.
> He wrote in that piece of dialogue (which Luffy acknowledges, hence why the "you got me!" face.)
> The dialogue is retarded for some weird call back moment, even though characters in verse pretend its not.
The only conclusion you can draw from this is that Oda is retarded, which most of us already know. He sees Zoro as VC, that much is undeniable.