Questions & Mysteries When did Kid's fan become this arrogant?

It's not really arrogance, but a lack of understanding where Oda is going to have to make a choice for whats best on the narrative imo. This goes for any fanbase.

Fundamentally, i just wish "fandoms" in any capacity would understand this fact, because there are 2 basic "rules" that Oda follows with this plot:

1. Luffy defeats the villain of an arc (i dont need to explain why this was a detriment to a certain fandom)

2. Characters with narrative importance are king in this story and are always reserved for major arcs (i.e. people didnt believe Vegapunk or Kuma would get a focused arc/plotline)

If you understand this, then it's VERY easy to understand why neither Blackbeard or Shanks can lose these encounters. Take away the powerscaling logic (which doesnt make much sense since neither Law or Kid beat BM alone...), and just think about the narrative. NOTHING will make Oda have his two most "hyped" competitors for One Piece lose before Luffy encounters them.

They are far too important, far more than Law and Kid in terms of how they impact the plot, to lose and be made irrelevant. Kid of all characters is not surpassing Shanks before Luffy is shown to be.
 
It's not really arrogance, but a threshold where Oda is going to have to make a choice for whats best on the narrative.

Fundamentally, i just wish "fandoms" in any capacity would understand this fact, because there are 2 basic "rules" that Oda follows with this plot:

1. Luffy defeats the villain of an arc (i dont need to explain why this was a detriment to a certain fandom)

2. Characters with narrative importance are king in this story and are always reserved for major arcs (i.e. people didnt believe Vegapunk or Kuma would get a focused arc/plotline)

If you understand this, then it's VERY easy to understand why neither Blackbeard or Shanks can lose these encounters. Take away the powerscaling logic (which doesnt make much sense since neither Law or Kid beat BM alone...), and just think about the narrative. NOTHING will make Oda have his two most "hyped" competitors for One Piece lose before Luffy encounters them.

They are far too important, far more than Law and Kid in terms of how they impact the plot, to lose and be made irrelevant. Kid of all characters is not surpassing Shanks before Luffy is shown to be.
Stop lumping Teach with Shanks please

Luffy meeting Shanks means he has to give the hat. It's not happening
Narrative is against Shanks not kid.
Narrative says : New Gen/ WorstGen surpassing old ones

The only argument you have is "Shanks is a major character linked to Luffy, no way he doesn't win here "

BTW since when Shanks is the villain of any arc which has Luffy ?
Luffy isn't even there. Elbaf doesn't seem like Shanks territory either since that's just the costal village. Not even the main cities of Elbaf.
 
shows how much faith you don't have fir your own character.
Felt that.

Been a lone Lucci army since Egghead started, everyone wanted Luffy to one shot him, make him scared, ZoLo to solo him and Kaku together lmfao

At the end of the day my love for Lucci prevails, I hoped he would team up with Straw Hat and it came true
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Goda is good
 
I know if Kid land a hit on Shanks world will burn

it was fine when Killer landed a hit to Kaido
it was fine when Kid landed many hits on Kaido
it was fine when Kid did so much damage to Big Mom

but somehow Shanks should be untouchable ... well ... honestly, somehow this actually makes sense
 
Felt that.

Been a lone Lucci army since Egghead started, everyone wanted Luffy to one shot him, make him scared, ZoLo to solo him and Kaku together lmfao

At the end of the day my love for Lucci prevails, I hoped he would team up with Straw Hat and it came true
:endthis:
Goda is good
that's how the fandom should always treat their favorite character regardless of their flaws instead of switching up when things don't meet that fan expectations. Their too focus on the power that character has instead of what that character is.
 
