Questions & Mysteries Why did Luffy's fruit become relevant years after he became a famous pirate?

Natalija

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The World Government knows about Luffy AND his ability for years. So if the scary fruit is indeed his devil fruit, why only react to it now? They said Wano was a good opportunity to "get rid of that nuisance", but why not get rid of him when he was a rookie? It could imply that they are either not very worried, or just ignorant of what might happen when it's awakened. Suddenly that turned into "eliminate Straw Hat Luffy at once".

Was it in fact Shanks who informed them of its importance? Did they know of the conditions it needed for awakening? Are the conditions a combination of death/being a D./being Luffy?

I won't ever consider Shanks not wanting the best for Luffy as a Shanks fan, but did Shanks know how important this awakening was? Could that be the reason he saved Luffy from dying, knowing the catalyst for awakening would be Luffy's death? (def not, but throwing this one in for @Paperchampion23 and his shady Shanks theory)


A lot of questions I want answered after this chapter :hurry: curious about some opinions @Akai2 @TheAncientCenturion @Jew D. Boy @djiayebee @Garp the Fist @Bogard @RayanOO @Marimo_420 @Tyki_Mikk @Sentinel @Seraphoenix @Nidai_Kitetsu @Kejon @Fujishiro @Rosella.Fiamingo etcccc


EDIT: also, not being awakened in centuries, do you think the awakening conditions weren't met before? Or that no one had the fruit?
 
Jew D. Boy

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Natalija said:
The World Government knows about Luffy AND his ability for years. So if the scary fruit is indeed his devil fruit, why only react to it now? They said Wano was a good opportunity to "get rid of that nuisance", but why not get rid of him when he was a rookie? It could imply that they are either not very worried, or just ignorant of what might happen when it's awakened. Suddenly that turned into "eliminate Straw Hat Luffy at once".

Was it in fact Shanks who informed them of its importance? Did they know of the conditions it needed for awakening? Are the conditions a combination of death/being a D./being Luffy?

I won't ever consider Shanks not wanting the best for Luffy as a Shanks fan, but did Shanks know how important this awakening was? Could that be the reason he saved Luffy from dying, knowing the catalyst for awakening would be Luffy's death? (def not, but throwing this one in for @Paperchampion23 and his shady Shanks theory)


A lot of questions I want answered after this chapter :hurry: curious about some opinions @Akai2 @TheAncientCenturion @Jew D. Boy @djiayebee @Garp the Fist @Bogard @RayanOO @Marimo_420 @Tyki_Mikk @Sentinel @Seraphoenix @Nidai_Kitetsu @Kejon @Fujishiro @Rosella.Fiamingo etcccc
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To the first point, the WG has been doing their damnedest to snuff Luffy out since he began his journey…why they didn’t track him down in his homeland and kill him before he grew up is beyond me, and clearly it’s beyond the author as well.

As far as the Shanks stuff, I always wanted to believe that he WASN’T ratting out the rubber kid, but that seems unlikely now. Since we know he didn’t go to Laugh Tale, he probably doesn’t understand what Roger saw or what his former captain was planning by letting someone else become the reincarnation of Joyboy; whatever he thinks he’s doing, it might be rooted in saving Luffy from something neither of them really comprehend, but it’s having the opposite effect now.
 
TheAncientCenturion

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Natalija said:
but why not get rid of him when he was a rookie
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I think it’s because they didn’t credit Luffy with having the potential to awaken it. They said it hasn’t been awakened in centuries which to me reads that there have been other users of the fruit before. It might be business as usual unless the fruit user is very proficient with it / a D?

I also think Shanks did talk to them about Luffy. It’s also entirely possible the current gen. of the Gorosei didn’t consider Luffy’s potential and Shanks warned them of it — which was proven true when Luffy could fight Kaido 1 v 1.

As for the awakening requirements I have no idea. I don’t think death specifically is needed to awaken his fruit but it was the last bit that pushed him over the edge.

I do think Shanks is nefarious here though. He has a self serving angle
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It is weird that the Gorosei would imprison Who’s Who, a Lucci level prodigy, for failing when Shanks robbed him but wouldn’t go after Luffy’s ass all throughout the first part of the story. Anytime after Alabasta should’ve had them jumping at the chance to capture Luffy.
 
Natalija

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TheAncientCenturion said:
I think it’s because they didn’t credit Luffy with having the potential to awaken it. They said it hasn’t been awakened in centuries which to me reads that there have been other users of the fruit before. It might be business as usual unless the fruit user is very proficient with it / a D?

I also think Shanks did talk to them about Luffy. It’s also entirely possible the current gen. of the Gorosei didn’t consider Luffy’s potential and Shanks warned them of it — which was proven true when Luffy could fight Kaido 1 v 1.

