Questions & Mysteries Why Zoro will lose Sandai and get a Supreme Grade Blade..

[park_min young]

Level 70 and level 100 Supreme Grade Blade?.. What makes Yoru better than Shodai Kitetsu when its CoA Hardened by its user?.. Nothing, we have seen the same Supreme Grade abilities of cutting from far away without any air Slash.. If anything it shows that Supreme Grade Blades are on the same level..

And what would the level of Enma when it's turned into a Black Supreme Grade Blade versus it's original level?.. We know for a fact that Enma will get more powerful as it will graduate from his Blade Grade, what makes Yoru better?.. It wasn't a Supreme Grade Blade before, it was a Great Grade Blade.. That's how it got more powerful..


Says who?.. Seems like you're limiting yourself and your imagination in a story where there are Dreams within Dreams..
There wouldn't be a higher classification of Graded Blades either if a Supreme Grade Blade has never been turned Black ever in the history of One Piece.. A Black Supreme Grade Blade is a Great Grade Blade turned into a Black Blade, it's just that simple..

Go grab the nearest dictionary and look up what Supreme means. The name itself denotes of a highest position or authority. Supreme Grade Blades literally means the strongest class of blades. There is no need to put a different label to a Supreme Grade forged into a black one. The fact that it’s a black Supreme Grade is the label in and of itself.

There are no blades that can normally be stronger than SGs anyways, a Supreme Grade coincidentally being a black blade is such a rare occurrence. Only Mihawk has ever wielded a black SG, an isolated case for hundreds of years.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Go grab the nearest dictionary and look up what Supreme means. The name itself denotes of a highest position or authority. Supreme Grade Blades literally means the strongest class of blades. There is no need to put a different label to a Supreme Grade forged into a black one. The fact that it’s a black Supreme Grade is the label in and of itself.

There are no blades that can normally be stronger than SGs anyways, a Supreme Grade coincidentally being a black blade is such a rare occurrence. Only Mihawk has ever wielded a black SG, an isolated case for hundreds of years.

Dope ichigo avi by the way

 

[park_min young]

Dope ichigo avi by the way

Thanks my man

 

[Rootbeer]

Go grab the nearest dictionary and look up what Supreme means. The name itself denotes of a highest position or authority. Supreme Grade Blades literally means the strongest class of blades. There is no need to put a different label to a Supreme Grade forged into a black one. The fact that it’s a black Supreme Grade is the label in and of itself.

There are no blades that can normally be stronger than SGs anyways, a Supreme Grade coincidentally being a black blade is such a rare occurrence. Only Mihawk has ever wielded a black SG, an isolated case for hundreds of years.

If it were like the dictionary in reality which was the Japanese Grade Blade system taken and based on, then Supreme Grade Blade would be the highest possible in our world.. However the One Piece world and story is not restricted by the rules of planet earth.. A class above Supreme Grade Blade can instantly be named Legendary Grade Blade, and here we go case closed..

You mentioned simplicity before, it's way more simple that Yoru was Great Grade Blade before in context that Enma will be Supreme Grade Blade when turned Black, than having a different rule for Yoru just because you want Mihawk to be more special.. The rare occurrence is in fact a Great Grade Blade turning to Black Supreme Grade Blade..

 

[Vanlax]

Well, you have to pick one, because Zoro can not become a Top Conqueror without being chosen by a '' Naturally born '' Supreme Grade Blade..

We'll see about that. Maybe Zoro is different. He uses 3 swords simultaneously after all, that can even grow to 9 swords.

 

[Rootbeer]

We'll see about that. Maybe Zoro is different. He uses 3 swords simultaneously after all, that can even grow to 9 swords.

If he's different then he's going to surpass Mihawk and do what Mihawk couldn't, to turn a '' Naturally born '' Supreme Grade Blade, Black..

 

[Vanlax]

If he's different then he's going to surpass Mihawk and do what Mihawk couldn't, to turn a '' Naturally born '' Supreme Grade Blade, Black..

Zoro will surpass Mihawk by defeating him, even if he were to by using a knife, or conjured arms and blades.

