Future Events Will Flame Emperor Sabo face Akainu?

Will Sabo vs. Akainu take place?


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I think Oda is setting Luffy up to fight 3 Admirals at once. That's the ultimate goal.

- Luffy already is clearly beyond an Admiral, and he will get only stronger.

- With prototype of BB he mentioned, BB being able to fight all 3 Admirals.

- I think this was foreshadowing

 
Yes he will, but will lose eventually, quite easily i must say


It's clear as day Luffy will have to save Sabo from getting killed by Sakazuki, something he couldn't do back then for Ace cuz he wasn't strong enough
 
Sabo story :

-his childhood dislike how rich people act and was asame to be born with it.
- got scar from celestial dragon - almost kill him.
- is revolutionary guy
- want to declare war on celestial dragons.

Sabo don’t have any grudge against Akainu, but luffy does bear grudge against. Not to mention Akainu hate luffy the most . Greenbull say to make Akainu happy is to kill luffy, not Kidd, law, or sabo.
 
It doesn't matter at all if luffy were to face akainu lol. Zoro and sanji's opponents are always much weaker than Luffy's and they mid diff them at the end

This simply means akainu >> other Admirals but I doubt it lol
Of course it matters. Try and find a story where the main character does not face the antagonist that kills the person dearest to them. That’s maximum conflict and resolution, a basic tenet of storytelling.

Fears about powerscaling do not change that. What stops multiple people from fighting the other Admirals while Luffy goes it solo? What stops Luffy from having a different degree of difficulty with his fights than Zoro and Sanji do?

I find trying to avoid the most personal and potent conflict for the MC just because of dread about what that would mean for dubious ideas about power levels to be pretty bizarre.
Are power levels really that much more important than a story’s goal of evoking emotion?
 
Well, 15% of the voters say it definitely won't happen. So 85% at least see the possibility. Means Oda did some good job at least portraying the possibility.

:kayneshrug:
There's not really any direct portrayal or statements that connect Sabo and Akainu. Majority of the votes are from Yonkou stans that don't want Luffy to fight Akainu in a serious match post wano as it destroys their PL's.
 
Nope. You’ve got it backwards. Luffy beating the top Marine will justify his place as the Pirate King according to his own words of surpassing the Yonko & Admirals.
Sabo is a Revolutionary whose goal is dethroning the Celestial Dragons.

Akainu hated Ace for being Roger’s son and Luffy for being Dragon’s son. Whose son is Sabo again? And why should Akainu care? Akainu is still yet to even say Sabo’s name. Sabo does not bear a permanent scar from Akainu anywhere on his body either.

As I already said, dread it all you want but Akainu vs Luffy is basic storytelling. It’s the maximum emotion possible for any conflict in the entire series, and fear of Akainu’s power ain’t gonna change that.
Roger's biggest opponents: Xebec and Whitebeard, Garp is not even top 2. :rolaugh:

What manga you are reading? And even Garp is an anomaly who refused to be a Ladmiral. Somehow Lakainu is suppose to be a bigger rival than Kaido, that Luffy should face him after fighting a far stronger Kaido? Even Law and Kid are better rivals, as Oda put them on front cover, not back cover like Lakainu.


And no, back cover doesn't count where Smoker is also there. :suresure:

The basic story telling told us Luffy's main opponents are Yonko. Since Sabo is not going to do Luffy's job (fighting Yonko) only left for Flame Emperor Sabo is Lakainu, Lakainu is perfect EoS opponent for Sabo, not for Luffy. Oda even established their opponents according to their DF weaknesses: Luffy's GoD DF can be neutralized by Blackbeard's darkness, Flame Emperor Sabo's Fire DF can be neutralized by Lakainu's magma.

Yes Sabo is a revolutionary and his goal is dethroning Celestial Dragons, who is the top no.1 lapdog of Celestial Dragons?

Lakainu.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/akainu-doesnt-hate-pirates-he-hates-the-enemies-of-the-government-akainus-character-got-exposed.18324/
Akainu doesn't hate Pirates, he hates the Enemies of the Government (Akainu's character got exposed)
 
Of course it matters. Try and find a story where the main character does not face the antagonist that kills the person dearest to them. That’s maximum conflict and resolution, a basic tenet of storytelling.

Fears about powerscaling do not change that. What stops multiple people from fighting the other Admirals while Luffy goes it solo? What stops Luffy from having a different degree of difficulty with his fights than Zoro and Sanji do?

