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#81
King literally has shown 0 of his combat capabilities yet but you cant wait to shit on him, lol.
That's a genius move.
You don't know his combat capabilities yet you think King possesses a threat to EOS BB. You do realise that BB carries weapons as well, on top of having the abilities to break tectonic plates and creating black holes?

You cant get lower than be a traning wheel for the weak MC...
Keep crying. One lost to the MC meanwhile another gets clowned despite getting help from another Calamity.

Seriously, if it wasn't for Jack, the Calamities would portray a complete circus.

King certainly isnt that weak. Katakuri will always be the weakest of all top commanders.


King isn't weak, that's true. He's just weaker than the invincible duo. :myman:
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Haki of Blackbeard sucks, yes.
Since you mention Blackbeard's Haki, I would like to see King's Haki as well but since he literally became invisible in the background, we couldn't see much.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#83
That's a genius move.
You don't know his combat capabilities yet you think King possesses a threat to EOS BB. You do realise that BB carries weapons as well, on top of having the abilities to break tectonic plates and creating black holes?
I know that he is a top commander who happens to be a swordsman.
That's plenty to tell that he is a threat to any top tier who doesnt use a weapon.
What's a black hole gonna do, lol? What's environmental dmg going to do, lol? Both have shown as rather lame.
Yes, he used to focus on a weapon but ever since he has been focusing on DFs so...

Keep crying. One lost to the MC meanwhile another gets clowned despite getting help from another Calamity.
Seriously, if it wasn't for Jack, the Calamities would portray a complete circus.
I am not the one crying, Katakuri fans are.
Meme is getting clowned too, so what? lmao
King isn't weak, that's true. He's just weaker than the invincible duo. :myman:
As I said, you literally have 0 combat feats from King and already deciding something... You will have to wait until end of Wano to judge King.
Since you mention Blackbeard's Haki, I would like to see King's Haki as well but since he literally became invisible in the background, we couldn't see much.
Considering that he is a swordsman, his haki is just fine. Cant say the same for Blackbeard.
 
#84
I know that he is a top commander who happens to be a swordsman.
That's plenty to tell that he is a threat to any top tier who doesnt use a weapon.
What's a black hole gonna do, lol? What's environmental dmg going to do, lol? Both have shown as rather lame.
Yes, he used to focus on a weapon but ever since he has been focusing on DFs so...
So is Queen.
Go ahead and tell me these.
Pulling his mighty sword away, lol. Shattering his body, lol. Oh, is that so?
So does King lol.

I am not the one crying, Katakuri fans are.
Meme is getting clowned too, so what? lmao
If I look at this, you have more similarities to candybois than you might think of.
Big Mom gets rescued by her best feats by matching Kaido and choking Marco. Meanwhile King...

As I said, you literally have 0 combat feats from King and already deciding something...
You're already deciding that King is stronger than Katakuri and possesses still a threat to an EOS antagonist although you have 0 combat feats from King.

And no, that's not right. King and Queen tried to gang on Marco but they got clowned by the latter.

Considering that he is a swordsman, his haki is just fine.
I'm eager to see his sword skills if King stops turning invisible like Judge's son.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#85
So is Queen.
Go ahead and tell me these.
Pulling his mighty sword away, lol. Shattering his body, lol. Oh, is that so?
So does King lol.
Do I have to tell you that Queen is not a top commander or you can figure that out by yourself?
Pulling? When has black hole pulled anything? lol You wanna try that again after checking how Black hole works in the manga?
Just like the body of the guy who amplifies pain twice as others shattered when having Quake detonated inside his head? lol
No, King isnt focusing on anything else other than his sword which you have yet to see in action.
If I look at this, you have more similarities to candybois than you might think of.
Big Mom gets rescued by her best feats by matching Kaido and choking Marco. Meanwhile King...
Dont wiggle out now... Are Katakuri fans desperately trying to keep him relevant or not? After being used like a training wheel...
And King will eventually be rescued by his own combat feats when he actually starts fighting but you cant wait that long, can you?
You're already deciding that King is stronger than Katakuri and possesses still a threat to EOS Blackbeard although you have 0 combat feats from King.
And no, that's not right. King and Queen tried to gang on Marco but they got clowned by the latter.
Yes because a swordsman of King's tier is a threat to the likes of Blackbeard who will be defeated by a puncher who wont rely on his DF...
There is also the fact that King's bounty is way above Katakuri's. Good luck making a case for Katakuri when everything is against him, lol.
I'm eager to see his sword skills if King stops turning invisible like Judge's son.
Stay tuned.
 
