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King is stronger than


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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Then I'll keep digging my grave deeper until you won't show me a clear example of King's significant superiority to Queen.
Didn't happen. Where are the BMP right now? Meanwhile Katakuri is about to defend Tottoland from the Blackbeard pirates. :myman:
Yes, absolutely. Hell, he can kill Marco, stomp the alliance and fighting the supernovas all at once, that would be a fine start. But until that hasn't happened yet, I'm afraid King is still a victim to Marco's headlock. :kayneshrug:
Well, I can tell the truth instead: yours is trash. King got manhandled like a toddler by his counterpart. His counterpart bested his ship kicking feat while in base. That's the truth as well. ;)

I dunno, perhaps he gained full momentum with flight and thought, impaling Sanji with his beak might be better than his sword?
Yes, you have to tell me. What if King fights Sanji and uses his sword? Of course this is fitting for the plot if the strongest supernovas are busy fighting Kaido.
Of course, King the Zero Combatant beats Katakuri's FS and awakening with his imaginable swordsmanship which he hasn't shown yet.
If the naming and higher bounty arent a clear sign seems like you will be digging for a long, long time.
But it did happen. Luffy had far more help against Cracker and still did less, far less than he did to Katakuri. Cracker humiliated Luffy.
BMP are close in the waters of Wano. Katakuri is in the infirmary, helplessly awaiting death if BBPs do show up.
Let's see how the victim of headlock responds first.
The only that can be told is that you are having trouble figuring out comics for teenagers...
No, lmao. The ship kicking feat undoubtedly goes to King since the Emperor was on the ship and couldnt do anything. King performed it with nameless attack while Marco had to use named attack. See how things you claim as truth are actually lies?

In that case, Sanji dies. However, plot armor will obviously not allow it. Or that is also bullshit and you know better? lol
No, Sanji or Luffy fighting swordsmen has been unfitting for 23 years and it will stay that way until the end.
Yes, King easily beats that fragile Charlotte child. One slice ends Katakuri. King isnt as ineffective as Luffy is.

Everything about my decisions are rational. I judge by feats and portrayal, you by headcanon.
No. You already lost any credibility in debating about bounty portrayal, keep digging YOUR grave deeper tho. ;)
Sabo got his new bounty due to his Dressrosa stuff and yet, his bounty was less than Perospero. Nice try.
The last I remember, Snack was a former Sweet Commander and not Perospero. The last I remember, Ace' bounty, despite being the Commander of the second division for 2 years, was 550 mio before he died. The last I remember is Chinjao's bounty, 500 mio, despite clashing several times with Prime Garp. And Prime Chinjao buttfucks Perospero and Snack at the same time.
And yet I end up right while you end up wrong, that's how rational your decisions are...
You need proof that Zoro is stronger than Luffy the entire post TS, I dont. I am right, you are wrong. Git gud.
As I said, learn to differentiate characters with static and dynamic bounties. Until then, you will stay confused.
Sure, there are exceptions to every rule. Chinjao seems to be one of them but he seems to be one trick pony so in the end, the bounty might be fitting after all. Just because he has one good attack he doesnt deserve to have billions of bounty. In the end, Katakuri needs to prove he is above Queen, almost 300 millions difference is no joke. After all, Queen has a one-shot attack while Katakuri has not.

Great, come up with more butthurt responds, your salt is pure entertainment after all. :finally: You sure can laugh at me when King gets his 5 minutes, however, it's the question whether you can laugh at me if King's 5 minutes outclasses Katakuri's feats, importance and portrayal, no? ;)
Your MC statement is nothing but mimimi and blabla - all Luffy's opponent looked like bloody pulps after Luffy finished them but Katakuri who almost drew a draw against the MC.
More mimimi?
Cracker hid behind huge regenerative biscuit soldiers not to get hits meanwhile Katakuri always engaged Luffy in close combat, even with awakening. I realize that your amount of excuses are pathetic, yes.
Of course Cracker would bother with KKG - a move which would destroy all his biscuit soldiers and thus himself as well.
Yes, I need that because if King doesn't use his sword until he is defeated, how am I supposed to know the mighty swordsman's lethal sword skills which would impale the MC like cheese?! :cr7: Let Page One first tank Luffy's Red Rock which cracked Kaido's teeth, then we can talk. Let Page One first tank a Kong Gun which sent someone like Doflamingo flying through the city.

