General & Others Why is Oda taking so much break especially considering what he produces on average?

[Afroking]

To say what exactly about the pages he produces? 17 pages are fine. There are mangaka that do even less regularly(Tabata,Black cover 15 most of the time for an example) .
To say what about him taking breaks? Both Tabata and Horikoshi have begun taking breaks earlier than Oda and it is ridiculous to codemn people working to death . Do people want the artists to get hospitilized and take even more breaks or stop all together?
His art is consistent enough personally and outstanding from time to time. The problem he has is paneling and it shows in volumes. There were complains "recently " for how you couldn't read what characters said the way he paneled.(I Don't remember the volume, but it was Wano and the volume got bad reviews on Amazon.jp iirc. )
Another problem Oda has with art is surely how he doesn't bother with actions in major parts and it seems like the characters are still.

Nobody says something about Oda unlike with togashi is because, he works his ass off and doesn't just draw animal dungs for the art and be done with it. Animation won't say something becuase it isn't Oda's fault the anime doesn't take a break,which in result make it have the pace of a snail. ( Though I think he certainly doesn't want his anime to stop).

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As for the story ,I personally would want him to take Wano slower,which for me he speeds through and bring actual tension in the story again.
The MCs feel like they cruise and luck meter has gone off the charts. it is fine but to a certain extent. Ever since Mama chase begun and after the tsunami the tension got lost in the story with some exceptions maybe here and there.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Imagine if your boss let you take two weeks out of every month off while you’re helming one of the most sprawling works of fiction in history and you refuse to let anyone else assist you in polishing the product. My corporate desk job wouldn’t allow that, but if you really don’t see the difference between that and Oda’s position, I’m not sure how to explain it in a way you’ll comprehend. It’s a business, but he’s also telling us a story. Not our fault he made it too unwieldy; now that we’re all here, you really think it’s irrational to expect better from a man who GAVE us “better” for so many years??

Imagine being 45 years old and average 3 hours of sleep a night for over half your life. Shueisha forces Oda to take these breaks so he doesn't keel over and die in the middle of writing One Piece. Japan has had major problems in the past due to people dying from overwork. They even coined a term for it, because it happens so much. The Government has even stepped in and have been taking measures to try to put an end to this "Epidemic" as they've deemed it.

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/articl...ese-are-putting-an-end-to-death-from-overwork

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Imagine being 45 years old and average 3 hours of sleep a night for over half your life. Shueisha forces Oda to take these breaks so he doesn't keel over and die in the middle of writing One Piece. Japan has had major problems in the past due to people dying from overwork. They even coined a term for it, because it happens so much. The Government has even stepped in and have been taking measures to try to put an end to this "Epidemic" as they've deemed it.

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/articl...ese-are-putting-an-end-to-death-from-overwork

Again, how is Oda’s miserable pacing issues and tendency to introduce too many unimportant characters my fault? He could have neatly wrapped everything up 10 years ago if he wanted to; HE is the one in control, all we do is react to his shit. I understand the overworking issue is real, but when it directly affects the quality and release schedule, who’s ultimately responsible for all of that??

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Again, how is Oda’s miserable pacing issues and tendency to introduce too many unimportant characters my fault? He could have neatly wrapped everything up 10 years ago if he wanted to; HE is the one in control, all we do is react to his shit. I understand the overworking issue is real, but when it directly affects the quality and release schedule, who’s ultimately responsible for all of that??

This kind of pacing is nothing new though. It becomes unbearable now that he is being forced to take so many breaks, but at the same time, it's very hard to change the way you've been doing something for so long. Especially when that is your style of writing.

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I'd just rather Oda go on Hiatus, at least in Jump and do stuff in Volumes using many pages as to not be constrained. I think a Story like OP shouldn't have been reduced to a weekly 15-17 some odd pages, It deserves it, Oda shouldn't need to feel pressured to get pages out while skimping out the story points, CD characerization etc..

It wouldn't even be beneficial for him to take a Hiatus, because when he comes back, he'll just fall back into the same work pattern of roughly sleeping 3 hours a night. Shueisha probably opts to have him do it this way, so he at least gets time to himself every month, and doesn't have to sleep 3 hours a night so he has time to put out a chapter every week, plus have time to do other things.

 

[Zenos7]

Imagine if your boss let you take two weeks out of every month off while you’re helming one of the most sprawling works of fiction in history and you refuse to let anyone else assist you in polishing the product

i am pretty sure oda still works when the manga is on break

 

[Jew D. Boy]

As usual, my first mistake was commenting on something in the first place. Let me address all of you quoting me at once - I don’t care how you rationalize it, those of us who are tired of the breaks are every bit as entitled to voice that opinion as y’all are to defend an author who’s written himself into multiple corners the last few years and failed to get out of them gracefully. I’d rather see OP go monthly at this point so when we only get one chapter every three or four weeks, it’ll be expected. Maybe the quality would return if he implemented this kind of schedule.

 

[Kucing Pencuri]

Im pretty sure it's part of the contract now with WSJ. One Piece is WSJ's best asset, their biggest WSJ manga in history. They cant let Oda to sick, same with Togashi.

WSJ is a strict magazine, do you think they would let mangaka just take a break whenever they want? Lol

 

[Dread Pirate]

I thought it’s been clearly addressed why breaks have increased? Anyways, a series as long running and popular as one piece will always have a faction that’s gonna want to criticize various aspects and claim it’s had a massive dip in quality. I totally support their right to have an opinion, but I would disagree for the most part.
One thing I don’t get is this belief pre skip was not full of the same so called problems that are regularly addressed now. Like do you guys have selective memory or what?

