Questions & Mysteries Who was more nerfed? GKed Dof or SWed Teach?
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I'm not sure how Shock Wille and Gamma Knife compare in terms of lethality. Shock Wille is more like a physical Shockwave. While Gamma Knife is hax and ruptures organs. Shock Wille was able to break Big Mom's arm, but I don't know to what extend her or Blackbeard's organs were damaged. We know fatal wounds to the heart are deadly. Whitebeard collapsed from a heart attack, and squeezing the heart a bit (as Vergo did with Law's heart) already causes massive pain and damage. So if Shock Wille damaged Big Mom's or Blackbeard's heart, they probably wouldn't be able to continue in the same fashion.
So I guess Gamma Knife, as the name suggests, is more precise in dealing lethal damage when targeting specific organs. So the damage Doffy suffered was higher. Now the question is, was Doffy after stitching his organs together more nerfed than Blackbeard? I guess even with stitched organs, the damage was higher.
But then again, Blackbeard has higher endurance, so the real question is, would Doffy have eaten Shock Wille as easily as Blackbeard? I assume no. Given Shock Wille broke Big Mom's arm and heavily injured her, forcing her to sacrifice lifespan, Blackbeard eating it without much trouble is a testament to Blackbeard's stamina.
So Doffy being more nerfed was both due to the class of the attack and his inferior endurance in the first place. The moment Blackbeard faces Luffy, he will need to be able to eat attacks from Luffy that are magnitudes above what Doffy took, attacks that would one shot Doffy.
So I guess Gamma Knife, as the name suggests, is more precise in dealing lethal damage when targeting specific organs. So the damage Doffy suffered was higher. Now the question is, was Doffy after stitching his organs together more nerfed than Blackbeard? I guess even with stitched organs, the damage was higher.
But then again, Blackbeard has higher endurance, so the real question is, would Doffy have eaten Shock Wille as easily as Blackbeard? I assume no. Given Shock Wille broke Big Mom's arm and heavily injured her, forcing her to sacrifice lifespan, Blackbeard eating it without much trouble is a testament to Blackbeard's stamina.
So Doffy being more nerfed was both due to the class of the attack and his inferior endurance in the first place. The moment Blackbeard faces Luffy, he will need to be able to eat attacks from Luffy that are magnitudes above what Doffy took, attacks that would one shot Doffy.
Also notice how Doffy was tagged because Law had Luffy's help and played dead to trick Doffy otherwise he would have never touched Doffy who was vastly superior in CQC.
BB even though I like him and is probably stronger than what he looks like (hence the offpaneling so we can't see his best attacks), but he was still tagged easily while he had his men with him. No trick, just a slow dude with no reaction speed.
BB even though I like him and is probably stronger than what he looks like (hence the offpaneling so we can't see his best attacks), but he was still tagged easily while he had his men with him. No trick, just a slow dude with no reaction speed.
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Pathetic post.
Law hit Dof / Trebol in 1 v 2 with Injection Shot, plus Law was never healthy when he fought Dof, Fujitora beat him up first, then Dof beat him with Trebol in 1 v 2.
Teach blitzed G2 speed once he got serious, and obviously fast enough to wound on-guard Shanks.
What happened vs Law is that Teach didn't know how Law's Awakening works, he knew his basic abilities so he didn't get hit by them, but Awakening caught him by surprise. Law retreated to the island after refusing to fight Teach directly on the sea, then when he was cornered he attacked Doc Q's horse instead (not attacked Teach) and Teach lost his footing, then Law was able to hit him with Awakening on the sky.
Law didn't touch Teach again with SW. Teach usually toys around at the beginning, then he gets serious after taking attacks.
Probably because his durability and stamina is so high level similar to Kaido or BM, he is confident he won't get affected by it even if he gets hit at the beginning.
Other people can't afford this so they need to be serious from the beginning.
This racist ZKKfan insulting many times again not surprised he is being protected always.
Don't cry with your racist ZKK mouth about me in my threads (because no one care about your pathetic threads) when I stomped you many times about Gaban being background character, ZKK, Oden>WB, and Zolo being top tier in Fishman island. You are the pure definition of taking Ls ZKK loser.
Law hit Dof / Trebol in 1 v 2 with Injection Shot, plus Law was never healthy when he fought Dof, Fujitora beat him up first, then Dof beat him with Trebol in 1 v 2.
Teach blitzed G2 speed once he got serious, and obviously fast enough to wound on-guard Shanks.
What happened vs Law is that Teach didn't know how Law's Awakening works, he knew his basic abilities so he didn't get hit by them, but Awakening caught him by surprise. Law retreated to the island after refusing to fight Teach directly on the sea, then when he was cornered he attacked Doc Q's horse instead (not attacked Teach) and Teach lost his footing, then Law was able to hit him with Awakening on the sky.
Law didn't touch Teach again with SW. Teach usually toys around at the beginning, then he gets serious after taking attacks.
Probably because his durability and stamina is so high level similar to Kaido or BM, he is confident he won't get affected by it even if he gets hit at the beginning.
Other people can't afford this so they need to be serious from the beginning.
This racist ZKKfan insulting many times again not surprised he is being protected always.
Don't cry with your racist ZKK mouth about me in my threads (because no one care about your pathetic threads) when I stomped you many times about Gaban being background character, ZKK, Oden>WB, and Zolo being top tier in Fishman island. You are the pure definition of taking Ls ZKK loser.
Why are you losing to a racist ZKKtard all the time?
The only person you stomped is yourself.
The only person you stomped is yourself.
After ZKK, when you say Gaban is a background character you should've stop reading One Piece but somehow you still cry in my threads because no one care about your pathetic threads Lik.