I know, otherwise it would be boring, no? You know that I change my stance regarding new feats and portrayal instead of relying on my already debunked headcanon. You should try it as well. Okay, I guess I have to live being blind if I cannot see the alternative reality of King babyshaking everyone with his sword. I agree, yours is long term based horseshit, you need to immediately change your way to "powerscale" characters. Which prediction about Zoro? Him being a solid top tier since the timeskip? That ain't prediction but wishful thinking. Will it help King to try killing Marco if the latter already chokes him like a bitch? I guess not. "Trashing him" is incorrect, placing him at the right place might be correct due to his zero feats and bad showing.
Zoro has feats, portrayal, skilled Haki, skilled swordsmanship and right now, he faces King. He sure has more reasons to be stronger than DR Luffy than King who apparently scratches his balls in the middle of the war and is absolutely helpless against Marco despite Queen's help. Tell me the reason why King is stronger than Katakuri, go ahead, have the balls to show me his great portrayal and skilled swordsmanship which apparently defeats Katakuri. Or it is because you... well, do not have... any facts and feats in favor of King?! :zorothink: You probably mean "factual 3-steps FS" but we can fix your mistake as well, okay?
Call it salt or whatever, it wont change the facts that Luffy sucks and his opponents look good thanks to him sucking...
Can King outclass the importance and portrayal of a training wheel? lol...
The mighty fifth emperor who failed to touch Cracker in 11 hours... Boy, that's something. Cant make that shit up, lol.
Lmao, leave that headcanon for someone who believes it. KKG wouldnt do shit. KG is required twice per biscuit soldier.
KKG wont pass the army of biscuit soldiers. Have you noticed how invincible Katakuri is worse than a biscuit soldier durability-wise?
King bodies Luffy easily, cuts his arms off as soon as Luffy tries to attack him, just like Cracker almost did.
PageOne's jaw might get dislocated by Red Rock but not sure. Kong Gun wont bother him much, just like Sanji's kicks didnt.

You dont play in the same league as I do. You are a weekly reactional character while I am making years-long predictions of the future.
One of us understands the game well, the other adjusts his arguments every week.
Zoro being a top tier since TS isnt wishful thinking but a reality.
Placing him at the "right place" changes every week for you, for me it doesnt change ever unless I definitely get proven wrong which pointless clashes certainly never do. The reason why King can beat Katakuri is because all he needs is one hit to end Katakuri, unlike the MC, and he is not an angry hothead, unlike the MC who cant calm himself down. That simple. Imaginary 3-step FS didnt help you see that? Find yourself a fella like yourself, a weekly reactional character, to argue with because arguing with long term predictions will never look good for you. You are already aware that you will have to take back everything you said for King but I guess it's too late to turn back?
 
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Jo_Ndule

There's no hype, no proof placing Marco or King above Yamato
Let alone kataluri.

If you guys are serious...tell me which Commander can match snakeman/Boundman in base/zoan form.
None.. that is all I need.

Only Yamato can do such a feat since she's a mini freak
 
There's no hype, no proof placing Marco or King above Yamato
Let alone kataluri.

If you guys are serious...tell me which Commander can match snakeman/Boundman in base/zoan form.
None.. that is all I need.

Only Yamato can do such a feat since she's a mini freak
No one commander can't react Snakeman +fs speed.Kata one of the fastest characters in op.He is definitely faster than rest yc1 lol.
 
The lack of interaction between Marco and King is understandable cause was revealed in chapter 999 that Beast Pirates and Whitebeard Pirates never met each other.
Marco's fruit is a very peculiar one and pretty insidious if you've never seen it in action, just look at the first clash between Marco and Kizaru. I still think that Marco is overall a bit stronger than King but imo we should wait before shitting on him, at the end of the day Marco just took advantage of a situation and didn't cause damage. We should call out Marco's smartass not King's weakness.
Let's see what will the pteranodon do now, he has still Hybrid/Awakening/Swordmanship in the poket
 
If the naming and higher bounty arent a clear sign seems like you will be digging for a long, long time.
But it did happen. Luffy had far more help against Cracker and still did less, far less than he did to Katakuri. Cracker humiliated Luffy.
BMP are close in the waters of Wano. Katakuri is in the infirmary, helplessly awaiting death if BBPs do show up.
Let's see how the victim of headlock responds first.
The only that can be told is that you are having trouble figuring out comics for teenagers...
No, lmao. The ship kicking feat undoubtedly goes to King since the Emperor was on the ship and couldnt do anything. King performed it with nameless attack while Marco had to use named attack. See how things you claim as truth are actually lies?

