Break Week Why was Mihawk‘s presence in Marineford so lackluster?
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If you think Shanks is an Emperor and you think Mihawk is a YC4 level fraud, you're just a hater, it's that simple
Because it makes 0 sense for the story
Why would Mihawk and Shanks fights be legendary even to Yonkous when Mihawk was a YC4 level? lmao
Why would Zoro have any trouble achieving his final dream when he has already defeated YC1 King, right hand man to the worlds strongest creature?
Why would Mihawk even be considered the World's Strongest Swordsman if anyone can defeat him by this logic?
Would the marines send a massive fleet, bigger than all other Warlords, to capture Mihawk if he was just a YC4 fraud?
It just sounds like complete Mihawk hate, there's no logic behind it
Because it makes 0 sense for the story
Why would Mihawk and Shanks fights be legendary even to Yonkous when Mihawk was a YC4 level? lmao
Why would Zoro have any trouble achieving his final dream when he has already defeated YC1 King, right hand man to the worlds strongest creature?
Why would Mihawk even be considered the World's Strongest Swordsman if anyone can defeat him by this logic?
Would the marines send a massive fleet, bigger than all other Warlords, to capture Mihawk if he was just a YC4 fraud?
It just sounds like complete Mihawk hate, there's no logic behind it
Man, you can love Luffy and Shanks however you like, you can overhype and overpower them as much as you want
But there's no reason to try and shit Mihawk like this
In fact, Mihawk being stronger only makes Shanks stronger
If you wanna say Shanks is above Mihawk, that's fine, but you still have to understand they were rivals, so however strong Shanks is, Mihawk wouldn't be that far behind, maybe one tier bellow
What is the logic behind Shanks being a Emperor and you guys saying Mihawk is a fraud weaker than a YC4? Zoro's final goal and dream is to beat a YC4, when he already has defeated a YC1 of the World's Strongest Creature
It makes no sense at all
It just sounds like pure weak hatred
But there's no reason to try and shit Mihawk like this
In fact, Mihawk being stronger only makes Shanks stronger
If you wanna say Shanks is above Mihawk, that's fine, but you still have to understand they were rivals, so however strong Shanks is, Mihawk wouldn't be that far behind, maybe one tier bellow
What is the logic behind Shanks being a Emperor and you guys saying Mihawk is a fraud weaker than a YC4? Zoro's final goal and dream is to beat a YC4, when he already has defeated a YC1 of the World's Strongest Creature
It makes no sense at all
It just sounds like pure weak hatred
If Shanks offers to ally with Mihawk (since he lost his position), then it makes sense they are closer to being "equal" (let's say Shanks is sliiiightly stronger for different reasons other than swordsmanship and being a Luffy fight). Shanks already has Ben Beckmann, who clearly isn't a swordsman and seems to fit the mold of a Sanji opponent more than anything.
Idk, if you think of it in this context, it makes it very easy to see how Mihawk will be very important to the endgame (if you believe Shanks is Luffy's endgame post One Piece).
Man, you can love Luffy and Shanks however you like, you can overhype and overpower them as much as you want
But there's no reason to try and shit Mihawk like this
In fact, Mihawk being stronger only makes Shanks stronger
If you wanna say Shanks is above Mihawk, that's fine, but you still have to understand they were rivals, so however strong Shanks is, Mihawk wouldn't be that far behind, maybe one tier bellow
What is the logic behind Shanks being a Emperor and you guys saying Mihawk is a fraud weaker than a YC4? Zoro's final goal and dream is to beat a YC4, when he already has defeated a YC1 of the World's Strongest Creature
It makes no sense at all
It just sounds like pure weak hatred
But there's no reason to try and shit Mihawk like this
In fact, Mihawk being stronger only makes Shanks stronger
If you wanna say Shanks is above Mihawk, that's fine, but you still have to understand they were rivals, so however strong Shanks is, Mihawk wouldn't be that far behind, maybe one tier bellow
What is the logic behind Shanks being a Emperor and you guys saying Mihawk is a fraud weaker than a YC4? Zoro's final goal and dream is to beat a YC4, when he already has defeated a YC1 of the World's Strongest Creature
It makes no sense at all
It just sounds like pure weak hatred
The problem is, that would suggest an extreme lack of relevance in the final war. Mihawk was only "relevant" to Marineford because he was a Shichibukai.