#86
Do I have to tell you that Queen is not a top commander or you can figure that out by yourself?
Pulling? When has black hole pulled anything? lol You wanna try that again after checking how Black hole works in the manga?
Just like the body of the guy who amplifies pain twice as others shattered when having Quake detonated inside his head? lol
No, King isnt focusing on anything else other than his sword which you have yet to see in action.
Then what is Queen if he ain't a top commander?
It absorbed a whole town. Don't be desperate, lik.
Go ahead and read the manga then.
No, King is physically weaker than Blackbeard.
King didn't use his sword when tossing Big Mom's ship - something which base Marco performed as well. King didn't use his sword when fighting Judge's son. And King didn't use his sword when... okay, I think that's enough.

Dont wiggle out now... Are Katakuri fans desperately trying to keep him relevant or not? After being used like a training wheel...
And King will eventually be rescued by his own combat feats when he actually starts fighting but you cant wait that long, can you?
I won't, don't worry. Katakuri outclassed Big Mom in her own arc, yes, he was relevant. You are like these candybois still posting irrelevant memes about Judge's son although Zoro is already on the roof facing two Yonko at once. Are you sure you ain't a candyboi?
Lik, he starts fighting against Marco. Have you skipped the recent chapters? Ofc you can wait, I won't wait for +50 chapters until we see SOMETHING solid.

Yes because a swordsman of King's tier is a threat to the likes of Blackbeard who will be defeated by a puncher who wont rely on his DF...
There is also the fact that King's bounty is way above Katakuri's. Good luck making a case for Katakuri when everything is against him, lol.
Your mistake is that you wank all swordsman when the perfect solution it is to wank a few. A swordsman on King's tier doesn't exist. King has 0 combat feats, according to you.
Lol, resorting to the old bounty argument again, huh? When there isn't anything else to argue in favor of King...
 
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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#88
Remove Posthawk´s sword and he suxs ass
As sucky as Garp is I guess, because thats what Mihawk without his sword is, basically a Garp but with better CoA.
But how is that relevant to Blackbeard's haki being bad?

Then what is Queen if he ain't a top commander?
It absorbed a whole town. Don't be desperate, lik.
Go ahead and read the manga then.
No, King is physically weaker than Blackbeard.
King didn't use his sword when tossing Big Mom's ship - something which base Marco performed as well. King didn't use his sword when fighting Judge's son. And King didn't use his sword when... okay, I think that's enough.
Just an average commander just like all others who arent Katakuri, King, Beckman, Shiryu... Marco, Jozu and Vista are exceptions.
All good and nice but how is the whole town sinking into it helping Blackbeard to pull King's sword?
Yes weaker than Blackbeard but Quakes arent detonated inside his head and he isnt amplifying the pain two times.
King didnt use his sword because the plot benefits from him not using it in those situations or you want it that badly to see the son of Judge dead and all the fruit users on Mama chanter drown?

I won't, don't worry. Katakuri outclassed Big Mom in her own arc, yes, he was relevant. You are like these Sanji still posting irrelevant memes about Judge's son although Zoro is already on the roof facing two Yonko at once. Are you sure you ain't a candyboi?
Lik, he starts fighting against Marco. Have you skipped the recent chapters? Ofc you can't wait, I won't wait for +50 chapters until we see SOMETHING solid.
Not hard to outclass an overgrown child which wants to eat the cake. The bar for Katakuri was set very low. His own brother performed much better against Luffy, Nami and Seducing Woods. Any relevance that Katakuri had was to train the MC and be forgotten.
Well, I guess I have to be what you call a candyboi until Katakuri "reaches the roof" like Zoro did.
He isnt fighting Marco, he is trying to block the passage to the dome, he has yet to touch his sword and get paired with anyone who will be his fight... You will have to wait, you arent judging Katakuri either after throwing his bean but after the entire fight. That's how proper powerscalers judge things.
Your mistake is that you wank all swordsman when the perfect solution it is to wank a few. A swordsman on King's tier doesn't exist. King has 0 combat feats, according to you.
Lol, resorting to the old bounty argument again, huh? When there isn't anything else to argue in favor of King...
I do wank all swordsmen because that's what's called consistency instead of selective wanking of characters I like...
He exists just fine, you are just impatient.
I know you would like bounty to go into Katakuri's favor but it doesnt.
 
#89
Guys, Katakuri's PREVIOUS design was King level. He even had a different fruit - the powder powder no mi.