I find trying to avoid the most personal and potent conflict for the MC just because of dread about what that would mean for dubious ideas about power levels to be pretty bizarre.
Are power levels really that much more important than a story’s goal of evoking emotion?
We will see
 
Roger's biggest opponents: Xebec and Whitebeard, Garp is not even top 2. :rolaugh:

What manga you are reading? And even Garp is an anomaly who refused to be a Ladmiral. Somehow Lakainu is suppose to be a bigger rival than Kaido, that Luffy should face him after fighting a far stronger Kaido? Even Law and Kid are better rivals, as Oda put them on front cover, not back cover like Lakainu.


And no, back cover doesn't count where Smoker is also there. :suresure:

The basic story telling told us Luffy's main opponents are Yonko. Since Sabo is not going to do Luffy's job (fighting Yonko) only left for Flame Emperor Sabo is Lakainu, Lakainu is perfect EoS opponent for Sabo, not for Luffy. Oda even established their opponents according to their DF weaknesses: Luffy's GoD DF can be neutralized by Blackbeard's darkness, Flame Emperor Sabo's Fire DF can be neutralized by Lakainu's magma.

Yes Sabo is a revolutionary and his goal is dethroning Celestial Dragons, who is the top no.1 lapdog of Celestial Dragons?

Lakainu.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/akainu-doesnt-hate-pirates-he-hates-the-enemies-of-the-government-akainus-character-got-exposed.18324/
Akainu doesn't hate Pirates, he hates the Enemies of the Government (Akainu's character got exposed)
So…just the same old feats about Akainu’s power levels. How predictable. :lusalty:

Again, unfortunately for you, Luffy himself already stated that the Admirals and Yonko are his enemy. You can try to pretend that one half of that statement doesn’t exist, but you’d only be fooling yourself.

Akainu does indeed hate pirates….but what he hates even more is the evil blood flowing in the veins of the son of Dragon.

Dread it, fear it, try to run from it…agonize over what it means for Akainu’s power levels, none of that changes basic storytelling. Only one antagonist killed the person dearest in the world to the MC. Guess who that is…
 
Naruto. Obito killed both of Naruto’s family and Naruto never defeated him.

Bleach. Grand Fisher kills Ichigos mom, and Ichigo never got to avenge her.
Naruto never met his parents. On the other hand, the one who killed his precious mentor Jiraiya was Pain.

Ichigo did indeed face and defeat the Grand Fisher as well. Nowhere did I say it was necessary to kill that antagonist.
Why does this sound like a convo I’ve had before? Did we already go over this very same thing or was that someone else?

Anyway, you can keep on trying but you’ll find it’s the same wherever you go: DBZ, Attack on Titan, Hunter x Hunter, Superman, Batman, Star Wars, etc.
It’s just a staple of fiction because that’s the core of storytelling. Conflict and resolution.
 
Naruto never met his parents. On the other hand, the one who killed his precious mentor Jiraiya was Pain.

Ichigo did indeed face and defeat the Grand Fisher as well. Nowhere did I say it was necessary to kill that antagonist.
Why does this sound like a convo I’ve had before? Did we already go over this very same thing or was that someone else?
Naruto beat Obito, that was literally what the whole talk no jutsu scene was about. It was about breaking Obito’s conviction
 

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Naruto. Obito killed both of Naruto’s family and Naruto never defeated him.

Bleach. Grand Fisher kills Ichigos mom, and Ichigo never got to avenge her.
Revenge is specifically a negative theme in its series though. Especially Bleach where seeking out revenge always ends in a characters death.

Naruto did fight Obito in the longest battle of the series (chap. 560~650) and defeated his ideology and himself with Sasuke.
 
Naruto beat Obito, that was literally what the whole talk no jutsu scene was about. It was about breaking Obito’s conviction
Sure, but that’s still irrelevant to my point since Naruto didn’t even spend any time with his parents. The one dearest to him was Jiraiya….or one could even argue his future wife Hinata. Pain killed both.
The main point still works either way, no matter how Yasheen tries to avoid it.
 
Sure, but that’s still irrelevant to my point since Naruto didn’t even spend any time with his parents. The one dearest to him was Jiraiya….or one could even argue his future wife Hinata. Pain killed both.
Naruro still had a horrible life because of Obito, and Obito also killed one of Naruto’s friends right in front of him

you shouldn’t really concede on the Obito point. He’s wrong since Naruto did beat Obito physically and mentally
 
Perhaps they'll face each other but I have Lurfy being the one to take Akainu down. Too much on-panel beef, anything else would be disaagsifying to me personally. If Oda goes the Sabo route, ok, it's possible. I think Sabo can take a crack ag it before Luffy or assist bug I have Luffy beating the man who took his brother, Ace's life and scarred him mentally and physically.
 
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