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Will Sanji acquire black flames on Wano?

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#21
nah, he is jumping over is own shadow. therefor the RS is fine.
same as you can murder just about anyone in the streets. as long as you feel bad about it its not a problem really.

Sanji is not developing anything in Wano. but if he is really going to get something new then I suppose he should start at the very basic level of koka.
 
#22
No,I don't see him getting something like this ,on the near future.
I also have my doubts about how much Oda will make Sanji grow in Haki departments(especially in Wano)

Oda added an all around base stat booster for a reason ,and he implied that it can be tinkered.

The rs can be improved at least twice more , once through Franky and Ussop and one more time through Vegapunk (surely he will meet the SH and be an ally ) .

And well, his name on the bounty doesn't really matter . Zoro is still named pirate hunter FFS.​

His DNA alternations might play a role ,but imo only later down the line and with the possible reunion with judge or in the meeting with Vegapunk.
 
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#23
2nd attack he was right Infront of P1... He was just invisible. It was the third hit that he was in the sky.
That regardless it is the RS which gives him the momentum and speed boost so my main point is still supported
The panel make it quite evident Sanji covered a good distance so i will not agree.

Yes, RS provides boosts in Speed and since the RS is also tough, it provide enhancement in attacks and i added that in my very first post.
RS is mainly a defensive upgrade beside providing toughness and little speed enhancement that can somewhat also enhance offense, bt to deliver deadly blows to Calamities, given they are Ancient zoans with high durability and obviously better Haki, higher level attacks are obviously expected imo.
 
#24
I'm honestly a little at a loss regarding Sanji's evolution in the future. I feel as if Oda is slowly phasing him out of the Monster Trio to replace him by Jinbe, since he now has to use his Germa suit to be up to speed with Zoro and Luffy's power-ups. He seems to take a more support role compared to Jinbe, who is a pure warrior like Zoro and Luffy.

I also think that if we haven't seen the full fight with Page One, it's because Oda wants to hide the suit's true abilities and that next time we'll see it, it'll have been enhanced by Usopp and Franky. Regarding all that, I don't see Sanji developping black flames or other non-technological means to pierce through impenetrable defenses. However, I could see him starting to see a little in the future, since his Observation Haki is dominant. While as not brutal in a fight, it is nonetheless extreemely useful as an ability when in battle.

However, i'm pretty sure that we'll see ALL the Strawhats going all out during the final fights of Wano. Expect explosive growth in battle prowesses for all of them, really, whatever the means. Especially now that there will be enough big names for all of them to fight some one on one, which hasn't happened in a long time.
Highly doubt he is out of Monster Trio. He hasn't fall behind at all and RS doesn't mean that as he can still fight without it as shown with Drake. Oda even continue the rivarly and equal status of him and Zoro even to this arc as shown two being only one pissed off by Orochi and protecting Toko.

Jimbei hasn't shown anything to have him above Monster Trio much less Sanji. Jack they share opponent together who they easily kick around like a ball in Fishmen Island back to back. Doesn't really mean anything Sanii fall behind especially he, like Luffy have more serious opponents compare to Jimbei who only defeat is to cream guy and nothing else to put him above Monster Trio.

Also Zoro hasn't been proficent in facing serious opponents especially this arc with no credible win on any if his past fights. It turn opposite of him fainting from one hit by nerfed Killer and couldn't defeat Gyaku, a fox for his blade. Zoro isn't that far ahead honestly looking at that. If anything Luffy got more spotlights in his fights than out of them all. So mostly Sanji and Zoro to catch up more to Luffy as he continue to get stronger in this arc entirely.
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First you need to learn haki in order to blacken anything
He has Armament. It been shown and stated.
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First you need to learn haki in order to blacken anything
He has Armament. It been shown and stated.
Understandable.

