Chapter Discussion Whitebeard is still a big chad ! 999 explaination and how you feel about it ?

[kuzanhandsome]

This is what I fill about it.

Oda brutally killed Whitbeard's character, everything that I once liked in one piece is being destroyed. What can I tell to you.

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And you're the guy who knows Whitbeard's character? Ahhhahahaha, don't make me laugh... the only thing you know is Zoro, Zoro is your God, family, life etc. You don't exist Whiteout Zoro.

In the 999 chapters of one piece, I have never been so disappointed. I still remember the feelings when I read that chapter 576 and oda gave me a big slap

 

[spawn]

Let more crewmembers die to get revenge for a crewmate who is already dead.
Sounds pointless.

 

[critical mindset]

"What's so great about WB!!!"

Greatest warrior WB, shit running down his legs at thought of proper contest

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

The outrage simply proves that once again, many people have not actually understood what transpired and how a character was characterized and only looked at the pretty pictures.

 

[Bounty]

The legend is always bigger than the man. The reputation is always more straightforward than the nuances of reality. I think this is all that needs to be said

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

Do I like it? No.

Does it make sense? Yes.

Is Whitebeard tarnished for me? By the tinniest amount possible. Barely.

Still love the guy.

This about sums it up for me too

 

[Master OF Haki]

Let more crewmembers die to get revenge for a crewmate who is already dead.
Sounds pointless.

With the same logic there was no reason on saving Ace because they will sacrifice more crew members for one life, it doesn't make sense. Also there's no guarantee that they will succeed, as matter of fact they lost and Ace died with Whitbeard.

It's not about logic or price, it's about Whitbeard's character.

 

[kuzanhandsome]

With the same logic there was no reason on saving Ace because they will sacrifice more crew members for one life, it doesn't make sense. Also there's no guarantee that they will succeed, as matter of fact they lost and Ace died with Whitbeard.

It's not about logic or price, it's about Whitbeard's character.

The defense has only one reason and it is completely meaningless

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

WB scared of fish Crydo
LoL

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Yeah, here is the real explanation:

The One Piece world is a tiny, fragmented world where all sense of the story and islands being connected is an illusion to maintain the facade that OP is anything more than a bunch of random side stories shoehorned together under one title.

The real reason Whitebeard never did anything about Kaido, is because Oda wrote Kaido and Whitebeard’s stories separately and when he realized it was impossible to combine the two, he would rather feed us some bullshit about the Whitebeard Pirates caring about civilian casualties than shatter the illusion.

This is a testament to how bad Wano is as an Arc, it is literally so bad that it is ruining the story before it. It is GoT Season 8 level bad and it’s a shame to see this happening.

 

[Monster Luffy]

Many people assume Whitebeard is a justice warrior/marine Admiral or some sort of saint while in reality he is an Yonko who did nothing but seating peacefully on the throne. He is just a pirate. There are still few dots that have to be connected. The conversation between Shanks and Wb need to be addressed after their CoC clash. Saving Wano was left to Ace who has 'will of D' and that was emphasis of the whole chapter. This is just my guess but Whitebeard might have realized that his era is ending and new wave is coming. This is one of the reasons he saved Ace other than being his son. Unfortunately Ace died. And there is that conversation between Whitebeard and Roger.

 

[dizzy2341]

There's literally no defence or excuse for this that can't easily be disproven or countered by something else in the series.

Truly bottom tier and one of the many reasons why Wano is arguably the worst arc in the entire series. It wasn't content with just ruining years of build up, but also happily fucks up fan favourite characters and moments from over a decade ago.

 

[Formerly Seth]

There's literally no defence or excuse for this that can't easily be disproven or countered by something else in the series.

Truly bottom tier and one of the many reasons why Wano is arguably the worst arc in the entire series. It wasn't content with just ruining years of build up, but also happily fucks up fan favourite characters and moments from over a decade ago.

Yeah, basically.

Be careful before people will jump on you with Yonko war not beneficial arguments

 

[Monster Luffy]

Funny how some people try very hard to be critic when in reality they are fooling themselves with their own headcanon version of certain character.

 

[dizzy2341]

Yeah, basically.

Be careful before people will jump on you with Yonko war not beneficial arguments

I mean, I'd welcome reasonable points and explanations, but everything so far mischaracterises WB in such ugly ways you wouldn't believe that these people are actually fans of the character.

That or they just strawman. Either way the excuses both on here and in the story are utterly ridiculous.

 

[OEKaneki]

Was a fine explanation. Doesn’t negatively impact Whitebeard’s character in the least.

Whitebeard was right. Going against Kaido later, years after Oden was dead, would have been a Pyrrhic victory. Oden was dead. Conversely, when he went to Marineford, Ace was alive. There was a chance to save one, and not the other.

As for Whitebeard not checking in, how many times does it have to be stated in the series for it to get through people’s domes that Wano was a closed off country? Nothing gets in or out. Simply getting there the first time wrecked Whitebeard’s ship. On top of that, what reason did Whitebeard have to check in to begin with? They were on different journeys at that point (a long established theme in the story, Luffy specifically said this to Nami when he first learned Ace was in trouble), and are we going to pretend that Whitebeard didn’t know that Oden was a monster and could handle himself? Furthermore, what message did Oden send to Whitebeard? Are we also going to pretend that had Oden sent a plea for help, that Whitebeard would not have responded with help, as he did in Marineford?

And this is without mentioning that in this very chapter, Big Mom herself said she thought of Kaido as a younger brother. Are we going to pretend that Whitebeard, a much nicer person than her, might not have felt that as well and was conflicted on that standpoint as well?

Nonsensical complaints.

 

[Garp the Fist]

Blackbeard:
-not anywhere near as strong as Whitebeard, even in his old age
-had no crew worth talking about, if he even had a crew at all at that stage
-killed a fellow crewmate

Kaido:
-was probably the strongest person in the world at that time due to Whitebeard’s illness
-had a full Yonko crew backing him
-killed Oden, who was just his enemy, not crewmates like Thatch and Teach were.

Whitebeard choosing not to intervene makes sense and is consistent with what happened before. They went to war for Ace because Ace was still alive- killing Kaido would not bring Oden back. And there’s still room for us to find out how Whitebeard and Kaido felt about each other since they were crewmates- Kaido has shown some respect for Whitebeard, for his part. He thinks he was soft, but still a great man, who died in the way Kaido himself wants to go.

 

[Konstantis]

It's just proves that Younko are equel(surprise lol) in all terms...WB afraid to fight Kaido case he knew, that a lot of his son will die, and for what?!

 

[Akuma_Law]

I feel that people are overreacting with this
Nothing really changed with the chapter, except to hype up Kaido for the upcoming fight lol

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

You guys really don't seem to get it, do you? Look at what happened to Ace when he lost his cool and let his thoughts of revenge consume him, and he just rushed off to satiate his desire for avenge Thatch. He ended up losing his life, and in turn, countless Whitebeard Pirates had to die, alongside Whitebeard himself.

This is exactly what Whitebeard DIDN'T want to happen by going on a revenge quest for Oden. Had he took his troops to War with Kaido, then countless amounts of his men would have died in the process. And there would have been no payoff for any of it even if they did win, because it wouldn't have brought Oden back. Oden would still be dead, and even more people would be dead because of it. But hey, at least they got to have a party and drink in the end, amright?

The fact that people think Whitebeards a coward or whatever for not wanting to risk the lives of his people, and that he made the wrong decision on this really shows where your mentality is at, and thank god none of yall are in any kind of position of authority that requires ensuring the safety of others.