Break Week Why are other fanbases jealous of Zoro ?
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you are right. But gear 5 luffy and king of hell zoro is not a close fight.
Zoro will surpass Mihawk Shanks Ray and all the admirals. But i just don’t see him being stronger than EOS BB, Xebec Roger and WB
Thing is All those commanders of Xebec went of and built their own crew. That made them stronger. Plot had them be powerful.
Ray didn’t and he is definitely powerful just not as powerful as the above.
That’s why after Zoro defeats Mihawk i dont see him being stronger than EOS BB, Xebec WB and roger. Unless you have mihawk over them lot.
Zoro will surpass Mihawk Shanks Ray and all the admirals. But i just don’t see him being stronger than EOS BB, Xebec Roger and WB
Thing is All those commanders of Xebec went of and built their own crew. That made them stronger. Plot had them be powerful.
Ray didn’t and he is definitely powerful just not as powerful as the above.
That’s why after Zoro defeats Mihawk i dont see him being stronger than EOS BB, Xebec WB and roger. Unless you have mihawk over them lot.
This is only my interpretation, but I actually have Shanks as pretty much equal (minus a hand if that counts) to Roger. I think Shanks flexing Kamusari like that was a way to tell us he's pretty much Roger 2.0. Not as in "improved" but as in "replicated", if you get what I mean. I think he has "grown into Roger" even if he himself may not feel as such.
I believe Roger and everyone from his era benefit from having reached a myth-like status and that there isn't a considerable difference between them and our current top tiers. Even among people who knew him, they'll remember him as he was relative to them back then. It's a real psychological phenomenon to not notice you have reached the level of someone you used to admire or fear (in Kaido's case). Even if Roger could still be above "current" Kaido, I think the difference could be negligible.
For example, even if I think Mihawk is above Shanks (simply because his role is to be the living embodiment of Zoro fulfilling his promise) I don't think he's like in an entirely different tier.
Xebec gets well deserved portrayal for being the captain of those monsters, but as far as we know he was defeated by Roger, who was later matched by his former subordinate Whitebeard. I can't help but feel they're all around the same in the end once they reach their prime. Some of them like Kaido simply weren't up there yet.
I will rectify my statement a little bit: in my opinion, Zoro will either surpass most of these individuals or reach a level that blurs the line between him and them.
And then there'll be Luffy and his final enemy, possibly Imu, that for all we know may even go on a Shippuden-like trip of power in the last minute, so I don't even consider them in the discussion.
I believe Roger and everyone from his era benefit from having reached a myth-like status and that there isn't a considerable difference between them and our current top tiers. Even among people who knew him, they'll remember him as he was relative to them back then. It's a real psychological phenomenon to not notice you have reached the level of someone you used to admire or fear (in Kaido's case). Even if Roger could still be above "current" Kaido, I think the difference could be negligible.
For example, even if I think Mihawk is above Shanks (simply because his role is to be the living embodiment of Zoro fulfilling his promise) I don't think he's like in an entirely different tier.
Xebec gets well deserved portrayal for being the captain of those monsters, but as far as we know he was defeated by Roger, who was later matched by his former subordinate Whitebeard. I can't help but feel they're all around the same in the end once they reach their prime. Some of them like Kaido simply weren't up there yet.
I will rectify my statement a little bit: in my opinion, Zoro will either surpass most of these individuals or reach a level that blurs the line between him and them.
And then there'll be Luffy and his final enemy, possibly Imu, that for all we know may even go on a Shippuden-like trip of power in the last minute, so I don't even consider them in the discussion.
I like this .A very civilised discussion. I would’ve gotten insulted if it was a different zoro fan.
I for one dont think Shanks is equal to roger and i will tell you why. We know shanks is one of the strongest but i dont think he is the strongest. If he isn’t the strongest and he is equal to roger in strength then Roger has already been surpassed by someone else other than the main character and main villain.
I believe Roger was and still is the strongest pirate ever even after his death.
And only the MC and Main Antagonist will surpass him.
I believe Oda has been implying that ever since he got introduced.
I don’t think my opinion is gonna change and in all honesty i could be wrong and so could you.
All we can do is wait.
I for one dont think Shanks is equal to roger and i will tell you why. We know shanks is one of the strongest but i dont think he is the strongest. If he isn’t the strongest and he is equal to roger in strength then Roger has already been surpassed by someone else other than the main character and main villain.
I believe Roger was and still is the strongest pirate ever even after his death.
And only the MC and Main Antagonist will surpass him.
I believe Oda has been implying that ever since he got introduced.
I don’t think my opinion is gonna change and in all honesty i could be wrong and so could you.
All we can do is wait.
Cant believe you are a human with take such as this. Zolo is inferior to Luffy and Yonko. Mihawk isnt stronger than Shanks with 4 limbs cut. Zoro isn't going to be close to Roger. Where is Zoro compared to Luffy? You guys were crying your asses off that Zolo is compared to Ryuma and how he will kill Kaido like Ryuma slayed the dragon but what happened in reality? Luffy was compared to Ryuma instead. 
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Mihawk is irrelevant, shanks is the literal self insert of oda, but somehow fandom thinks he is inferior to someone whose biggest achievement was beating mr 1 and getting stalled by pre TS crocodile.
Zolo nearly died beating a YC 1 that didn't have advanced haki and they think he is on the same league as Roger or Luffy who beat the WSC Kaido. Its very funny to see mad people tell their hallucinations and delusions here.