I don't really know how ..was just assuming that it might boost his ability

Actually if u check again, the first kick did nothing to P1. The ones with RS are the ones which caused him screaming in pain. Even looking at the impact drawing, you can tell the difference between base kicks with RS and base kick without
Nah first kick did send PO to ground and cause him to stop eating and push him back. Sanji wasn't even using name attack. He is strong without RS. Plus unlike his brothers and sister, his RS doesn't give him offensive powers. Ichigi has light powers from his, Niji has electrical powers, Yonko has strength enchancing power literally, and Reiju has poison powers. His only can make him turn invisible. That's it, it wasn't meant to be offensive like his siblings, so that means his attack power and speed are his own end of the day, not power booster. Just use it as a disguise just like how he first use it. Never said it was a power issue or anything.
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RS increased Sanji AP. Yes, Sanjiboys, he is trash without the suit. That's why Vergo broke his shin. That's why zoan Drake took no damage from his CoA infused kick.
Nah he can fight fine without it. Shown with Drake who couldn't touch him and felt no damage fron his tail and continue moving around like he was nothing. He wasn't even focusing on him and uses COO on others in battlefield easily.

You mean same leg he walk off fine rest of the arc with no medical help? You sure your not confusing it with Zoro fainting from shoulder wound of nerf Killer and needed medical help? Yeah take your Zoro-Brain logic where it doesn't get lost on what it's saying, but your Zoro fan, so it's a given ;).
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nah, he is jumping over is own shadow. therefor the RS is fine.
same as you can murder just about anyone in the streets. as long as you feel bad about it its not a problem really.

Sanji is not developing anything in Wano. but if he is really going to get something new then I suppose he should start at the very basic level of koka.
He has Arnament been shown already especially in anime about it. He won't easily defeat an opponent thpugh as a fight is a fight, so back and forth thing.
 
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#26
The panel make it quite evident Sanji covered a good distance so i will not agree.

Yes, RS provides boosts in Speed and since the RS is also tough, it provide enhancement in attacks and i added that in my very first post.
Well my point was that it provides increase attacks so I guess we agree on that
 
#29
Until we know black flames are a thing in One Piece, no. Amaterasu isn't a universal thing in all Manga. BUT given his moniker is Stealth BLACK - there is a chance. You gotta remember all of the Vinsmokes powers related in some way to their coordinated colour.

Ichiji's lasers/light was red
Niji's electricity was blue
Yonji's joints and stuff were green
Reiju's poison was pink

Stealth can't exactly be Black unless he has some kind of ability to merge with and sink into/travel through shadows? THAT would be cool
 
#31
The main problem we used to have with Black DJ was that Haki normally never used to apply to a flowing substance. However with the inteoduction of flow of haki that is now possibile. Haki should possibly be able to flow through Sanji's DJ. What colour would it be poses a question. Since Zoro has shown that the armament can actually flow as well. This makes me think it will work on DJ as well.

I whole heartedly don't think the RS will last. I see it as a plot tool to help Sanii not get killed straight away and let him get stronger throughout the fight till he accidently develops Black DJ against his opponent.

Assuming Haki increases cutting ability....it should also increase burning ability and it's a given to increase AP. So once this is pulled out on Queen....expect another scene where Sanji's opponent is crying and burning.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#32
The main problem we used to have with Black DJ was that Haki normally never used to apply to a flowing substance. However with the inteoduction of flow of haki that is now possibile. Haki should possibly be able to flow through Sanji's DJ. What colour would it be poses a question. Since Zoro has shown that the armament can actually flow as well. This makes me think it will work on DJ as well.

I whole heartedly don't think the RS will last. I see it as a plot tool to help Sanii not get killed straight away and let him get stronger throughout the fight till he accidently develops Black DJ against his opponent.

Assuming Haki increases cutting ability....it should also increase burning ability and it's a given to increase AP. So once this is pulled out on Queen....expect another scene where Sanji's opponent is crying and burning.
Coa flames ?
Like zoro did on his swords vs killer
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#36
We don't even know what that meant. Zoro constantly says he wants a flame sword because he cant do it himself.

Wasnt that blood. Show me the panel.
I think cutting fire like kinnemon is am actual technique that he needs to learn.
Ive tried its not working just google the rengoku onigiri he uses on killer and on his swords his coa is clearly flames.
 
#39
I think cutting fire like kinnemon is am actual technique that he needs to learn.
Ive tried its not working just google the rengoku onigiri he uses on killer and on his swords his coa is clearly flames.
No it’s not. It’s Zoro’s CoA.

That's Zoro's flowing haki thing from DR. It wouldnt make sense if its flames....or a flame in this case.
 
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