 

[Rootbeer]

Zoro will surpass Mihawk by defeating him, even if he were to by using a knife, or conjured arms and blades.

He has 3 Swords, we will never know for sure that he surpassed him.. That's not enough, to truly surpass Mihawk he needs push the boundaries of Peak Haki Swordsmanship.. Something that Mihawk was not able to do, that the world will cement him as the strongest Swordsman that ever lived, past, present and future!..

 

[trav]

It seems that Ryuma was in fact not the Absolute King

Ryuma was is still the only characters that canonically made his own blade black. There has been no confirmation that any other character has managed to do the same. Black Blades are highlighted as the epitome of swordsmenship.
What else would that make Ryuma if not the ABSOLUTE KING..

 

[Rootbeer]

Ryuma was is still the only characters that canonically made his own blade black. There has been no confirmation that any other character has managed to do the same. Black Blades are highlighted as the epitome of swordsmenship.
What else would that make Ryuma if not the ABSOLUTE KING..

You're not going to argue that Mihawk didn't create his own Black Blade, so stop.. Ryuma is definitely not the absolute King..

Yoru>Shusui..
Mihawk>Ryuma..

 

[NAMELESS]

If you have not noticed, in Zoro's flashback at the beginning of the series, Zoro's dream has 2 iteration before and after Kuina's
death.. Initially he says in Japanese that he wants to become the world number 1 strongest '' Master'' Swordsman.. The individual who
achieve such feat like Mihawk obtain 2 titles, the World Strongest Swordsman, and Grandmaster Swordsman.. Whenever you lose
the World Strongest Swordsman title, you keep your Grandmaster Swordsman title forever in History.. Now Zoro's 2nd dream iteration
after Kuina passed away and bolstered his resolves is that he swear this time to become the world number 1 strongest '' Grandmaster '' Swordsman..


This is very different than the original claim, it essentially means across all past, present and future Zoro desires to be the most
powerful Word Strongest Swordsman that ever lived.. With that said, you might believe that Mihawk is the strongest Swordsman that
ever lived and he could be but that's not point.. Mihawk's ambition is basically limited to being the King of all Swordsmen, whereas Zoro's ambition is a tier beyond, i would describe it as being the King of all Blades, or manga related a King among Kings, a Conqueror among Conquerors.. Does that remind of a certain scene?..

A Sword chooses its Wielder..

And.. A Great Grade Blade chooses a Conqueror, or a potential Conqueror.. A Supreme Grade Blade chooses a top Conqueror, or a Conqueror with potential of top Conqueror..

As we can witness the appendix of '' potential '' Conqueror with Zoro, Enma picked him and decided to test his strength to push his limits.. There's also the representation of a potential top Conqueror with Fujitora and his Supreme Grade Blade, Yakuza Kasen.. To be able to manipulate his Devil Fruit through his superior Blade, he must possess the Color of Conqueror's Haki and he has prospects of Fleet Admiral as he is the true counterpart to Akainu and not Aokiji, if we are to consider the Sengoku and Garp dynamic.. The Marines in fact have 2 Fleet Admirals level character in each Era..

Let me quickly repeat myself, every Supreme Grade Blades(bar Yoru) chooses a top Conqueror or in way to be, and as prime example of that we have the 2 most powerful Yonkos in the verse of a previous Era Roger and Whitebeard, respectively wielded Supreme Grade Blade Ace and Murakumogiri..

Then there's Shanks unknown Graded Blade who has no choice but to be a Supreme Grade Blade as well, as he's praised for his extraordinary Conqueror's Haki.. Even paying tribute to his old Captain Roger when he was a kid by integrating Kamusari to his Swordplay techniques.. It would be incredibly odd if Gryphon was not a Supreme Grade Blade, especially when Shanks CoC could be deemed second to Roger..

Everything points to Supreme Grade Blades choosing all Top Conqueror Haki Users..

So based on Zoro's colossal ambition and his destiny, it's inevitable that a Supreme Grade Blade will come on his path to choose him and vice versa.. Zoro himself is not aware that he too is seeking a Supreme Grade Blade as it's the single option available to accomplish the World Strongest Grandmaster Swordsman that ever lived who's name will be known even in Heaven..

