Future Events Why splitting up the yonko does make sense

#21
I honestly think it's too soon for that. As much as people hate the prospect of Big Mom for a third arc, her storyline must be resolved in Elbaf, in my opinion. Oda gave her way too much of a connection to the place for her not to be apart of the arc in some capacity.
wouldnt it make sense then for her to be taken out of this fight as olin
the implication of what you are stating here
is that those other three just stall her then no?
 
#22
The way I see it, is Luffy and Zoro will lure Kaido away, and Kid, Killer, and Law will be left to deal with Big Mom. The rest of the Straw Hats will make it to Kaido, and the rest of the Heart and Kid Pirates will make it to Big Mom to join their Captains.

This was the setup on Sabaody vs the Pacifistas. The Straw Hats vs a Pacifista, and the Heart/Kid Pirates vs a Pacifista. Only here it will be the same thing but against the Yonko's.
Yamato will arrive when BM leaves
 
#23
wouldnt it make sense then for her to be taken out of this fight as olin
the implication of what you are stating here
is that those other three just stall her then no?
I just can't see how Oda would currently go about turning her into O-Lin again. Lack of Oxygen to the brain is one method of inducing amnesia, and that's why it made sense for it when she almost drowned. But what can any of these guys really do that would give Big Mom amnesia again? I think if O-Lin was to come back it would have to be in a permanent fashion, and one that can't simply be taken away by her recovering her memories. This is what I am hoping Oda is setting up for her character to be resolved on Elbaf, as there is not enough time to pull it off on Wano, when she's honestly only meant to be a secondary antagonist here.
 
#26
Depends on how.

If they split them without splitting themselves, then it works.

But the question is how? Big mom can fly, as well as Kaido, so using Law's power to BFR them won't work.

They need to split them by distracting one of them with something and luring one of them to somewhere else.

Rooftop 5 looks like a fail so far.
 
#27
You are using dragon Kaido who can't block an attack to prove your point? lol because they can't win even against one with there current level their attacks barely gave Kaido some bruises even though they attacked him countless times starting from Red Roc till now and he will recover as always meanwhile they are tired and injured they will lose soon then the act ends :goyea:
 
#28
if law can shambles himself with someone stronger than him like doflamingo (which he did in Dressrosa) then surely he can throw himself nearly off the roof & do shambles with Big mom & since Onigashima is floating right now so Big Mom will get end up being thrown from the roof as well as the entire island into the sea (perespero & rest of BM pirates see BM falling into the sea & so end up prioritising saving her instead of joining the war to teach SHs a lesson). Even after she gets taken out from the sea which must take quite some time , even then she will be very weak for a lot of time.

And so Kaido vs 5 SN + Yamato + Marco(reseting atleast Zoro & Luffy with say his awakened DF healing powers while kaido continues to take damage ) would make up for a pretty believable win by the Supernovas.

otherwise there is no way to win against 2 yonkos irrespective of facing them together or facing them separately.

If BM doesnt get thrown off the roof & into the sea then the only way the SNs can win is with the arrival of a third party like Dragon,Sabo,Ivankov,RA commanders (the entire lot arriving together)etc.
 
#30
Just like it weakness the supernovas.

Luffy takes advantage of supernovas and is able to rest for ten minutes.

Law was easily defeated by Doffy, Kid can't damage Kaido, killer can only tickle Kaido. How the hell are Luffy and Zoro going to defeat one of the Emperors when Luffy couldn't even defeat Katakuri + the gear 4th time limit.
Oda is cappin with g4 still having time limit at this stage of story. CoA upgrade of Luffy could have been a logical way to remove the non-haki period:kayneshrug:

Against Commander lvl it was understandable that G4 had a limit on it as it was too good at that lvl. BUT now? its not anything special considering what he is going against. a full session of Luffy's haki did fk all against Kaido who was in that shitass Dragon form(and it gets worse when we remember that the healing factor of Kaido is too good. i mean the damaged area from Paradise Totsuka of scabbard looks super clean. no sign of any bruise let alone bleeding).
instead of keeping the timelimit Oda could have Luffy just going back and forth between his G4 and base aaaand maybe G2+G3 combo stacking thus micromanaging his Stamina.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#31
The way I see it, is Luffy and Zoro will lure Kaido away, and Kid, Killer, and Law will be left to deal with Big Mom. The rest of the Straw Hats will make it to Kaido, and the rest of the Heart and Kid Pirates will make it to Big Mom to join their Captains.

