Character Discussion Why Monster Trio dynamic will never change and why it's one of the best things OP has to offer?

Julius

Julius

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#141
These clowns above are trying to fill the gap between Queen and Who's Who, which is big, with some unnamed fodder that is Gifter level at most and that Sanji never had problem with even when he supposedly should, but Jinbei and Franky did.

Why do you think the fodder said "It's Queen's hybrid form, get out!!" but Sanji didn't even cared?

Who's Who crew must be 50x weaker than Doflamingo's
The Copium is too much :kobeha: :josad:


And they use their headcanons like "his kicks aren't working", when Sanji made Queen go hybrid with 2 fucking attacks in just a few minutes and K.Oed Perospero in the process, an opponent of Who's Who~Sasaki Caliber.

Sanji can't ever use the Raid Suit, but Zoro can use Enma against King? (as he said he needs to get better with it, and he will). Where is the logic in this? Well, some Zorobois are pretty bad with this thing, unfortunately. To some of them, Enma isn't even a power up lol :vistalaugh: :kaidowhat:
 
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The White Crane

The White Crane

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#142
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Vinsmoke D. Zolo said:
These clowns above are trying to fill the gap between Queen and Who's Who, which is big, with some unnamed fodder that is Gifter level at most and that Sanji never had problem with, but Jinbei and Franky did.
The Copium is too much :kobeha: :kobeha:

And they use their headcanons like "his kicks aren't working", when Sanji made Queen go hybrid with 2 fucking attacks in just a few minutes and K.Oed Perospero an opponent of Who's Who/Sasaki Caliber in the process.

Sanji can't ever use the Raid Suit, but Zoro can use Enma against King (as he said he needs to get better with it). Where is the logic in this? Well, some Zorobois are pretty bad with this thing, unfortunately
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Sanji still featless individually against top tiers, but, sure, believe Sanji > Jinbei all you want if that helps you sleep at night. :mihanha:
 
Julius

Julius

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#143
#143
The White Crane said:
Sanji still featless individually against top tiers, but, sure, believe Sanji > Jinbei all you want if that helps you sleep at night. :mihanha:
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Thats literally the only thing Luffy and Sanji managed to do against Big Mom in WCI, Luffy and Sanji were the first ones to clash against her in a serious way, keep in mind she isn't starving or in hunger pangs mode here. So Luffy, the Captain, and Sanji, the Left hand, clashed against an Younko for the first time with the same goal, deal with this.


Sanji was protecting Reiju, there was no reason for him to fight Big Mom, Big Mom basicly got ignored in the rooftop, Luffy didn't even bothered with her. Nami, Brook, Franky and Jinbei all of them got moments against Hunger Pangs BM retarded mode and some of them against her "normal state", and it doesn't mean shit to the powerscaling, just memes. Sanji isn't hitting women either. Stop using pre-TS Jinbei to compare, pre-TS Jinbei was stronger than the whole crew.
 
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Warchief Sanji D Goat

Warchief Sanji D Goat

Queen Gunko!➡️⬆️⬇️⬅️
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The White Crane said:
In all fairness, WW had to bridge his gap against Jinbei using his crew just to hurt Jinbei a little.

Sanji dealt two attacks on Queen's face so far and you can see that both left no noticeable damage (just like all of Chopper's attacks on Queen).

I'm just saying that it's WW who has to prove himself against Jinbei (not the other way around) just like it's Sanji who has to prove himself against Queen (not the other way around).

Also, remember that Jinbei fought Ace who was a YC2 to a draw four years ago and I highly doubt current Jinbei is weaker than Jinbei four years ago. So that means, we know Jinbei scales around YC1-YC2 and WW doing his best scales around YC2-YC3. Since Queen is a YC2 and Sanji is doing his best, Sanji must scale around WW's power level as well.
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"Hurt a little"





"Noticeable damage"



Man, I guess the Supernova didn't damage Kaido at the beginning then?


Sanji's attacks makes Queen go "Ughh" and even broke his skull/teeth.

Third point I agree, both Jinbei and Sanji have to prove themselves.

And how does Jinbei scales from YC1-YC2 just because he fought with Ace?
And Who's Who YC2?


