Questions & Mysteries Who will be Sanji’s Kaido/Mihawk

#41
Sanji theme is a cook, not the man who seek Fame on strength. He can handle a single Admiral or Emperor or Maybe Gorosei in an isolated place without even losing Is enough. He already reduce the threat faced by SH side. Beating such as One is a bonus.

Zoro will be considered as Top Tier if he beat Lucci. Comparison -> Luffy beat Cracker & Katakuri was given 1.5B as the rising 5th emperor. Then Zoro should be considered higher (King & Lucci) than Luffy postWCI. But i think, Zoro wont get the achievement (he would but Sanji still slightly not there) In Order To be on the Arc - on the same Level top Tier together with Sanji.
 
#43
Can’t exactly compare Mihawks impact on Zoros journey and Kaidos impact on Luffy. Mihawk would be more equivalent to Blackbeard.

If it’s just what top tier would Sanji beat, probably an admiral like ryokugyu or whoever beats Ryo.
 
#44
The sooner that y'all accept that Sanji doesn't have a 1v1 fight always unlike Luffy and Zoro, the better. Which is fine btw; there's no need to turn Sanji into neither Luffy nor especially Zoro.
 
#47
Sanji had top tier potential whether you like him or not
Based on what? His role isn't a fighting one, he's a cook. No one in his family is close to scratching a High tier let alone a top tier. Took him 500 chapters to show basic armament on screen and doesn't have CoC let alone ACoC. His main goal is finding a sea which isn't related to fighting unlike Zoro and Luffy, he didn't even have a proper mentor and he doesn't have any parallel with a legend so; once again: where is this top tier potential?
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He doesn’t need to fight every arc to end the series as a top tier
You are comparing Kaido and Mihawk who are significant step stones in Zoro's and Luffy's path. So no, no top tier will be Sanji's step stone in his path because he doesn't need one.
 
#48
Based on what? His role isn't a fighting one, he's a cook. No one in his family is close to scratching a High tier let alone a top tier. Took him 500 chapters to show basic armament on screen and doesn't have CoC let alone ACoC. His main goal is finding a sea which isn't related to fighting unlike Zoro and Luffy, he didn't even have a proper mentor and he doesn't have any parallel with a legend so; once again: where is this top tier potential?
He’s one of luffy’s top fighters
He’s going to be put in situations where he has to fight strong characters. Whether it’s an admiral or gorosei or anything he’s going to need to be strong to fight and beat them

Sanji is a fighting chef
 
#49
Based on what? His role isn't a fighting one, he's a cook. No one in his family is close to scratching a High tier let alone a top tier. Took him 500 chapters to show basic armament on screen and doesn't have CoC let alone ACoC. His main goal is finding a sea which isn't related to fighting unlike Zoro and Luffy, he didn't even have a proper mentor and he doesn't have any parallel with a legend so; once again: where is this top tier potential?
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You are comparing Kaido and Mihawk who are significant step stones in Zoro's and Luffy's path. So no, no top tier will be Sanji's step stone in his path because he doesn't need one.
If you think sanji doesnt care about being one of the strongest you are dead wrong
He is literally obsessed with being strong and keeping up with zoro and having higher bounty/being stronger
He was even having fight with jinbei while they were escorting luffy
He doesnt have strength based goal but he surely is obsessed with being strong
 
#50
He’s one of luffy’s top fighters
He’s going to be put in situations where he has to fight strong characters. Whether it’s an admiral or gorosei or anything he’s going to need to be strong to fight and beat them

Sanji is a fighting chef
So was Gabban, Queen, Cracker... (Being top fighters of a Yonkou and PK) Yet they didn't become one did they? So your only argument here is that he's part of the MC's crew lol.
He was put in situations where he should've fought strong people Kaku, Kizaru and Saturn this same arc yet Oda made him run away and not face them. As for fighting strong people, everyone in the crew will be in a situation where they gotta fight strong folks. Franky himself was in a situation where he was against Saturn and Kizaru but I don't see anyone saying that he'll be a top tier.

Wrong, his title in the manga is a chef. Period. Don't argue with me, argue with the title that Oda gave him.
 
