General & Others When does a weapon become a sword and a man a swordsman?
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Bigmom , xebec , shanks , rocks , rayleigh , roger , fujitora , shiryu
theyre all swordsman
haki is essential for every swordsman
armament haki for better sword durability
observation for evasion and precog
and Conquerors haki for more AP
swordsmanship have varieties as well
even without df powers
some swordsmanship styles can produce fire like Kinemon
and others can produce twisters like Zoro
and swordsman can also combine their DF ability with their swordsmanship
like Law with Ope Ope DF
fuji with Gravity
shiryu with invisibility
this is not rocket science lol
this is simple
theyre all swordsman
haki is essential for every swordsman
armament haki for better sword durability
observation for evasion and precog
and Conquerors haki for more AP
swordsmanship have varieties as well
even without df powers
some swordsmanship styles can produce fire like Kinemon
and others can produce twisters like Zoro
and swordsman can also combine their DF ability with their swordsmanship
like Law with Ope Ope DF
fuji with Gravity
shiryu with invisibility
this is not rocket science lol
this is simple
Not in the manga
Haki can be a part of swordsmanship but it doesn’t have to. That applies to all fighting styles
Swordsmanship is just using a sword no matter how good or bad someone can actually use it. Characters like king, queen, big mom, kizaru, are constantly using swords but it doesn’t make them an actual swordsman
A sword duel is different then a normal battle
Haki can be a part of swordsmanship but it doesn’t have to. That applies to all fighting styles
Swordsmanship is just using a sword no matter how good or bad someone can actually use it. Characters like king, queen, big mom, kizaru, are constantly using swords but it doesn’t make them an actual swordsman
A sword duel is different then a normal battle
Not in the manga
Haki can be a part of swordsmanship but it doesn’t have to. That applies to all fighting styles
Swordsmanship is just using a sword no matter how good or bad someone can actually use it. Characters like king, queen, big mom, kizaru, are constantly using swords but it doesn’t make them an actual swordsman
A sword duel is different then a normal battle
Haki can be a part of swordsmanship but it doesn’t have to. That applies to all fighting styles
Swordsmanship is just using a sword no matter how good or bad someone can actually use it. Characters like king, queen, big mom, kizaru, are constantly using swords but it doesn’t make them an actual swordsman
A sword duel is different then a normal battle
Sword skill is not the same as “sword style”
Sword skill is basically anything anyone does with a sword. This includes The Vivre card directly saying Zoro’s KoH is a sword skill, so Zoro’s CoC abilities are counted as Zoro’s sword skills
And yes that means Xebec’s “shockwaves” and Shanks’ Kamusari and Brook’s Music, freezing, and fencing abilities are all sword skills. Yes Brook directly says his music attacks are his “Swordmanship”. This also means Kin’emon and Zoro’s fire abilities are also sword skills. As in producing fire from thin air is a sword skill.
And of course Zoro’s Ashura which makes no sense and has never been explained anywhere in the manga and no other character including top tiers has anything even slightly similar to it. This is also a sword skill
Sword skill is basically anything anyone does with a sword. This includes The Vivre card directly saying Zoro’s KoH is a sword skill, so Zoro’s CoC abilities are counted as Zoro’s sword skills
And yes that means Xebec’s “shockwaves” and Shanks’ Kamusari and Brook’s Music, freezing, and fencing abilities are all sword skills. Yes Brook directly says his music attacks are his “Swordmanship”. This also means Kin’emon and Zoro’s fire abilities are also sword skills. As in producing fire from thin air is a sword skill.
And of course Zoro’s Ashura which makes no sense and has never been explained anywhere in the manga and no other character including top tiers has anything even slightly similar to it. This is also a sword skill
If you look closely since the return of the timeskip Oda has establish that to win a fight a swordsman have to have a stronger Haki than his oppenent.
Zoro who is overall stronger than Pica could not have beat him if his Haki was weaker.
