Future Events Will Shiryu sneak attack Ben?

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Obviously Shiryu will sneak attack against Beckman.

As for context, Shiryu could take a woman hostage and try to lure him in and stabs him.

 

[Moegara]

Hard to answer. I think there could be a 1 v 1, but his currenty fighting style does involve sneaking regardless of fairness.

 

[ShadowStyle369]

Not gonna lie at this point how are many feeling about invisibility can basic CoO actually detect it? Sanji seemingly needed to hear queen walkingoda emphasized the noise so did anime. Coby wasn’t able to detect shiryu and it almost seems like garp used future sight to even know what was about to happen ? Also nah I think just like garp Benny will be able to tell what’s gonna happen.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I feel like Kid will take out Ben.

He has a much stronger reason to fight him.

 

[Redboy776]

It just mean ben isnt him. like I say if you cant counter hiraishin you arent seeing rasengan let alone senin modo.

 

[NikaInParis]

Does the Pope pray?

 

[Croci]

With the df, i think Shiryu will always sneak attack in every battle.

 

[Zaretball]

There is no way Shiryu can win this fight

 

[mly90]

If the opportunity present itself I see no issues with it fighting fair isn’t Shiryu thing. His df awakening will most likely make it impossible to detect this man even with greatest CoO. If you get sneaked by Shiryu it’s your due to your own lack of skills he will take full advantage of all the abilities his df offers him

 

[comrade]

Sneaking people is the entire purpose of him having that fruit. It could be a similar situation where he targets another of the RHP to get Ben vulnerable.

People downplaying Shiryu for sneaking but the fact that Shiryu has never liked fair fights and simply wants to kill people without fighting them is my favorite aspect of Shiryu’s character

I agree. It's just that prime Shiryu is being scaled by the narrative of "defeating Ben" and being Zoro's opponent, hence asking whether it makes sense to scale him like this without taking into account that he sneaks into people.

 

[kumae]

Shiryu defeats benn zoro defeats Shiryu how high zoro ceiling will go

 

[Jailer]

Not unlikely, his ability is build on cheapshots

The ultimate cheapshot swordsman, the complete opposite of what Zoro stands for, unlike Zoro, Shiryu has no shame he would attack his opponent behind their back too

@comrade

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I agree. It's just that prime Shiryu is being scaled by the narrative of "defeating Ben" and being Zoro's opponent, hence asking whether it makes sense to scale him like this without taking into account that he sneaks into people.

I mean at this point wouldnt kuzan Be one fighting ben?

 

[The White Crane]

I believe in every battle from now on Shiryu will sneak someone and against the RHP's I think it might be Shanks himself.

Wait, is Shiryu gonna sneak attack Luffy, too, to give Teach a headstart when the PK battle for One Piece finally starts?

@Luffy is the mc What do you think?

 

[[No Name]]

Nah, he Will sneak attack fraudhawk tho

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Either Ben or maybe even Shanks himself
It's not in Shiryu's character to play fair. @Jailer is right, he's mean to be a foil to Zoro who follows the bushido code.

 

[Midnight Delight]

The Blackbeard Pirates aren't gonna win a "clean" fight anytime soon

 

[The White Crane]

Obviously Shiryu will sneak attack against Beckman.

As for context, Shiryu could take a woman hostage and try to lure him in and stabs him.

Cook to be sneak attacked by Shiryu confirmed?

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Wait, is Shiryu gonna sneak attack Luffy, too, to give Teach a headstart when the PK battle for One Piece finally starts?

@Luffy is the mc What do you think?

He can't. Luffy is not Koby

 

[BillSlipton]

Not gonna lie at this point how are many feeling about invisibility can basic CoO actually detect it? Sanji seemingly needed to hear queen walkingoda emphasized the noise so did anime. Coby wasn’t able to detect shiryu and it almost seems like garp used future sight to even know what was about to happen ? Also nah I think just like garp Benny will be able to tell what’s gonna happen.

Wrong. Sanji didn't need the noise.

He went invisible and immediately gained height to use collier coup.

Collier coup is an attack that needs height. It's usually part of his finishing blows. A final barrage if you will.

There was 0 pause or hesitation. As shown in the chapter

We can see that queen notices osome and decided to use soru to attack osome before sanji reaches the ceiling. As shown here

Spoiler: Queen attacking osome using soru

So queens already Using soru. He's blitzing osome.

Spoiler: Sanji talking to himself while queens using soru

While queens running towards osome mid blitz attack.... sanji has a whole conversation with himself and then finally attacks queen.

The truth of the matter is that sanji never once hesitated. He gained height to use collier coup as soon as queen went invisible.

He combined all his powers while moving so fast that queens shave attack appeared in slow motion to him.

People have a hard time following panels. So I get it. Oda doesn't help either. He can be pretty jumbled in his paneling


There's a misconception that coo doesn't include sound. Coo was described as having sound as part of it. All the senses. Including sound. Rayleigh said sound specifically.

This is no way downplays sanji. It's still coo.

Also are we all forgetting absalom? Sanji handled invisibility pre ts. Multiple times. Let's not act like this is new to him