Nah he will probably forge his own by turning his best blade into a black blade.

 

[Rootbeer]

Nah he will probably forge his own by turning his best blade into a black blade.

Then it's same as Mihawk and Zoro won't be a Top Conqueror..

 

[trav]

Yoru>Shusui..

I stick to what we know for certain and not to what someone wishes for.
There has been no confirmation whether or not Mihawk has turned Yoru black.
You also fail to grasp the past tense.
Ryuma was the king with an Owazamono. That does not necessarily mean he still is.

Mihawk > Ryuma is still headcanon.

 

[Rootbeer]

I stick to what we know for certain and not to what someone wishes for.
There has been no confirmation whether or not Mihawk has turned Yoru black.
You also fail to grasp the past tense.
Ryuma was the king with an Owazamono. That does not necessarily mean he still is.

Mihawk > Ryuma is still headcanon.

What is 100% certain is that Enma will become a Supreme Grade Blade when it's a Black Blade..
That's how we know it will jump in power, from changing Grade.. How do you know that Yoru got stronger if it
didn't raise Grade?..

Where it said Ryuma was the king?.. If he was, it was limited to Wano, not the world..

 

[trav]

Supreme Grade Blade when it's a Black Blade

The grading of blades refers to their quality. The craftsmenship that went into it.
A Saijo will not become a Saijo+ when you make it black. Those are two different concepts.

How do you know that Yoru got stronger if it
didn't raise Grade?

You make no sense.

Where it said Ryuma was the king?

Canonized material. Its not meant literally.
Ryuma reached what is generally considered as the epitome of swordsmanship and was the only character confirmed doing so.
With an Owazamono...

 

[Rootbeer]

The grading of blades refers to their quality. The craftsmenship that went into it.

Not only their quality, their personality as well.. This isn't real life, there's more at play with Meito Blades..

A Saijo will not become a Saijo+ when you make it black. Those are two different concepts.

It will, and it has never happened before.. It will be a Legendary Owazamono..

You make no sense.

I do, Mihawk's Supreme Blade and Nasjuro's Supreme Blade are both able to cut with no air slash from afar.. Famous Blades in One Piece have personalities(powers)..

Canonized material. Its not meant literally.
Ryuma reached what is generally considered as the epitome of swordsmanship and was the only character confirmed doing so.
With an Owazamono...

Yeah, it's clearly not literally and limited to Wano, because creating a Black Blade of Supreme Grade level is harder than a Great Grade level one.. Their personalities are a tier apart..

 

[Thaidakar]

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Both options are true but it's obviously the second one which is more likely. That's literally confirmed.

GB has a blade. The blade is black. Boom he has a black blade, idk why it's so hard to understand a blade which is black is actually a blackblade for Onepiss fans

With that said, shanks also definitely has a supreme grade blade which is all but confirmed but since it's unconfirmed, ig it is "less liklier". But both are true

 

[Rootbeer]

Both options are true but it's obviously the second one which is more likely. That's literally confirmed.

GB has a blade. The blade is black. Boom he has a black blade, idk why it's so hard to understand a blade which is black is actually a blackblade for Onepiss fans

With that said, shanks also definitely has a supreme grade blade which is all but confirmed but since it's unconfirmed, ig it is "less liklier". But both are true

I don't know about other voters, but for me it's like even though it's 98% sure that Greenbull has a Black Blade, it's 108% likely that Shanks has a Supreme Grade Blade while still not Graded yet.. Something like that, it wasn't a shot at Greenbull..

It's a little funny that GalaxyLevel''Shanks'' didn't vote for Shanks though.. he he

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

I don't know about other voters, but for me it's like even though it's 98% sure that Greenbull has a Black Blade, it's 108% likely that Shanks has a Supreme Grade Blade while still not Graded yet.. Something like that, it wasn't a shot at Greenbull..

It's a little funny that GalaxyLevel''Shanks'' didn't vote for Shanks though.. he he

Tbh voting for shanks not having a supreme grade sword would be better since it means he's doing all this with a regular sword