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Cant believe you are a medico with take such as this. Zolo is inferior to Luffy and Yonko. Mihawk isnt stronger than Shanks with 4 limbs cut. Zoro isn't going to be close to Roger. Where is Zoro compared to Luffy? You guys were crying your asses off that Zolo is compared to Ryuma and how he will kill Kaido like Ryuma slayed the dragon but what happened in reality? Luffy was compared to Ryuma instead.
I am shocked that a medico can be so delusional. It is quite shameful.
I am shocked that a medico can be so delusional. It is quite shameful.
"Zoro is the embodiment of strength in the series"
guess kaido, WB, roger, xebec and all other characters who are MILES above zoro doesnt exist, right????Roger, WB and xebec are the benchmarks, they will forever be jn the top 7.
Then comes eos luffy, eos blackbeard, eos sabo(ace was predicted to become PK due to his bloodline and since sabo fulfills his role, its obvious that oda is going this way) and last, but not least: IMU.
End of series top 7:
1: luffy
2: imu
3: blackbeard(2 and 3 can change positions depending on who turns out to be the final villain)
4: Sabo
5:shanks
6:roger
7:dragon
Honorable mentions: Whitebeard, kaido, yamato, big mom, shiki, urouge( the mad monk will display his huge COC eventually, wait and see)
Not to mention that we still need to see akainu, garp, sengoku, kong, gorosei and the Holy knights going all out.
Claiming that zoro will be anywhere near this top 7 is INSANE, zoro's role is to gain a worthless title that NOBODY cares about after beating an even less relevant character.
All the characters mentioned on top 7 are important to the plot not just because of their strength, but also for their role in the world.
Zoro has ZERO plot outside of getting irrelevant title and serving as chosen one bodyguard.
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Cognitive dissonance is the name of their problem.
They go to such an extent where they admit that luffy, blackbeard, sabo, dragon and imu are the top players inside the plot.
They admit and complain that shanks is oda's self insertion perfect character.
They admit that both zoro and mihawk have ZERO plot lines outside of their pursuit for useless title that no one outside of them and tashigi care about.
But somehow, despite all those points, they still believe zoro and mihawk will stand above everyone despite neither having the power nor plot relevance to do so.
There is a guy so lunatic in this thread that he genuinely believes zoro is already top 1 in the verse hahahahahahah.
I don't see that Zoro was weaker than Nicky Goofy. goofy on the fifth attempt,,rest, food, resurrection + haki and the power of joyboy somehow finished off Kaido by 20% hp. he was literally helped by 20 people. and now this rubber weakling can't beat a lunaria child in 4 geare without haki and without magma. While Zoro destroyed the pureblood lunaria. all goofy's power is joyboy's power. the whole power of Zoro is himself.
These people forget something, Oda gives Zoro a lot of preferential treatment.
Any fanboy wish their favorite character gets love as much as Zoro. Luffy gets that much love because he is the MC, Zoro because he is Oda's favorite.
This is why toxic Sanji fans are the most vocal, Oda actively shit on their favorite while at the same time shower Zoro with uncountable love.
Any fanboy wish their favorite character gets love as much as Zoro. Luffy gets that much love because he is the MC, Zoro because he is Oda's favorite.
This is why toxic Sanji fans are the most vocal, Oda actively shit on their favorite while at the same time shower Zoro with uncountable love.
Cant believe you are a human with take such as this. Zolo is inferior to Luffy and Yonko. Mihawk isnt stronger than Shanks with 4 limbs cut. Zoro isn't going to be close to Roger. Where is Zoro compared to Luffy? You guys were crying your asses off that Zolo is compared to Ryuma and how he will kill Kaido like Ryuma slayed the dragon but what happened in reality? Luffy was compared to Ryuma instead. y
I am shocked that a human can be so delusional. It is quite shameful but you are a zolofan so its understandable. Zolofans are new species belong to Homo idiotus.
yI am shocked that a human can be so delusional. It is quite shameful but you are a zolofan so its understandable. Zolofans are new species belong to Homo idiotus.
Dude really considers himself as a God coming from heaven with a IQ above Einstein when he is just an insecure clown who just insults everyone because he is mad lmao.
Another funny thing is when you check the guys who liked his posts, all the same who get multiples PM and bans for being dumbs and agressives. So keep crying on your profile posts how people/mods here are bad with you
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This thing become more apparent when we search Zoro's funny videos and all that come up is pretimeskip stuff.
Sigh, expressive Zoro is much better, Oda. It doesn't take away from his strength.
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There's a difference. Shanks is portrayed according to his hype/status/standing/etc.
With Zoro, Oda went out his way to make him gain spotlight & importance.
Often times, Sanji is used as a foil.
For example, it has been established that Sanji is a/the better swimmer, yet Oda make Zoro saves Smoker in Alabasta.
Also, Oda's first big creation looks a lot like Zoro. This character has a big sentimental value for him.
Sigh, expressive Zoro is much better, Oda. It doesn't take away from his strength.
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There's a difference. Shanks is portrayed according to his hype/status/standing/etc.
With Zoro, Oda went out his way to make him gain spotlight & importance.
Often times, Sanji is used as a foil.
For example, it has been established that Sanji is a/the better swimmer, yet Oda make Zoro saves Smoker in Alabasta.
Also, Oda's first big creation looks a lot like Zoro. This character has a big sentimental value for him.
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