In that case, Sanji dies. However, plot armor will obviously not allow it. Or that is also bullshit and you know better? lol
No, Sanji or Luffy fighting swordsmen has been unfitting for 23 years and it will stay that way until the end.
Yes, King easily beats that fragile Charlotte child. One slice ends Katakuri. King isnt as ineffective as Luffy is.
No, that's not what I meant. I want you to prove me the fact of King being significantly stronger than Queen just like Katakuri and Smoothie. Stop dodging the question.
But it did not happen. Does not matter, Katakuri humiliated Luffy way harder than Cracker. Better hardening, better DF, awakening and FS.
That's fan-fucking-tastic. How do you know that if I may ask, now he is even going to die against the BBPs, interesting lol.
Yep, let's see.
I don't think so.
Base Marco kicking the ship away > Full Zoan King achieving the same feat. No matter whether Big Mom was here or not, she usually gets clowned a lot, even by Robin and Jinbe. Nice tryyyyyy. Named or nameless attacks are irrelevant lel. No, they are not lies.

What if he doesn't die even if King uses a sword? Plot armor is a significant part in fiction, moot point, you have to try harder.
Sure, that's why Luffy sent Cracker's ass across the island. Silly me.
King may beat potato Katakuri - you know the swordsman Katakuri? - but true Katakuri is clearly stronger than him. "Once slice ends Katakuri", so it's an imaginable feat, gotcha! How does he slice Katakuri if I may ask? :choppawhat:

And yet I end up right while you end up wrong, that's how rational your decisions are...
You need proof that Zoro is stronger than Luffy the entire post TS, I dont. I am right, you are wrong. Git gud.
As I said, learn to differentiate characters with static and dynamic bounties. Until then, you will stay confused.
Sure, there are exceptions to every rule. Chinjao seems to be one of them but he seems to be one trick pony so in the end, the bounty might be fitting after all. Just because he has one good attack he doesnt deserve to have billions of bounty. In the end, Katakuri needs to prove he is above Queen, almost 300 millions difference is no joke. After all, Queen has a one-shot attack while Katakuri has not.
You end up wrong while I end up right, that's how rational my decisions are, yes!
Of course I need evidence. How else are you supposed to bring facts in the battledome outside of your own headcanon? Everyone can claim whatever they like, at the end it only matters if there are evidence backing up your claim, otherwise I can claim Bon Clay > Zoro as well. Git gud.
As I said, there's nothing to learn about since there are several factors to static bounties as well such as the threat level for the WG. Queen is a commander who can infect whole cities with viruses and plagues meanwhile Katakuri defends his home. Until then, you will stay confused.
For which rules? As I said, there are several factors in bounties and we have the confirmation how sadistic and brutal Queen truly is, especially in terms of danger. Your Chinjao argument is nonsense, whether he is a "one trick pony" or not doesn't matter. He was a leader of a kingdom who challenged Prime Garp several times, he split an island with his signature move as well. No, he doesn't need to prove he is above Queen, he already is significantly above Queen. Portrayal and feats are in favor of Katakuri. The difference of their bounties does not matter. Lol, Queen apparently is stronger because he has a one-shot attack while you clearly miss the fact that, if Katakuri uses his Mogura, he can easily blow someone's head away which would be a one shot attack as well. To be honest, Queen IS impressive and his portrayal clearly shits on King, especially in terms of versatility. Katakuri > Queen > King/Potato Katakuri?

Call it salt or whatever, it wont change the facts that Luffy sucks and his opponents look good thanks to him sucking...
Can King outclass the importance and portrayal of a training wheel? lol...
The mighty fifth emperor who failed to touch Cracker in 11 hours... Boy, that's something. Cant make that shit up, lol.
Lmao, leave that headcanon for someone who believes it. KKG wouldnt do shit. KG is required twice per biscuit soldier.
KKG wont pass the army of biscuit soldiers. Have you noticed how invincible Katakuri is worse than a biscuit soldier durability-wise?
King bodies Luffy easily, cuts his arms off as soon as Luffy tries to attack him, just like Cracker almost did.
PageOne's jaw might get dislocated by Red Rock but not sure. Kong Gun wont bother him much, just like Sanji's kicks didnt.