Man can't even take out Drake without asking for Queen's help.
 
Taper

Taper

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#145
#145
Love how everyone is questioning the power and position of arguably one of the most impressive commanders we have seen thus far and without a doubt the most dangerous calamity. Queen has proven his bounty, position and epithet through both "feats" and portrayal and yet WsW a dude who is nigh featless beyond holding Jinbei off with his crew is given the benefit of the doubt and placed on his level if not above, yet King who has done next to nothing besides losing MoMo the key to victory, getting disarmed by Izo and getting kneed into a building is safe and secure placed not only above WsW but faaaaaaaaaar above Queen; I won't take this debate seriously, you people were barking for months about FEATS FEATS!.....ok.......what are Queens feats?: surviving 1v1 against a enraged Linlin and capturing her (closest one to knocking her clean out), stopping Luffy and Zoro from getting to the rooftop, almost killing Luffy with a poison that he created, butchering the live floor with his ice oni plague which was only countered by sheer plot convenience, ambushing X-Drake and taking him out with a swing or two of his cutlass, tanking a multitude of named attacks from Marco (on panel)then was seen clean and unaffected, being feared and obeyed by supernovas and toying with MP chopper then was on his way to kill him. So take those feats and tell me what WsW has done, hell what has King done that is as impressive.....why don't you put King into question the way you do Queen?......is kicking a boat and pushing Sanji into a building doing no damage really enough to set him far above a WsW that is fighting a dude who apparently took on Yonkos, Admirals and Warlords?........you see how it comes off as hypocritical and straight up bias. At least we learned that giving a dude black wings, a sword and giving him as much personality as a gargoyle is enough of a feat to put him above a dude who has actually proven himself but hey he is fat and has a personality so he is a gag character.
 
Warchief Sanji D Goat

Warchief Sanji D Goat

Queen Gunko!➡️⬆️⬇️⬅️
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#146
#146
Taper said:
Love how everyone is questioning the power and position of arguably one of the most impressive commanders we have seen thus far and without a doubt the most dangerous calamity. Queen has proven his bounty, position and epithet through both "feats" and portrayal and yet WsW a dude who is nigh featless beyond holding Jinbei off with his crew is given the benefit of the doubt and placed on his level if not above, yet King who has done next to nothing besides losing MoMo the key to victory, getting disarmed by Izo and getting kneed into a building is safe and secure placed not only above WsW but faaaaaaaaaar above Queen; I won't take this debate seriously, you people were barking for months about FEATS FEATS!.....ok.......what are Queens feats?: surviving 1v1 against a enraged Linlin and capturing her (closest one to knocking her clean out), stopping Luffy and Zoro from getting to the rooftop, almost killing Luffy with a poison that he created, butchering the live floor with his ice oni plague which was only countered by sheer plot convenience, ambushing X-Drake and taking him out with a swing or two of his cutlass, tanking a multitude of named attacks from Marco (on panel)then was seen clean and unaffected, being feared and obeyed by supernovas and toying with MP chopper then was on his way to kill him. So take those feats and tell me what WsW has done, hell what has King done that is as impressive.....why don't you put King into question the way you do Queen?......is kicking a boat and pushing Sanji into a building doing no damage really enough to set him far above a WsW that is fighting a dude who apparently took on Yonkos, Admirals and Warlords?........you see how it comes off as hypocritical and straight up bias. At least we learned that giving a dude black wings, a sword and giving him as much personality as a gargoyle is enough of a feat to put him above a dude who has actually proven himself but hey he is fat and has a personality so he is a gag character.
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Can't wait for "Greenbull is a gag character" or "Kizaru is a gag character" threads if Sanji face one of them. @Kuro Ashi :milaugh:
 
matt245

matt245

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#148
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Kuro Ashi said:
"Greenbull is by far the weakest admiral. Oda did not let him eat anything for two whole years to nerf him for the fight with Sanji :yasu: "

"Fujitora > Greenbull >>>>> Starved Greenbull"
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Don't jump to conclusions that fast. Greenbull could perfectly be either the strongest Admiral ever or the weakest one. Plus the fact that there's 0 proof that puts him as Sanji's next opponent. And depending on his df, food might not be a requirement anymore to him.
 