Look at yourself, even your ZKKfriends don't agree with your Oden > WB and Zolo being top tier in fishman island nonsense, how is it possible to not beat you?
Sounds like it would be easy to beat me and yet you fail to do that. What's stopping you?
But I was right, lol, Gaban is a background character less relevant than all those I mentioned.
You think something changed just because he is having some panels in Elbaf?
Will it help you disprove those things if they don't agree with me?
Sounds like it would be easy to beat me and yet you fail to do that. What's stopping you?
But I was right, lol, Gaban is a background character less relevant than all those I mentioned.
You think something changed just because he is having some panels in Elbaf?
Sounds like it would be easy to beat me and yet you fail to do that. What's stopping you?
But I was right, lol, Gaban is a background character less relevant than all those I mentioned.
You think something changed just because he is having some panels in Elbaf?
Why are you losing to a racist ZKKtard all the time?
The only person you stomped is yourself.
The only person you stomped is yourself.
Or this:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/if-tekkai-was-coa-haki.9126/
Or Gaban:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...er-level-discussion.2108/page-20#post-6082342
Or ACoC:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/advanced-coc-discussion.11907/page-9
Or I made you cry about Oden > WB, or Zolo being top tier after leaving Mihawk island? Old Nikek's job is literally taking Ls from me
I give you a lot of chances here since you have 0 chance in any other place against me, but I am still beating you up in here too Old Nikek.
I proved many times that my IQ is higher than you entire ZKKfans, so if there is anyone silly it could be your daddy, but since I am your daddy, that would be wrong. Better to say my son Nikek is unfortunately is silly and mentally damaged due to taking too much Ls from me.
So my son old Nikek, you actually actually argue that a non-awakened attack is more powerful than an awakened attack?
What was your evidence that SW wasn't ''focused'' like GK? Your ZKK delusions? As I expected.
I didn't even tag my son Old Nikek's name here, but I see he is triggered so much he randomly started to insult
You didn't prove SW wasn't ''focused'' like GK at all Old Nikek. This is your usual L.
So you argue that Law used a lot of Awakening stamina for nothing when he fought BM, because Law could easily hit BM with GK when she was focused on Kid in 1 v 2?
Is there a reason why you jump onto your beloved Gaban when I ask you to prove WB>Oden?
Nope, you are literally losing at all those things.
When are you going to come up with a counter?
Oh right, never because it doesn't exist.
Dont cry just because I described you perfectly with >silly agenda boy because that's what you are.
You have proved many times that you IQ is at room temperature level, we all know that.
Yes, try to disprove it or continue to cry because facts don't align with your silly agendas.
The only reason why you are this triggered about my response is because you know it is true and it debunked your little agenda.
Try harder with next agenda but I will still debunk it easily.
You mean I am winning every single time? Such as ZKK?
Or this:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/if-tekkai-was-coa-haki.9126/
Or Gaban:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...er-level-discussion.2108/page-20#post-6082342
Or ACoC:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/advanced-coc-discussion.11907/page-9
Or I made you cry about Oden > WB, or Zolo being top tier after leaving Mihawk island? Old Nikek's job is literally taking Ls from me
I give you a lot of chances here since you have 0 chance in any other place against me, but I am still beating you up in here too Old Nikek.
Or this:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/if-tekkai-was-coa-haki.9126/
Or Gaban:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...er-level-discussion.2108/page-20#post-6082342
Or ACoC:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/advanced-coc-discussion.11907/page-9
Or I made you cry about Oden > WB, or Zolo being top tier after leaving Mihawk island? Old Nikek's job is literally taking Ls from me
I give you a lot of chances here since you have 0 chance in any other place against me, but I am still beating you up in here too Old Nikek.
When are you going to come up with a counter?
Oh right, never because it doesn't exist.
Dont cry just because I described you perfectly with >silly agenda boy because that's what you are.
You have proved many times that you IQ is at room temperature level, we all know that.
Yes, try to disprove it or continue to cry because facts don't align with your silly agendas.
I didn't even tag my son Old Nikek's name here, but I see he is triggered so much he randomly started to insult
You didn't prove SW wasn't ''focused'' like GK at all Old Nikek. This is your usual L.
You didn't prove SW wasn't ''focused'' like GK at all Old Nikek. This is your usual L.
Try harder with next agenda but I will still debunk it easily.
Shock Wille royally shits on Gamma Knife by the virtue of it being a signature awakening move that heavily consumes Law's stamina. That's why Law called it "last resort".
Law would've conserved his stamina using Gamma Knife against Teach had it been stronger.
Not to mention the many preparations needed to pull out a Shock Wille. From K-Room, Anesthesia to his own blade. All that effort definitely shows Shock Wille as the superior move.
Teach didn't only take the much stronger attack, he took it with amplified damage nerf and no temporary insides surgery. The damage it takes to knock out Doflamingo probably deals 10% to current Teach's total HP.
Drops to 0.5-1% when Teach starts eating barrage of EoS Luffy attacks, but that will probably be in his Zoan form.
Law would've conserved his stamina using Gamma Knife against Teach had it been stronger.
Not to mention the many preparations needed to pull out a Shock Wille. From K-Room, Anesthesia to his own blade. All that effort definitely shows Shock Wille as the superior move.
Teach didn't only take the much stronger attack, he took it with amplified damage nerf and no temporary insides surgery. The damage it takes to knock out Doflamingo probably deals 10% to current Teach's total HP.
Drops to 0.5-1% when Teach starts eating barrage of EoS Luffy attacks, but that will probably be in his Zoan form.