 

[swarna]

I don't know, I think acknowledging Oda's unrealistic work ethic and refusal to compromise on his vision but at the same time holding him personally responsible for how he makes you personally feel when he finally takes a long overdue respite is grounds for being clowned. You're justified to those feelings, but expressing them online without expecting any logical backlash or criticism against the specific points you're making is hilarious. That kind of passive listening is a job for family and friends.

This is probably a case of certain individuals needing to take a break from living and breathing One Piece more than anything. I can speak from personal experience and say that taking 1-2 year breaks at a time from reading/watching does wonders for tempering expectations and overall enjoyment.

 

[Dread Pirate]

I don't know, I think acknowledging Oda's unrealistic work ethic and refusal to compromise on his vision but at the same time holding him personally responsible for how he makes you personally feel when he finally takes a long overdue respite is grounds for being clowned. You're justified to those feelings, but expressing them online without expecting any logical backlash or criticism against the specific points you're making is hilarious. That kind of passive listening is a job for family and friends.

This is probably a case of certain individuals needing to take a break from living and breathing One Piece more than anything.

This is so true. I took a break from the middle of Dressrosa in 2015 until the end of the oden flashback. Best decision I could have made as a one piece fan.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Sorry, but i like my 15-17 page, 2/3 chapters per month. I dont want OPs format to change. If it works for Oda, it works for me. If it was monthly, I'd honestly pay attention to the series way less.

 

[Zenos7]

i eventually just started reading most other weekly airing SJ mangas and im not really bothered anymore by OP breaks because OP isnt what im most excited for anyway, thats moriking!

 

[Orojackson Refugee]

Why is everybody pissing on hiatus masters but never on Oda who has against him his pace which is not the case for these hiatus masters - for example Hxh which never felt slow in the animation at least.

Idk what you all think about this.

lmao people get pissed on oda for his pace. The slow pace thing has been complained since timeskip. However, HxH gets very long break compared to one piece and the author is clearly lazy at drawing, that's why more people complain about HxH

For animation, the remake HxH got a better studio rather than the greedy TOEI studio. TOEI just rides on the big name of one piece and dragon ball. They know no matter how bad the animation is, people would still watch it.

 

[Ryuarashi]

You just need to take a break from the manga at this point.

 

[Longleg Larry]

If Oda didn't leave us wanting more, he'd be a bad writer.

But he does, so he's not

 

[Bullet]

I don't like the breaks either but you shouldn't blame Oda for being lazy
Other mangaka's have talked about how they get only 3 to 4 hours of sleep and the stress and pressure from jump now imagine going through that for 23 years and being near 50 years old
What you can blame him for is his pacing almsot all post ts arcs could have been done in half the chapter they took
Fishman island, punk hazard, dressrosa, wcl and wano ( up until now ) would need 150 to 170 chapter at max if he didn't introduce so many useless characters and plot lines and we could have been in the final war or even have finished by now

I've already talked about how garbage his writing has become so i don't comment on the quality

 

[Paperchampion23]

I don't like the breaks either but you shouldn't blame Oda for being lazy
Other mangaka's have talked about how they get only 3 to 4 hours of sleep and the stress and pressure from jump now imagine going through that for 23 years and being near 50 years old
What you can blame him for is his writing almsot all post ts arcs could have been done in half the chapter they took
Fishman island, punk hazard, dressrosa, wcl and wano ( up until now ) would need 150 to 170 chapter at max if he didn't introduce so many useless characters and plot lines and we could have been in the final war or even have finished by now

I've already talked about how garbage his writing has become so i don't comment on the quality

But why is that a testament to "writing"? Clearly you have a problem with "pacing" and "number of characters", not "writing".

GRRM introducing a hundred plus sub character plotlines he struggles to finish in ASOIF is certainly an issue, but no one remotely says he's a bad writer due to the complexity and length of his story.

Its like when some users here misuse the word plothole. Like no, Oda not showing what happened to Sabo at the Reverie is NOT a plothole.

That being said, I agree that Oda is 100% not lazy at all, in fact its the far opposite direction.

 

[Bullet]

But why is that a testament to "writing"? Clearly you have a problem with "pacing" and "number of characters", not "writing".

Yeah i guess i should have used pacing instead of writing

Oda not showing what happened to Sabo at the Reverie is NOT a plothole.

It's not a plothole but it's annoying when he skips the good stuff
You can get 50 chapter of Luffy vs fodder but Oden vs Kaido gets offscreened
We get 30 chapters of nosebleed but Sanji vs page 1 isn't important enough to be shown
And even now he seems to want to offscreen the rooftop fight with Kaido

 

[JerAx]

oda still write in analog format. I do wish the whole jump move away from this, so they can release digitally on sunday.
Whole spoiler problem will go poof and gone.

also manwha are digital, so working remotely is more doable admist covid.
that said tower of god is still on break fuck it.

 

[XGoldrogeRX]

getting older is pain in the ass bro. if he doing one piece like he was used to be(like on younger age) it will be suicide. he barely sleep to fullfill the headline. 4 hours per day. spent 15-20 hours sitting on the chair is exruciating if you do that constantly for 20 years.

he need to keep the balance between happiness and stress so that he can produce excellent story and drawing. but sometimes one piece chapter is sucks im afraid because he was too tired in the mentally and phsycally.

it's amazing to see oda still work with same piece to think i've been following one piece since 2000. imho decreasing in quality and quantity can be forgiven due to his condition at this moment. he also need to focus in the annual movie and incoming live action series. so at the end of the day, he still very dedicated man who give everything to us.