This was the setup on Sabaody vs the Pacifistas. The Straw Hats vs a Pacifista, and the Heart/Kid Pirates vs a Pacifista. Only here it will be the same thing but against the Yonko's.
Few things.
Why would kaido just follow luffy and zoro and not meme who chased him here from Totland ?

Kidd would only take meme if he accepts he can't hurt kaido to the rest can you see that happening?

If big mom leaves this fight now without doing much of anything this is absolute garbage writing. What the fuck was the point in bringing her here
 
#32
I just can't see how Oda would currently go about turning her into O-Lin again. Lack of Oxygen to the brain is one method of inducing amnesia, and that's why it made sense for it when she almost drowned. But what can any of these guys really do that would give Big Mom amnesia again? I think if O-Lin was to come back it would have to be in a permanent fashion, and one that can't simply be taken away by her recovering her memories. This is what I am hoping Oda is setting up for her character to be resolved on Elbaf, as there is not enough time to pull it off on Wano, when she's honestly only meant to be a secondary antagonist here.
inb4 Law can now cause amnesia with his DF. His df is the perfect synonym for deus ex machina:pepelit:
its the df with most random bullshit power:pepemwai:
 
#33
Splitting the Yonko up is retarded. The Worst Gen are weaker than the Yonko and they need the advantage of advanced numbers and teamwork more than the Yonko do.

And from a plot perspective we have absolutely no reason to care about anyone other than Luffy fighting Big Mom, and Luffy obviously isn‘t leaving Kaido. There was three solid chapters of the rooftop fight to setup Big amom vs Kid and it just didn’t happen.

It’s going to be a 5 vs 1 with Olin coming back.
 
#38
Splitting the Yonko up is retarded. The Worst Gen are weaker than the Yonko and they need the advantage of advanced numbers and teamwork more than the Yonko do.

And from a plot perspective we have absolutely no reason to care about anyone other than Luffy fighting Big Mom, and Luffy obviously isn‘t leaving Kaido. There was three solid chapters of the rooftop fight to setup Big amom vs Kid and it just didn’t happen.

It’s going to be a 5 vs 1 with Olin coming back.
Indeed if it’s not Luffy then it should be garp not big mom becoming o Lin

oda brings big mom in wano just for her to not do anything...ridiculous
O Lin was a plot tool as much as hunger bangs big mom and starving big mom were. Not to mention Olin only happened after she drowned in the depths of ocean. Kaido might actually die because of that lol.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#39
Indeed if it’s not Luffy then it should be garp not big mom becoming o Lin

oda brings big mom in wano just for her to not do anything...ridiculous
O Lin was a plot tool as much as hunger bangs big mom and starving big mom were. Not to mention Olin only happened after she drowned in the depths of ocean. Kaido might actually die because of that lol.
Kaido would be fine in the water. He has a mythical fish fruit. In fact he can probably use his flame clouds to make him move underwater too.
 
#40
It doesn't make sense at all. By splitting up they actually make it even worse... we have 5 supernovas vs two Emperors, if they fight them individually, then that would mean that one side will be weakened. 3 supernovas vs one Emperor and only two supernovas vs the second Emperor.

On top of that, by splitting up, you will be forced to fight whiteout rest when in 5 vs 2 you can take some time to rest. The idea of splitting up the Yonko is too stupid.
Logically if they separate them they can devise tactics and coordinate movements to actually stand a chance, Law can be primarily assist and ig he understands that since his ability is well suited for it... luffy and zoro, kid and killer will use hit and evade tactics against BM and kaido and disrupt the Yonko's focus on them which effective blows.. which can also catch the Yonko's off guard


The fact that they agreed to this is coz theyy can't fight both at the same time which they emphasized in the this chap....

why do u think its not a great idea.. when they themselves agree that they won't be able to out a dent against the 2 of them together.
 
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