#52
That's for Oda to decide when the time comes, maybe Mihawk's dead at that point, or maybe Nusjuro explains how he's above the WSS, who knows.
If mihawk is dead, why does Zoro decide to fight Shanks instead? Why does he think the Gorosei guy is the strongest swordsman in the world?

and if the Gorosei guy says “I’m stronger than mihawk” why would Zoro believe him? Should he have proof that he’s stronger than mihawk?
 
#53
When did I say Luffy will Mihawk lmfao? I just mean that Zoro isn't going to have a serious brutal fight with his teacher, never going to happen, that's why Nusjuro was created as a substitute, someone who Zoro can fight in that deathmatch type fight.
Yes, he will. That's precisely why Mihawk trained him for. Both want that fight to happen.

It probably won't be a "deathmatch", though, because characters in this series don't die from wounds inflitec in a 1 vs 1, they'll just both end up badly beaten and go base to heal.

The "but he's his master" argument is silly enough. Claiming that a swordsman without a black sword was introduced to replace Mihawk as Zoro's final fight is another level of silly. Even worse, he was introduced many years before Mihawk trained Zoro, clearly not to substitute anyone.



Zoro and Mihawk are two of the most simplistic characters in the whole series, yet anyone who believes they wouldn't have a serious fight don't get either character.
 
#54
He ain't getting any. His character ain't relevant story wise for characters like that to exist for him
Should've been clear when Luffy got Rayleigh as his mentor, Mihawk as Zoro's yet the best thing that Oda gave him was an Okama. But I guess that a man's cope never dies.

If you think sanji doesnt care about being one of the strongest you are dead wrong
He is literally obsessed with being strong and keeping up with zoro and having higher bounty/being stronger
He was even having fight with jinbei while they were escorting luffy
He doesnt have strength based goal but he surely is obsessed with being strong
He definetly cares about being strong but not to Luffy's or Zoro's level.
 
#55
So was Gabban, Queen, Cracker... (Being top fighters of a Yonkou and PK) Yet they didn't become one did they? So your only argument here is that he's part of the MC's crew lol.
He was put in situations where he should've fought strong people Kaku, Kizaru and Saturn this same arc yet Oda made him run away and not face them. As for fighting strong people, everyone in the crew will be in a situation where they gotta fight strong folks. Franky himself was in a situation where he was against Saturn and Kizaru but I don't see anyone saying that he'll be a top tier.

Wrong, his title in the manga is a chef. Period. Don't argue with me, argue with the title that Oda gave him.
  1. We don’t know how strong gaban was
  2. Sanji will surpass them all
Sanji doesn’t need a fight every arc to be strong
Franky and Sanji if you didn’t realize are different characters. Sanji is one of luffy’s main fighters

Yes he’s a chef lol no one’s denying that
Him knowing how to cook doesn’t stop him from being strong
 
#56
Didn't even see Mihawk being mentioned. Not surprised it's coming from albino lmao. His obsession with a character he hates continues :milaugh:
 
#57
  1. We don’t know how strong gaban was
  2. Sanji will surpass them all
Sanji doesn’t need a fight every arc to be strong
Franky and Sanji if you didn’t realize are different characters. Sanji is one of luffy’s main fighters

Yes he’s a chef lol no one’s denying that
Him knowing how to cook doesn’t stop him from being strong
1. Irrelevant. Just like him. He was showed twice in 1100 chapters and no one said shit about him. Compare it to Rayleigh and... Yikes.
2. Yeah, based on nothing sure.

Yes, Franky and Sanji are different characters... just like Sanji and Zoro/Luffy. LOL.

He's definitely strong, hella strong for a chef but that's it.
 
#60
1. Irrelevant. Just like him. He was showed twice in 1100 chapters and no one said shit about him. Compare it to Rayleigh and... Yikes.
2. Yeah, based on nothing sure.

Yes, Franky and Sanji are different characters... just like Sanji and Zoro/Luffy. LOL.

He's definitely strong, hella strong for a chef but that's it.
Same way gaban isn’t sanji Rayleigh isn’t zoro
??

All of them are different characters
Sanji becoming a top tier is only because the opponents he’s going to have to face for Luffy. It’s the same for zoro
If Luffy fights the leader zoro will fight their #2 and sanji their #3

Being a chef doesn’t limit his strength lol
 
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