However, Oda retconned his ENTIRE characteristics, including his strength, since he should have been mirrored Luffy as the superior opponent. That's why his fruit was similar to Luffy's, that's why he had something - advanced Haki - which Luffy lacked to improve himself through the fight, since he is the underdog.

Both have CoC and both faced each other with their ideals; Katakuri sacrifying his 'freedom' and true identity in order to protect his family meanwhile Luffy doesn't give a shit about appearances and does whatever he likes. Those two IDEALS CLASHED WITH EACH OTHER - and Luffy's won at the end since Katakuri had a proper character development through the fight.

King simply doesn't have that kind of importance in the story, regardless of what he will or could show later on. People need to realise that soon and should stop putting their expectations too high.

Once again, King ain't Katakuri. He is weaker for a reason.
Here's katas original design
 
Imagine Smoothie joining in the greatest war arc instead of being used as a training wheel..oh wait. :myman:
Imagine the flying six getting more screen time than King actually. At least Queen had his subplot with the antidote whilst King is invisible on the background again. He was so invisible, Sanji fans thought that he left the war to please himself with a prostitute which would be his merienda. :myman:
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Just an average commander just like all others who arent Katakuri, King, Beckman, Shiryu... Marco, Jozu and Vista are exceptions.
All good and nice but how is the whole town sinking into it helping Blackbeard to pull King's sword?
Yes weaker than Blackbeard but Quakes arent detonated inside his head and he isnt amplifying the pain two times.
King didnt use his sword because the plot benefits from him not using it in those situations or you want it that badly to see the son of Judge dead and all the fruit users on Mama chanter drown?
No, King is your average Commander. Marco manhandled him like a toddler.
True, King sinks there as well with his sword.
That's because Oda doesn't go that gore with such moves.
The plot excuse again. Just admit you're wrong which would be less embarassing for you. So you admit that Judge's son is going to fight King?

Not hard to outclass an overgrown child which wants to eat the cake. The bar for Katakuri was set very low. His own brother performed much better against Luffy, Nami and Seducing Woods. Any relevance that Katakuri had was to train the MC and be forgotten.
Well, I guess I have to be what you call a candyboi until Katakuri "reaches the roof" like Zoro did.
He isnt fighting Marco, he is trying to block the passage to the dome, he has yet to touch his sword and get paired with anyone who will be his fight... You will have to wait, you arent judging Katakuri either after throwing his bean but after the entire fight. That's how proper powerscalers judge things.
Considering that King gets outclassed into oblivion by his own underlings, this is the last straw you should grasp at lol. How was the bar for Kata being set low when he outclassed a Yonko in her own arc whilst King just scratches his balls at best? Are you starting to wank Cracker out of desperation as well? :myman: Katakuri had the relevance to be the last commander being surpassed by the MC before he completely focuses on the top tiers. But don't worry, King has to share his relevance with Queen. That's a start at least lol.
Actually, Kata was "reaching the roof" when he was already introduced: Top Tier Haki and being the most dangerous threat in the tea party. Hell, that's already MORE than King's ENTIRE portrayal within 50 - 70 chapters! Where is his Top Tier Haki you're so proud of? Where's his omnipotent sword which you wank of? When is he going serious, even though he gets freaking manhandled by another YC1 although he's RECEIVING HELP FROM ANOTHER CALAMITY?!
Excuses again. Marco's just trying to pass through them. He doesn't intend to fight them mainly either and yet he's holding them at a headlock like children lol. Besides, Queen is at the same position. Queen has an excuse for being manhandled, King doesn't - he's supposed to outclass the other Calamities by a large margin. Okay, let's see... Katakuri in the tea party: Casually negged Ichiji, manhandled Jinbe, Bege (whom was highlighted with the other strongest supernovas btw) and Luffy at the same time, carried the tea party to save his mom's ass. All by himself. Proper powerscalers scale characters based on the most recent data and portrayal, not hypothetical blabla which is absolutely irrelevant. You say King is stronger than Katakuri yet you say he has 0 combat feats. Same here with King being a threat to EOS antagonists based on absolutely nothing. But muh swords. As if Blackbeard doesn't have weapons.

I do wank all swordsmen because that's what's called consistency instead of selective wanking of characters I like...
He exists just fine, you are just impatient.
I know you would like bounty to go into Katakuri's favor but it doesnt.
That's called consistency in spewing BS. There is really no point to wank King above Katakuri at this point. Everyone got the message but you. Yours is selective wanking, you just like swordsmen in general lol.
If King tries harder, he may appear transparent perhaps...
No, I don't care about bounties because I know their bounties are not meant to determinate their strength.
 
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