He can't just be a "lone wolf" in the endgame. If he's going to fight in the war, then he needs to pick a side (of however many there are). He needs to be relevant, not irrelevant until his fight with Zoro, that's bad character development for someone who's existed since Chapter 50.
He can't just be a "lone wolf" in the endgame. If he's going to fight in the war, then he needs to pick a side (of however many there are). He needs to be relevant, not irrelevant until his fight with Zoro, that's bad character development for someone who's existed since Chapter 50.
When has any character in this series been like this lmao. He's not "just" in the story for Zoro. He's in the story because of his connections to other characters.
This is such a weird argument. You'd rather he be irrelevant and only simping for Zoro, than have actual depth and real goals in accordance to the endgame.
The Yonko didn't just exist for Luffy to beat them. No, they all are the strongest pirates with their own goals.
This is such a weird argument. You'd rather he be irrelevant and only simping for Zoro, than have actual depth and real goals in accordance to the endgame.
The Yonko didn't just exist for Luffy to beat them. No, they all are the strongest pirates with their own goals.
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It does feel like that would be Mihawk's character arc though
Think about it
We start the story with Mihawk being a lone wolf that is completely focused on his power and finding somebody worthy to have legendary duels again
Then he meets Zoro, a young man who has a strong will just like his and also shares the same "lone wolf" qualities and single minded determination to become stronger, so he shows him their gap and motivates him to get stronger and find him again
Zoro tries to become stronger, and he does, but he's motivations change, he now fights for Luffy and the crew first and his dream second, and yet he still fails against Kuma / Sabaody, he wasn't strong enough to save them there
Mihawk sees how Luffy, even though he is weaker, gets so much done in Marineford because he is able to turn powerful people into his allies, Mihawk is impressed by this special ability of Luffy. In fact, this boy was saved from his mighty sword even if he was much weaker than Mihawk.
So Zoro appears in front of Mihawk and kneels asking him to train him, because Zoro values more getting stronger to help Luffy and the crew, than just getting stronger without Mihawk to fight him. That shakes Mihawk's mindset, because that young man had a very strong determination yet Luffy and the crew made him change his priorities.
So in this two years, Mihawk accepts teaching Zoro and also lets Perona live there with them, he starts forming bonds with the two and we even see that he cares enough for Perona to tell her to stay safe
So Mihawk joining Shanks in an alliance during the final war and forming a small crew with Perona after the story end makes a lot of sense, it would be a character arc that goes from a Lone Wolf to someone that believes in having a group and fighting for other people.
Mihawk would learn how he could become even stronger by watching both Zoro and Luffy.
It works for me!
Think about it
We start the story with Mihawk being a lone wolf that is completely focused on his power and finding somebody worthy to have legendary duels again
Then he meets Zoro, a young man who has a strong will just like his and also shares the same "lone wolf" qualities and single minded determination to become stronger, so he shows him their gap and motivates him to get stronger and find him again
Zoro tries to become stronger, and he does, but he's motivations change, he now fights for Luffy and the crew first and his dream second, and yet he still fails against Kuma / Sabaody, he wasn't strong enough to save them there
Mihawk sees how Luffy, even though he is weaker, gets so much done in Marineford because he is able to turn powerful people into his allies, Mihawk is impressed by this special ability of Luffy. In fact, this boy was saved from his mighty sword even if he was much weaker than Mihawk.
So Zoro appears in front of Mihawk and kneels asking him to train him, because Zoro values more getting stronger to help Luffy and the crew, than just getting stronger without Mihawk to fight him. That shakes Mihawk's mindset, because that young man had a very strong determination yet Luffy and the crew made him change his priorities.
So in this two years, Mihawk accepts teaching Zoro and also lets Perona live there with them, he starts forming bonds with the two and we even see that he cares enough for Perona to tell her to stay safe
So Mihawk joining Shanks in an alliance during the final war and forming a small crew with Perona after the story end makes a lot of sense, it would be a character arc that goes from a Lone Wolf to someone that believes in having a group and fighting for other people.
Mihawk would learn how he could become even stronger by watching both Zoro and Luffy.
It works for me!
I think Oda can find ways to involve Mihawk in the end game without necessarily bringing him under shanks or relying on him for relevance. He has always shown interest majors events happening in the world him being a Shichibukai wasn't only reason he arrived at Marineford but because Mihawk had personal interest in that war