As for the awakening requirements I have no idea. I don’t think death specifically is needed to awaken his fruit but it was the last bit that pushed him over the edge.

I do think Shanks is nefarious here though. He has a self serving angle
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It is weird that the Gorosei would imprison Who’s Who, a Lucci level prodigy, for failing when Shanks robbed him but wouldn’t go after Luffy’s ass all throughout the first part of the story. Anytime after Alabasta should’ve had them jumping at the chance to capture Luffy.
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OR did they not know what the conditions for awakening were, so they accidentally triggered it by killing him?
 
djiayebee

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TheAncientCenturion said:
I think it’s because they didn’t credit Luffy with having the potential to awaken it. They said it hasn’t been awakened in centuries which to me reads that there have been other users of the fruit before. It might be business as usual unless the fruit user is very proficient with it / a D?

I also think Shanks did talk to them about Luffy. It’s also entirely possible the current gen. of the Gorosei didn’t consider Luffy’s potential and Shanks warned them of it — which was proven true when Luffy could fight Kaido 1 v 1.

As for the awakening requirements I have no idea. I don’t think death specifically is needed to awaken his fruit but it was the last bit that pushed him over the edge.

I do think Shanks is nefarious here though. He has a self serving angle
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It is weird that the Gorosei would imprison Who’s Who, a Lucci level prodigy, for failing when Shanks robbed him but wouldn’t go after Luffy’s ass all throughout the first part of the story. Anytime after Alabasta should’ve had them jumping at the chance to capture Luffy.
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TAC actually saying something that makes sense?? wow today is to be marked down!

@Nat I agree with all the above and I'd think probably the awakening requirements is a combination of king haki + coating + future sights (or something like that) which Luffy never had until now. I mean, he has been in critical conditions during some of his previous fights too so.... he must have unlocked some of the requirements while in Wano (maybe it has to do with Momo/Zunisha but i hope not)
 
Jew D. Boy

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I’m sure I’m not the only person to posit this, but it’s occurring to me for the first time that Shanks stole the Gomu Gomu no Mi from the WG to make sure nobody ate it and fulfilled his captain’s vision…then when Luffy went ahead and chowed down, he knew he had to both watch over the kid as he progressed (maybe to make sure he didn’t get too powerful) AND inform the higher ups that the plan to thwart Roger’s legacy had been altered. To that end, he might have saved Luffy in Marineford to ensure that he DIDN’T get as close to death as he did against Kaido, he knew what would happen…
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I’m also pretty high right now, so grain of salt and all that :laughmoji:
 
Pooth

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Natalija said:
The World Government knows about Luffy AND his ability for years. So if the scary fruit is indeed his devil fruit, why only react to it now? They said Wano was a good opportunity to "get rid of that nuisance", but why not get rid of him when he was a rookie? It could imply that they are either not very worried, or just ignorant of what might happen when it's awakened. Suddenly that turned into "eliminate Straw Hat Luffy at once".

Was it in fact Shanks who informed them of its importance? Did they know of the conditions it needed for awakening? Are the conditions a combination of death/being a D./being Luffy?

I won't ever consider Shanks not wanting the best for Luffy as a Shanks fan, but did Shanks know how important this awakening was? Could that be the reason he saved Luffy from dying, knowing the catalyst for awakening would be Luffy's death? (def not, but throwing this one in for @Paperchampion23 and his shady Shanks theory)


A lot of questions I want answered after this chapter :hurry: curious about some opinions @Akai2 @TheAncientCenturion @Jew D. Boy @djiayebee @Garp the Fist @Bogard @RayanOO @Marimo_420 @Tyki_Mikk @Sentinel @Seraphoenix @Nidai_Kitetsu @Kejon @Fujishiro @Rosella.Fiamingo etcccc


EDIT: also, not being awakened in centuries, do you think the awakening conditions weren't met before? Or that no one had the fruit?
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Because oda is a garbage writer and most op fans cannot admit naruto is better
 
Natalija

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Jailer said:
Maybe they didn't know Luffy was the user of that fruit till he fought Crocodile.
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Even so, the SHs were so famous and neg diffed at Sabaody, at that point everyone and their dogs in the WG should have gunned him down.

djiayebee said:
@Nat I agree with all the above and I'd think probably the awakening requirements is a combination of king haki + coating + future sights (or something like that) which Luffy never had until now. I mean, he has been in critical conditions during some of his previous fights too so.... he must have unlocked some of the requirements while in Wano (maybe it has to do with Momo/Zunisha but i hope not)
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We could argue that the requirement is actual death (if you believe he died), that would be a first for him. Near death and actual death are not the same I guess
 
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