You dont play in the same league as I do. You are a weekly reactional character while I am making years-long predictions of the future.
One of us understands the game well, the other adjusts his arguments every week.
Zoro being a top tier since TS isnt wishful thinking but a reality.
Placing him at the "right place" changes every week for you, for me it doesnt change ever unless I definitely get proven wrong which pointless clashes certainly never do. The reason why King can beat Katakuri is because all he needs is one hit to end Katakuri, unlike the MC, and he is not an angry hothead, unlike the MC who cant calm himself down. That simple. Imaginary 3-step FS didnt help you see that? Find yourself a fella like yourself, a weekly reactional character, to argue with because arguing with long term predictions will never look good for you. You are already aware that you will have to take back everything you said for King but I guess it's too late to turn back?
I call it salt, yes. Stay butthurt.
I'm afraid King may not even outclass the importance and portrayal of a weaker Calamity if he still sucks ass in terms of performance.
I still call it salt. Yes, Cracker's defense is versatile and good. Ask Ndule Senpai what he thinks about King and Cracker.
That’s rich coming from you. You argue with King's imaginable swordsmanship and you think I am arguing with headcanons, lol. KKG is Luffy's strongest attack, even stronger than Tank Man's Cannon Ball whose force was powerful enough to destroy several biscuit soldiers at once with Cracker's own body. Imagine KKG hitting the biscuit soldiers. This attack destroyed ALL God Threads from Doflamingo. His Off White blocked a Double Culverin. Do the math.
Of course it would, already explained above. Lmao, don't be that desperate. At least compare Katakuri's durability with Cracker's without considering the biscuit soldier's durability. They are not part of Cracker's own body meanwhile Katakuri's mochi can restrain Bound Man with ease.
Sure he would, absolutely, yep. Go ahead and spread your faxx ma boi!
His captain's teeth was cracked, Page One's skull gets easily fractured and thus he gets koed. Quite confused, aren't you? An EG couldn't do shit to Cracker's biscuit soldier meanwhile a Kong Gun broke its shields, do the math, again. Comparing Kong Guns with Sanji's mosquito AP, that's your next mistake.

I agree, I'm several leagues above you. In fact, you are not even in a league. You are just a 5 yo boi casually playing soccer, that's how big our difference is. :catsure: And which prediction came out true? Queen vs Franky? I'm looking forward it!
The one purely argues with headcanon - and thus said individual is no different to actual flatearthers - meanwhile another one purely argues with current data and facts. That's the level between us, I agree.
So he was Fujitora level since the TS? Because that's what you are implying. Hence it ain't the reality.
Depending on his performance, whether he keeps showing bad impressions each week in front of Marco, I may not even change by stance regarding his powerlevel. It doesn't even change for you even after both King and Queen looked helpless against Marco. Imagine showing that pathetic performance in front of another first mate in which you cannot even deal jackshit with ANOTHER calamity. Once again, baseless. We haven't seen everything from Marco's BDSM bitch and with his 0 feats, he won't achieve jackshit. I'd recommend you to start debating on realistic levels instead of your irrelevant blabla, okay? Irrelevant, didn't help him much when Marco choked him, the only difference is, if Marco chokes him, he may survive, if Katakuri buries him with tons of mochi to suffocate him, he will die. How does it matter whether the MC is calm or not? Marco's BDSM slave cannot slice Katakuri up regardless because of his FS and shapeshifting. That's simple. The factual 3 steps FS helped me to see through your bullshit, yes. :myman: I'd like to but wouldn't it boring to debate with rational fellas? Debating with the delluded lik87 is much funnier because I have something to laugh about. :suresure: Bold part, holy crap, you seriously didn't write this shit, did you? Oh shit, debating against garbage long term headcanon sure won't look good for me, dude seriously wrote that lmfao. If King shows feats and portrayal comparable to Katakuri, I will take everything back. That ain't a problem for me. But let me guess, YOUR ego wouldn't allow you this kind of self-reflection?
 
The disregard for Conqueror's Haki is hilarious bordering on stupid. Look at all Pirate Subordinates with CoC:

Rayleigh, Oden, Ace, all Yonko level potential. Katakuri is not quite there, but even placed in that group, shows how highly Oda regards him.
 
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