Questions & Mysteries why do some ppl keep on downplaying oden's prime level ?
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what if i answer first only your first claim due to your last sentence that show your bias ?
20 years to be stronger ? according to who ?
he was 40 ish yo already, it's hard to become any stronger for a long 20 years. rather and it's in op pattern, people who are between 50s and 70s are all descending and not progressing anymore be it garp, Roger, wb, sengoku etc.
you act like kaido was a mère kid and not already in his prime both power and âge wise.
20 years to be stronger ? according to who ?
he was 40 ish yo already, it's hard to become any stronger for a long 20 years. rather and it's in op pattern, people who are between 50s and 70s are all descending and not progressing anymore be it garp, Roger, wb, sengoku etc.
you act like kaido was a mère kid and not already in his prime both power and âge wise.
K
Oden sailed with the best and returned invincible, in him the people of wano saw salvation, more kaido resolved salvation, oden was strong, very strong, the story as it was built from various tales makes him unique, he was a monster, I can't imagine any current admiral winning oden.
Bring all the admirals, I will become the king of these bastards.
Bring all the admirals, I will become the king of these bastards.
Have you tried to compare the size of his scar with a normal character? We will see.
Do you even scale?
Might as well compare giants and humans while your at it, you clown.
The size doesn't matter because it's still a small ass wound on Kaido. It is nowhere near life threatening
K
Damn, ok, I was trying to open your mind, but it's not worth it, I'll summarize what I would say in a few words: Imagine any other character in Kaido's place receiving Tougen Shirataki from Oden and succeeding. I don't even want to imagine what enma and Ame in Habakiri + Ryou could do in others. In fact, kaido received the blow and just fell he didn't erase it was clear in the previous chapters.
I hope the image below gives you an idea of what enma and Ame in Habakiri + ryou, together with a named oden attack, can do in zoro, but okay, it's just "shallow for you".
The level of cut of the enma was absurd, we saw the zoro demonstrate this only when trying to cut a tree, imagine the power level of Tougen Shirataki with both two swords + everything from oden lol, but that's okay, most of the characters would take it like a "shallow" attack right?
Something superficial for Kaido is fatal to others, don't forget that, you little grasshopper
Oden would literally be cutting paper.
I hope the image below gives you an idea of what enma and Ame in Habakiri + ryou, together with a named oden attack, can do in zoro, but okay, it's just "shallow for you".
The level of cut of the enma was absurd, we saw the zoro demonstrate this only when trying to cut a tree, imagine the power level of Tougen Shirataki with both two swords + everything from oden lol, but that's okay, most of the characters would take it like a "shallow" attack right?
Something superficial for Kaido is fatal to others, don't forget that, you little grasshopper
Oden would literally be cutting paper.
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Kizaru SHITS on Kaido
Akainu SHITS on Kaido
Aokiji SHITS on Kaido
Post skip Akainu I do believe has the potential to be stronger than Kaido, but not loser Aokiji who is licking his wounds with his crippled body and not lazy Kizaru who feels no need to progress. That is why Akainu has been naratively elevated to Fleet Admiral and why he was the one clashing seriously and repeatedly with Yonkos in the war and the other two not nearly as much.
Kaido's age is unknown but he's currently in his mid fifties at max, more than likely; twenty years ago he'd have been in his thirties. To put it into perspective, Linlin achieved her prime after turning thirty (before she didn't have Napoleon yet) and Ashura Doji explicitly stated he became twenty years stronger since Kin'emon and company time travelled (and he's currently 56, probably Kaido's age or even older). So not only is possible for Kaido to have become stronger but also likely.
Yet kinemon pierced kaido and doji didnt.
Wbs prime was late 30s
Roger at god valley would be in his late 30s before he was ill
Shanks is 39
Blackbeard 40
Mihawk 41
Oden hit his peak by his own admission and died at 39
Theres a clear age range when fighters peak
Some keep that peak longer than others.
But nowhere does someone keep growing.
Wbs prime was late 30s
Roger at god valley would be in his late 30s before he was ill
Shanks is 39
Blackbeard 40
Mihawk 41
Oden hit his peak by his own admission and died at 39
Theres a clear age range when fighters peak
Some keep that peak longer than others.
But nowhere does someone keep growing.
Did you see Doji actually reaching Kaido or where he landed his sword? If not (which is the case because the drawing is vague and, in all case, he would have reached his pants), why do you assume he didn't pierce him too, exactly? How has it been proven if we saw literally nothing? Ashura Doji was hyped by his role in Kuri and against Oden, then assured he grew stronger during those twenty years, faced Jack with relative ease and was stressed by Kin'emon himself as a strong asset alongside Denjiro and Kawamatsu.
Having stronger armament doesn't authomatically make you stronger overall.
That Kin'emon broke Kaido's defence alongside Kiku may also tell you that it isn't such a big feat as long as you have ryuo, and it's not like Kin'emon scarred Kaido like Oden did; a feat he may wouldn't be able to repeat against current Kaido if he in fact grew stronger.
Having stronger armament doesn't authomatically make you stronger overall.
That Kin'emon broke Kaido's defence alongside Kiku may also tell you that it isn't such a big feat as long as you have ryuo, and it's not like Kin'emon scarred Kaido like Oden did; a feat he may wouldn't be able to repeat against current Kaido if he in fact grew stronger.
Doji 20 years ago fought kaido survived and impressed him.
Then became a bandit after people died attacking kaido 10 years ago. Where it didnt seem like he was fighting anyone major. So wheres the growth.
Youre the one making the statements this guy got stronger this guy got stronger with no proof to back it up.
Then became a bandit after people died attacking kaido 10 years ago. Where it didnt seem like he was fighting anyone major. So wheres the growth.
Youre the one making the statements this guy got stronger this guy got stronger with no proof to back it up.