Kuro Ashi

Kuro Ashi

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matt245 said:
Don't jump to conclusions that fast. Greenbull could perfectly be either the strongest Admiral ever or the weakest one. Plus the fact that there's 0 proof that puts him as Sanji's next opponent. And depending on his df, food might not be a requirement anymore to him.
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Food, women and maybe a Vegapunk connection are the only things you learned from his introduction.

He's Sanji's opponent 100% :milaugh:

And because of that he will be argued to be the only non top tier Admiral by some posters on this forum :suresure:
 
mrtsrdr

mrtsrdr

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Kai. Do said:
Lmao, let's not take this conversation out of control and out of context. The original discussion was about Jinbe getting injured while facing Who's Who and all of his subordinates and whether or not its okay. Which is something that a lot of Straw Hats have had to deal with in their fights against the beast pirates, not just Jinbe alone.

Sanji gets a feat this arc of kicking Queen in the head while Jinbe is getting shot at from afar and then people take it as the sole evidence in determining their strengths and limitations.

Perospero was already heavily injured to begin with. He just lost his arm last arc, fought Carrot and Wanda into the night, while also getting cut in the face in the process. The man was already almost out of juice, getting knocked out by a 28 tonne dinosaur shouldn't be surprising.

Queen had also taken damage from Chopper and Marco before facing Sanji. Jinbei is fighting Who's Who that is still fresh.
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You read very well . I congrat. Why did you write sanji case ?
Sanji took hit from King and Black Maria hit with Iron so many times . When he carrying zoro , he fought gifters and made entrance.

Prospero injured queen injured this kind of things just is stupid.

Don't scare sanji SAVED alliance with ONE KICK. And he also sent Prospero out of fight.


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Vinsmoke D. Zolo said:
These clowns above are trying to fill the gap between Queen and Who's Who, which is big, with some unnamed fodder that is Gifter level at most and that Sanji never had problem with even when he supposedly should, but Jinbei and Franky did.

Why do you think the fodder said "It's Queen's hybrid form, get out!!" but Sanji didn't even cared?

Who's Who crew must be 50x weaker than Doflamingo's
The Copium is too much :kobeha: :josad:


And they use their headcanons like "his kicks aren't working", when Sanji made Queen go hybrid with 2 fucking attacks in just a few minutes and K.Oed Perospero in the process, an opponent of Who's Who~Sasaki Caliber.

Sanji can't ever use the Raid Suit, but Zoro can use Enma against King? (as he said he needs to get better with it, and he will). Where is the logic in this? Well, some Zorobois are pretty bad with this thing, unfortunately. To some of them, Enma isn't even a power up lol :vistalaugh: :kaidowhat:
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Just askt them. Why did shanks cut Kaido.
Probably they said zoro is stronger than shanks.d.d.d.d
But in reality , enma have huge power
 
Finalbeta

Finalbeta

Ging Freecss stan
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Vinsmoke D. Zolo said:
These clowns above are trying to fill the gap between Queen and Who's Who, which is big, with some unnamed fodder that is Gifter level at most and that Sanji never had problem with even when he supposedly should, but Jinbei and Franky did.

Why do you think the fodder said "It's Queen's hybrid form, get out!!" but Sanji didn't even cared?

Who's Who crew must be 50x weaker than Doflamingo's
The Copium is too much :kobeha: :josad:


And they use their headcanons like "his kicks aren't working", when Sanji made Queen go hybrid with 2 fucking attacks in just a few minutes and K.Oed Perospero in the process, an opponent of Who's Who~Sasaki Caliber.

Sanji can't ever use the Raid Suit, but Zoro can use Enma against King? (as he said he needs to get better with it, and he will). Where is the logic in this? Well, some Zorobois are pretty bad with this thing, unfortunately. To some of them, Enma isn't even a power up lol :vistalaugh: :kaidowhat:
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Be wary, the gap between Queen and King might also be Big.

I'm curious to witness the intrinsic value of those bounties for starters. :sanmoji:
 
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