Character Discussion Who is less evil between Kaido and Big Mom?

[matt245]

To me, a good litmus test to see how fucked up someone is, is how they treat those close to themselves. Cause if BM is willing to treat her own children like tools, has zero sympathy or respect for them, then that clearly means she sees those civilians as even less than that.

At least they are well fed and they don't starve to death which is something that it isn't happening under Kaido's reign

 

[drumming_seawizard]

big mama treats her kingdom like a child playing with dolls. she means well, but if things don't go her way she throws a tantrum, she is easily blinded by desire. she is selfish and short-sighted, but is genuinely trying to create the perfect world.
kaido just doesn't give a fuck about absolutely nothing, he wants to engulf the world in war because war for him is fun.

 

[JoNdule]

People see BM abuses Pudding for her 3rd eye and get pissed at her unloyal kids (Chiffon and Pralee who preferred helping their husbands against BM)

They say she's more evil than Kaido who chained his own daughter when she was 8 lol
Chained her for 20 years with an explosive neck collar.

She's cruel but Kaido is worse

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

big mama treats her kingdom like a child playing with dolls. she means well, but if things don't go her way she throws a tantrum, she is easily blinded by desire. she is selfish and short-sighted, but is genuinely trying to create the perfect world.
kaido just doesn't give a fuck about absolutely nothing, he wants to engulf the world in war because war for him is fun.

SOMEONE FINALLY FUCKING SAID IT

 

[matt245]

big mama treats her kingdom like a child playing with dolls. she means well, but if things don't go her way she throws a tantrum, she is easily blinded by desire. she is selfish and short-sighted, but is genuinely trying to create the perfect world.
kaido just doesn't give a fuck about absolutely nothing, he wants to engulf the world in war because war for him is fun.

That's one of the biggest facts that I've seen. Massive W for this newbie.

 

[DarkKingSlander]

Big mom is actively evil. Kaido is passively evil. Most of the vile shit in wano was orochis doing. Kaido enabled it, but hes not the one making it happen.

Big mom will genocide a kingdom for some cooking ingredients

 

[SakazOuki]

Depends on how one views evil itself
I see Meme's disrespect to herself and others around her as more outright evil than Kaido's cruel nihilism

 

[R A I T E I I I]

Big Mom was literally stealing people's life. That concept on itself ranks among the most evil things in one piece. Stealing life? I wish big mom had been a darker character... actually I think she acted so goofy because otherwise she would come across as gore nearly.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Big mom
Notice luffy and his goons never had to liberate Tottoland.

 

[Thabeast]

Big mom
Notice luffy and his goons never had to liberate Tottoland.

And they didn't have to liberate Onigashima either lol. They did liberate Fishmen Island who was under Big Mom though.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

And they didn't have to liberate Onigashima either lol. They did liberate Fishmen Island who was under Big Mom though.

Bad comparison
Wano natives didn’t live in onigashima .
Tottoland is relatively a paradise in comparison to wano.

 

[Winawk]

I have a more fair comparison.

 

[SakazOuki]

Bad comparison
Wano natives didn’t live in onigashima .
Tottoland is relatively a paradise in comparison to wano.

Wano was ruled by Orochi, Kaido was just his safety card
Different scenarios imo

 

[ShadyOjiro]

BM is less evil.

 

[Urouge D. Rouge]

Kaido enslaves people so thats is worse than big mom done,half her shit is she going nuts from hunger

she is less worse than him but still pretty bad

 

[Winawk]

Kaido enslaves people so thats is worse than big mom done,half her shit is she going nuts from hunger

she is less worse than him but still pretty bad

Big Mom enslaves people too

Did you forget that no one can leave Totto Land and that she literally has the ability Soul Pocus to control people with fear and take their life span.

 

[Urouge D. Rouge]

Big Mom enslaves people too

Did you forget that no one can leave Totto Land and that she literally has the ability Soul Pocus to control people with fear and take their life span.

Yeah you cant leave but as long you keep outisde her view the life there seems pretty chill, i wouldnt live in Wano, would go to Whole Cake if i had to choose betwenn both

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Wano was ruled by Orochi, Kaido was just his safety card
Different scenarios imo

kaido would be worse
the factories were made for him
he intended to crush the capital with onigashima
and in turn make the entire populace slaves

 

[Momonosuke]

To me, a good litmus test to see how fucked up someone is, is how they treat those close to themselves. Cause if BM is willing to treat her own children like tools, has zero sympathy or respect for them, then that clearly means she sees those civilians as even less than that.

Not always, big mom has her moments when children or food are involved, she tried to protect otama and she got mad about october town getting destroyed after those people were kind and gave her food.

Kaido doesn't give a shit about anyone unless they're strong. Even then he only wants to use them for his own reasons, he would have rather killed Yamato than let her leave on her own.

Big mom will use her influence to "protect" a territory to an extent, if they provide her with food she likes and those people are at least able to maintain somewhat normal lives.

Kaido on the other hand, enslaved an entire country and works their citizens to death to make weapons that he either uses on other civilians (or pirates or marines). The country he took over was dying, the people unable to feed themselves and without so much as clean water.

Kaido is a way bigger asshole, way easier to hate as a villain. Big mom is also pretty bad for sure, but honestly the worst part about big mom is her design

 

[Fujishiro]

Kaidou is less evil, Big Mom kills her children on a whim and enslaves them.

Kaidou actually respects and shows empathy for his crewmates at the very least.

Totland vs Wano.

Pay a bit of your soul and live a happy safe life vs forced into slavery for the rest of your life in a shithole country.