Why the constant need to downplay female characters.

[ShinichiMugi]

Its the opposite. These 2 characters get a lot of hate.
You are just pissed that every thread made to slander them blows up in your faces.
I get it, its frustrating. You can barely argue against Mihawk and Zoro. Its hard to argue against success.
Mihawk is the only current characters who stands on top. Who reach his goal waiting for someone stronger than him. Shanks failed to do so. Zoro will eventually beat him which also leaves little room to slander him.
It is what it is. Deal with it.

You cant argue with success,right. Thats why Kidd and Law victory against Big Mom was always downplayed.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

This is true for most shounen manga. Its simply due to huge cast , it becomes more obvious in one piece.

 

[RiShin]

Anyway I'm glad newer series like Spy Family treats their female characters very well. And Black Clover shows you can write a great woman character because she is written like a man...
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It's not a stereotype it's literally a female criminal. Oda's not an American., for the rest of the world paring people with roles that are common sense isn't offensive. A woman using her sexuality to her advantage is the same as a man using brute force to... fight. Oda has dropped the ball alot on race and sex cause he doesn't know any better though he made Boa a strong interesting character. The problem is the fans have a perpetual third grade mindset.

I remember being a little kid and not like seeing women in cartoons; the fans have the same mindset. Then as I developed and got horny as hell oli liked to see women as sexual o jests in fiction. Though I developed even further and now I know there's only two genders. Male and Female and the spectrum of interesting reaches both sides. Boa is a strong interesting character and the fans are either A stuck in a little kids mindset or B stuck in a little kids mindset and wrapped up into current day brainwashing that liking a sexy female character is somehow simping.

Boa is an asshole because she's a pirate and lives in a world where everyone is out to destroy her and her island of thousands of people. She's become ruthless because it benefits her position. It's oda's Disneyland type bullshit that makes people think they can walk around like Luffy and things will just work out.

Boa is a good character because she's balanced. Ridiculously strong and fast has training in haki from her village and Rayleigh and a completely busted devil fruit that makes her more dangerous to anybody in the verse than even Kaw's fruit. Even still she's not the strongest or fastest or has the best Haki. Hell she doesn't even have the best devil fruit. She just has extremely high and balanced stats and the fact that a yonkou admitted that she could possibly defeat him in accordance to every working brainchild on the planet calls for her to be scaled to about around Yonkou level even if it's beneath said level.

Cat burglars can be male or female though, I just use Cat woman or Black cat becsuse those two are the most famous in fiction in my mind. Lolz
Anyway to Boa Hancock, I don't know but she can obviously hold her own against any high tier but she does fall flat to any top tier imho.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

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You cant argue with success,right. Thats why Kidd and Law victory against Big Mom was always downplayed.

There are people on this forum who genuinely believe king would win against big mom hahahahahah

 

[trav]

You cant argue with success,right. Thats why Kidd and Law victory against Big Mom was always downplayed.

Certainly not by me.
Law and Kidd are also not "everyone else".
Luffy gets wanked. Shanks gets wanked. Admirals get wanked. Yonko get wanked.

Bring up good aguments and people are willing to listen.
Make dumb statements and you get ridiculed.

 

[grey matter]

I don't think Oda sucks at writing women, he writes them differently because they are different.

Am I mistaken or do women not use their beauty to get ahead? Boa Hancock

Did female monarchs not arrange marriages to create powerful alliances and offspring? Big Mom

Do men not tend to follow around females because they're hot? Hina

Yes some of these characters suck, but it's an individual thing; Boa is a meme character in the same way that Buggy is they both suck and it has nothing to do with their sex. And lmao she is not Luffy's 'love interest' that was just a shitty assessment.

But ones like Monet, Vivi or Robin happen to be some of the best written characters in the show.

Basically just this.

Some dudes (probably from west) want males and females to be written the same even tho they're quite different (which I doubt they'll acknowledge).

 

[RiShin]

Basically just this.

Some dudes (probably from west) want males and females to be written the same even tho they're quite different (which I doubt they'll acknowledge).

The kicker is.. this is fantasy where gender boundaries shouldn't exist.
A woman can dream about being the strongest in the world because the author wills it. However for an sexist who like to handicap his woman character or make them out to be a joke to her peers is ridiculous. Cough cough Linlin

Anyone that read Black Clover should know who Mereoleona Vermillion is. She is a woman but she is written like a "steorytype" man in shonen stories. And she is hugely popular because of it and it shows that woman aren't that different compare to men in RL.
We have woman who wants to be the strongest or best in something. So they grind their life way to accomplish said goals.
So how are woman and men different? The only difference is the body but the mind can act the same way.

 

[Buusatan94]

You certainely won't find a Toph, an Azula or a Kyoshi in One Piece.

 

[RiShin]

You certainely won't find a Toph, an Azula or a Kyoshi in One Piece.

Or a Yor Forger or Fiona Frost or heck an Anya Forger in Spy Family.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Or a Yor Forger or Fiona Frost or heck an Anya Forger in Spy Family.

Chimney>Anya

 

[Moegara]

Or a Yor Forger

Thank God.

 

[Yoho]

Or a Yor Forger or Fiona Frost or heck an Anya Forger in Spy Family.

Or a Rebecca Lee unfortunately

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

I can understand Big mom and Smoothie Oda did them dirty. Even Yamato as she's clearly stronger than Zoro so I know why you have to try hard. Though Boa.. she's literally zluffy's love interest in the story and that normally gets a character a pass.

She's legit got some of the best geats in the manga yet yall go through the most ridiculous lengths to down play her. I even saw somebody call her a glass cannon yet she's never been hit in the manga so what compels someone to make things up like that. Doflamingo legit seemed scared of tsuru but fans can't seem to even comprehend that as a possibilty.

boa neg diffed blackbeards entire yonko crew and would have continued putting up a fight. blackbeard even said he'd lose if he didnt sneak her. shes yonko tier
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Smoothie literally did nothing despite being Big Mom's 2nd commander. You can argue she was only there for ass shots.
Hell you can argue a few women are made for perverted shots of their bodies. Lot of women in Egghead show that.
Anyway, what's even worse is how Oda just has Hancock get sneaked and clapped by BB, while Ace Law 2HP Whitebeard all do way better than her against him.
Though I suppose you can interpret that as a compliment to her.. Somehow.
Doesn't excuse all the other sexist shit though.

exactly, smoothie wasnt really doing shit so you cant powerscale. but she's obviously strong.
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You certainely won't find a Toph, an Azula or a Kyoshi in One Piece.

yeah, there's less pedo bait in one piece. nothing as fucked up as toph's animators zooming in on her bare feet in slow motion every episode.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

boa neg diffed blackbeards entire yonko crew and would have continued putting up a fight. blackbeard even said he'd lose if he didnt sneak her. shes yonko tier

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

yamato isnt stronger than zoro , clearly weaker .

only valid take here is on hancock.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

nothing as fucked up as toph's animators zooming in on her bare feet in slow motion every episode.

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