I know if Kid land a hit on Shanks world will burn

it was fine when Killer landed a hit to Kaido
it was fine when Kid landed many hits on Kaido
it was fine when Kid did so much damage to Big Mom

but somehow Shanks should be untouchable ... well ... honestly, somehow this actually makes sense
Kaido and Big Mom are giant monsters, one purposely gets hit frequently and the other is just slow and incompetent

Shanks will not be easy like them
 
Kaido and Big Mom are giant monsters, one purposely gets hit frequently and the other is just slow and incompetent

Shanks will not be easy like them
true ... Shanks speed alone should be beyond Kid's reach
Luffy needed all 3 advanced Haki to be a "match" for Kaido
Kid with none if fucked
unless his DF ACTUALLY effect Shanks as a swordsman
 
true ... Shanks speed alone should be beyond Kid's reach
Luffy needed all 3 advanced Haki to be a "match" for Kaido
Kid with none if fucked
unless his DF ACTUALLY effect Shanks as a swordsman
I wonder what’s the secret behind Shanks’ extreme speed? Him casually dodging that bottle WB threw at him so fast that you couldn’t even see Shanks stand up is honestly one of the best speed feats in the series
 
Stop lumping Teach with Shanks please
Ill stop when Oda stops

Luffy meeting Shanks means he has to give the hat. It's not happening
Orrrr he doesnt. Meeting Shanks doesnt really suggest he has to do shit with it. You act like narrative delivery is 1:1 literal with what happens. Returning the hat isnt some shopping transaction lmao

Narrative is against Shanks not kid.
Narrative says : New Gen/ WorstGen surpassing old ones
No its about Luffy surpassing everyone. It frankly does not matter who defeats who before or after, save the fact that BB and Shanks must encounter Luffy. If you think Oda is wasting panels on this (my profile picture for one), then you are sorely mistaken

The only argument you have is "Shanks is a major character linked to Luffy, no way he doesn't win here "

BTW since when Shanks is the villain of any arc which has Luffy ?
Luffy isn't even there. Elbaf doesn't seem like Shanks territory either since that's just the costal village. Not even the main cities of Elbaf.
Shanks is THE major character linked to Luffy. You think Kid of all people is going to wipe all of that away.

And no. Shanks is riddled with mysteries on his motivations, relationships with the WG, Roger, God Valley and now clearly Elbaf.

And Shanks is leaving Elbaf lmao. It was literally stated in the chapter. When Luffy goes there, he wont likely be there.

Im curious, are you going to call Oda a hack when your thought process doesnt pan out...again?
 
I wouldnt say arrogance, but he did beat a tanky wall who barely fought back on screen with the help of law and both having insane stamina and also got tanky with the help of convienly well placed bombs. He should logicly give shanks a challenge or BM was a fraud.
 
Ill stop when Oda stops


Orrrr he doesnt. Meeting Shanks doesnt really suggest he has to do shit with it. You act like narrative delivery is 1:1 literal with what happens. Returning the hat isnt some shopping transaction lmao


No its about Luffy surpassing everyone. It frankly does not matter who defeats who before or after, save the fact that BB and Shanks must encounter Luffy. If you think Oda is wasting panels on this (my profile picture for one), then you are sorely mistaken



Shanks is THE major character linked to Luffy. You think Kid of all people is going to wipe all of that away.

And no. Shanks is riddled with mysteries on his motivations, relationships with the WG, Roger, God Valley and now clearly Elbaf.

And Shanks is leaving Elbaf lmao. It was literally stated in the chapter. When Luffy goes there, he wont likely be there.

Im curious, are you going to call Oda a hack when your thought process doesnt pan out...again?
Like i said you have no narrative of Shanks being Luffy's next major villain
Neither him being New Gen pirate

Mysteries...relationships..doesn't matter here
We're talking about the narrative which Oda been writing : NewGen over Old Gen, NewGen fighting among themselves for the throne

The battle isn't about "Shanks is mysterious and kid isn't:
 
Like i said you have no narrative of Shanks being Luffy's next major villain
Neither him being New Gen pirate

Mysteries...relationships..doesn't matter here
We're talking about the narrative which Oda been writing : NewGen over Old Gen, NewGen fighting among themselves for the throne

The battle isn't about "Shanks is mysterious and kid isn't:
Bro, hes competing for One Piece, thats all i need to say that they can fight lol.

Shanks is willing to kill Kid. Dont assume that he and Luffy cannot have a serious fight.
 
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