And other pint of your haki is weaker than your opponent, your weapon get cut (i.e Zoro vs Hyozou, Zoro vs Apoo, Zoro vs Kamazo, Zoro vs King)
If a swordsman does not have a stronger Haki than his opppent he cannot hurt him and thus he cannot defeat him.
Zoro who is overall stronger than Pica could not have beat him if his Haki was weaker.
And other pint of your haki is weaker than your opponent, your weapon get cut (i.e Zoro vs Hyozou, Zoro vs Apoo, Zoro vs Kamazo, Zoro vs King)
If a swordsman does not have a stronger Haki than his opppent he cannot hurt him and thus he cannot defeat him.
Ask Oda.
Pica was certain that he could beat Zoro if he has a better Haki and Zoro agreed with him on this idea.
I think that Oda introduced the concept of « a nik on the blade is a swordsman’s shame » to use a swordsman having his sword broken as a cue to his total defeat. Thing is that all the competent swordsmen put Haki on their sword which means that if you are not able to bypass your opponent Haki, you cannot cut their sword and thus you cannot defeat them.
Broke the sword of a swordsman is breaking his spirit. Which is probably why Oda had recently introduced the idea of « the beloved sword of » (thing that did not exist preskip).
For example you can say that Kinemon’s spirit was broken when Kaido destroy both of his blades.
This concept was also expanded with Shusui because the people of Wano thought that it is because Shusui was stolen that the island was suffering is current fate, as if losing the sword defeat the will of the samurais. The belief is so ingrained in them that Hiory gave away her heirloom to get it.
We can furthermore talk about the fact that in Wano every samurai has a sword made for him at his birth and his buried with it. Stealing one of this sword is seen as something blasphemous.
Reinforcing the idea that the sword is link to the swordsman on a spiritual/soul level.
Therefore the swordsman as to do everything to protect their sword which is why every swordsman in Wano knows how to flow haki from the body to the blade.
In this line of thought we can think that making a black blade is the testament of an unbreakable spirit/will forged in countless life threatening fights.
One step forward, and the conclusion is that Mihawk spirit/will is stronger than Shanks.
Obviously I can be totally wrong about all that but if making a black blade is link to spirit/will in any shape or form, it would seems obvious to me that the logical conclusion is that Mihawk as a stronger Haki than Shanks.
Pica was certain that he could beat Zoro if he has a better Haki and Zoro agreed with him on this idea.
I think that Oda introduced the concept of « a nik on the blade is a swordsman’s shame » to use a swordsman having his sword broken as a cue to his total defeat. Thing is that all the competent swordsmen put Haki on their sword which means that if you are not able to bypass your opponent Haki, you cannot cut their sword and thus you cannot defeat them.
Broke the sword of a swordsman is breaking his spirit. Which is probably why Oda had recently introduced the idea of « the beloved sword of » (thing that did not exist preskip).
For example you can say that Kinemon’s spirit was broken when Kaido destroy both of his blades.
This concept was also expanded with Shusui because the people of Wano thought that it is because Shusui was stolen that the island was suffering is current fate, as if losing the sword defeat the will of the samurais. The belief is so ingrained in them that Hiory gave away her heirloom to get it.
We can furthermore talk about the fact that in Wano every samurai has a sword made for him at his birth and his buried with it. Stealing one of this sword is seen as something blasphemous.
Reinforcing the idea that the sword is link to the swordsman on a spiritual/soul level.
Therefore the swordsman as to do everything to protect their sword which is why every swordsman in Wano knows how to flow haki from the body to the blade.
In this line of thought we can think that making a black blade is the testament of an unbreakable spirit/will forged in countless life threatening fights.
One step forward, and the conclusion is that Mihawk spirit/will is stronger than Shanks.
Obviously I can be totally wrong about all that but if making a black blade is link to spirit/will in any shape or form, it would seems obvious to me that the logical conclusion is that Mihawk as a stronger Haki than Shanks.