Speculations Will Kaidou use the hybrid form in Onigashima?

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Do you think Kaidou will use the hybrid form during the Onigashima war? Remembering that we still saw a hybrid form of the mysthical Zoan, since Marco only transforms parts of his body into complete parts of the Phoenix (partial transformation), he does not use the human and Phoenix form at the same time, this is the hybrid form. I think Kaidou is saving the introduction of the hybrid form of the mysthical Zoans to Kaidou, what do you think? How strong would Kaidou be in that form? he is already a monster in his base form, he managed to give One Shot to Luffy easily, he would be a real monster. What about Marco? if he used hybrid form in combat, what level would he likely be at?
 
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That's if there is a hybrid form. Marco didn't seem to have a hybrid form but could transform specific body parts - maybe Kaido's case is similar. We also don't know what form Sengoku used in Marineford but I would assume (since Daibutsu are enormous statues) that he fully transformed.

So, that being said, Mythical Zoan Fruits may not have hybrid forms

Anyway, Hybrid forms do seem to be the most powerful form - moreso than the creature in question as it seems present benefits of both human and transformed forms. If he uses Hybrid Form, it's his strongest form.
 
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That's if there is a hybrid form. Marco didn't seem to have a hybrid form but could transform specific body parts - maybe Kaido's case is similar. We also don't know what form Sengoku used in Marineford but I would assume (since Daibutsu are enormous statues) that he fully transformed.

So, that being said, Mythical Zoan Fruits may not have hybrid forms

Anyway, Hybrid forms do seem to be the most powerful form - moreso than the creature in question as it seems present benefits of both human and transformed forms. If he uses Hybrid Form, it's his strongest form.
Marco used hybrid
His fruit is just special that's why

Kaido has hybrid or perhaps wont use it until act 4 endgame
 
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If Kaido has a hybrid form then he'll be unbeatable, I don't think that mythical zoans have a hybrid form and that Kaido will use devil fruit techniques to amplify his base form and will alternate between his human and dragon forms during the fight and maybe hell use a variant of the boro breath were he will engulf his hands with a boro breath aura to make his punches stronger. Also he may use the clouds in base form to levitate in order to engage gear 4th Luffy in an aerial battle. I also believe that Luffy will one day achieve a level of devil fruit mastery where he'll be able to inflate and deflate his muscles and bones without pumping air to them, and use Kong Gun in his base form to clash with Kaido turning his hands into dragon hands and hardening it
 
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That's if there is a hybrid form. Marco didn't seem to have a hybrid form but could transform specific body parts - maybe Kaido's case is similar. We also don't know what form Sengoku used in Marineford but I would assume (since Daibutsu are enormous statues) that he fully transformed.

So, that being said, Mythical Zoan Fruits may not have hybrid forms

Anyway, Hybrid forms do seem to be the most powerful form - moreso than the creature in question as it seems present benefits of both human and transformed forms. If he uses Hybrid Form, it's his strongest form.
But all Zoans can transform entire parts of their bodies, Lucci could do with his Common Zoan too. I would honestly find it disappointing that mythological Zoan have no hybrid form. We saw that hybrid graduation is the strongest, so why would they be taken out of the mythological Zoan? it would be a nerf in a DF that should have its special powers highlighted, not the lack of the strongest form of fighting.
 
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Marco used hybrid
His fruit is just special that's why

Kaido has hybrid or perhaps wont use it until act 4 endgame
Marco did not use his hybrid form. The hybrid form is like a "mixture" between human and animal forms. Marco used his "partial" transformation, where the user can transform certain parts of his body into complete parts of the animal, Lucci used has already used this transformation, and Marco too. We have already seen Marco use the wings and legs of the Phoenix at the same time, and we have also seen him use only his wings without using his paws.

 
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Do you think Kaidou will use the hybrid form during the Onigashima war? Remembering that we still saw a hybrid form of the mysthical Zoan, since Marco only transforms parts of his body into complete parts of the Phoenix (partial transformation), he does not use the human and Phoenix form at the same time, this is the hybrid form. I think Kaidou is saving the introduction of the hybrid form of the mysthical Zoans to Kaidou, what do you think? How strong would Kaidou be in that form? he is already a monster in his base form, he managed to give One Shot to Luffy easily, he would be a real monster. What about Marco? if he used hybrid form in combat, what level would he likely be at?
He doesnt have a hybrid, he's a dragon who can shapeshift into human form. If he has a hybrid and an awakened state then the already really really sllim chance of the alliance winning becomes null.
 
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Thats a tatoo on one side of his body.
Not referring to the tattoo.

Kaido's durability has been specifically connected to his dragon scales. Even in his "base form" when Luffy used even more powerful techniques on him than elephant gun that he used on the Dragon form.. it had no effect on Kaido. Meaning he retains his dragon scale properties in his base form, but the scales simply are not visible.
 
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But all Zoans can transform entire parts of their bodies, Lucci could do with his Common Zoan too. I would honestly find it disappointing that mythological Zoan have no hybrid form. We saw that hybrid graduation is the strongest, so why would they be taken out of the mythological Zoan? it would be a nerf in a DF that should have its special powers highlighted, not the lack of the strongest form of fighting.
Where did Lucci transform only one isolated part of his body?

We've only seen Marco and SMILE users accomplish this so far

TBH i dont mind if there is no hybrid form, they're all overpowered as fuck anyway - but if it existed, surely Marco and Sengoku would have used it during the Marineford War?
 
#20
There seems to be a misconception about how zoan powers work. It may look like they're inherently limited to three forms, be them base, animal and hybrid, but this more than likely isn't the case for experienced users. A good example here is Onigumo, the user of a spider zoan that was able to partially transform when he grew additional arachnid arms and only that in Marineford. We have no confirmation of what his fruit is (we can only be certain that he ate a spider zoan of some kind), to be fair, so he may have eaten a mythical model; but I think he's just a regular zoan. Pekoms is another example, since he can transform only his back into a tortoise shell without going full hybrid. Other characters have shown abnormal hybrids too, like Bian, the Boa sisters or Epoida.

Now, regarding mythical zoan, it is true that they seem able to transform partially as a regular basis. Not only Marco was capable of transforming only his arms into wings or his legs; Orochi himself, who doesn't seem to be the strongest guy out there, can generate his orochi heads at will. The best example of this was when he grew two snake heads and nothing more while talking to kid Kanjuro. But the existence of cases like Onigumo and Pekoms basically points to this being an ability that all type of zoans can achieve.

I personally don't think that mythical fruits lack a proper hybrid form, though. I'm quite sure that what we saw in Marineford was Sengoku's hybrid, there's no way that was the animal form because it maintained many traits of human Sengoku and lacked other traits from a full daibutsu. So I'm expecting Kaido to go hybrid and even awakened, with certain moments of partial transformations.
 
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