Controversial "With Hard Work and Dedication, you can be Rich", is it really?

#23
It is factual when you exclude the 1% who get lucky with Bitcoin or whatever.
I’m not talking richest, as in billionaires who mostly were born into super rich families, but you can comfortably be a multi millionaire if you have the will most importantly and work smart. This is nothing new, whatever these money Gurus preach is the most basic shit that any 3rd grader should know.
People however will foam at everything.
my great gramps was a kernel farmer
worked long hr days till the day he died
trust me no matter how smart or dedicated one is, your environment determines your limit .
what he was smart enough to do tho was send his kids overseas so they won't do that .

if your environment doesn't provide opportunities
you will not be some multi millionaire lmao.
 
#24
I think what is blantantly wrong with this thread is the perception people have for rich men and the reality.

The perception is that the rich man never works and enjoys expensive pleasures.

That might be true for 0.1% of them if they are the offspring but the rest work most of the time.
 
#25
my great gramps was a kernel farmer
worked long hr days till the day he died
trust me no matter how smart or dedicated one is, your environment determines your limit .
what he was smart enough to do tho was send his kids overseas so they won't do that .

if your environment doesn't provide opportunities
you will not be some multi millionaire lmao.
Well your great grandpa worked hard but not smart lol
The time he lived in isn’t remotely comparable to the world we’re living in now, at this time and age your potential is limitless.
Certain environments can be exceedingly more difficult than others, it’s just a matter of adjusting to said environment.
You can always get fucked by life, but if everything else is stable the current system allows it
 
#26
Well your great grandpa worked hard but not smart lol
The time he lived in isn’t remotely comparable to the world we’re living in now, at this time and age your potential is limitless.
Certain environments can be exceedingly more difficult than others, it’s just a matter of adjusting to said environment.
You can always get fucked by life, but if everything else is stable they current system allows it
you are just far too ignorant to understand even today
people are in circumstances much harsher than even he prob was 100 yrs ago.
you should be thankful you can even dare to dream that big


many others don't have that privilege
the world is vast . Travel more and you will understand. for a lot of people, what you said is not a reality. fact you even have online access is one .
 
#27
you are just far too ignorant to understand even today
people are in circumstances much harsher than even he prob was 100 yrs ago.
you should be thankful you can even dare to dream that big


many others don't have that privilege
the world is vast . Travel more and you will understand. for a lot of people, what you said is not a reality. fact you even have online access is one .
That’s a lot of assumptions lmao
I’m pretty sure I grew up in harsher environments than you did, and I’m not talking about the 7 billion people on this earth, but if you’re at the point where you actually can watch these videos and have enough intelligence, basic education and wits to think of pursuing a dream, then they are factual.

I don’t mean someone slave waging in some rural chinese factory to feed his 8 kids. But yeah lots of assumptions mate lol
 
#28
That’s a lot of assumptions lmao
I’m pretty sure I grew up in harsher environments than you did, and I’m not talking about the 7 billion people on this earth, but if you’re at the point where you actually can watch these videos and have enough intelligence, basic education and wits to think of pursuing a dream, then they are factual.

I don’t mean someone slave waging in some rural chinese factory to feed his 8 kids. But yeah lots of assumptions mate lol
if you are going to exclude people In harsh conditions then its not factual at all .


"I don’t mean someone slave waging in some rural chinese factory to feed his 8 kids."
that's even too extreme. most of the world do not live in environments conducive to success to people who are hardworking and dedicated. personally fine with you thinking you grew up in a harsher environment. what's clear through this conversation is that you are far more ignorant than I am if you think this statement is in anyway factual.


This is not one piece
basic education, wits to pursue a dream, some YouTube vids won't churn out many multi millionaires . if there is no opportunity it won't matter. That is reality .
 
#29
if you are going to exclude people In harsh conditions then its not factual at all .
Well yeah that’s kinda obvious, there’a no point in any discussion if you’re gonna include the entirety of the human population.
Our population here is people able to give whatever this content is preaching a real thought

most of the world do not live in environments conducive to success to people who are hardworking and dedicated
I didn’t mention these 2 things in my original post, but having the will and working smart.

some YouTube vids won't churn out many multi millionaires . if there is no opportunity it won't matter. That is reality .
As I said in my OP, these videos spout basic principles and mainly feeding off the foolishness of their viewers.
No one said it’s gonna be many multi millionaires out there, the degree of difficulty is limited always, but in the end some people make it, which proves my point lol
Hypothetically let’s say the US spawns 10000 millionaires per decade, while a 3rd country with less resources makes 100. People in both of these selected populations equally had the same chance in their environment, not everyone made it because it’s tough as shit, but in the end some do, the system allows it.
The 3rd world country millionaire fought harder to obtain his position, but the chance was there nevertheless.

My whole point is, the fact that countless people did get rich after coming from nothing proves it’s factua.
You’re fighting a ghost here, there was no mention of YT videos, tidy your room read a book and whatnot.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
#30
Can only speak for America.

America is run on Captialism which is rooted in greed and exploitation. Anyone can become rich in capitalist America but it can be extremely difficult to do so. Some get rich quick, some takes 30 years, other never go above minimum wage till they die. Luck is a major factor given the overwhelming amount of competition and rising prices.
 
#31
It depends on your definition of a rich person and where you live. If we are talking about assets worth 10+ million USD, its nearly impossible to reach that level just with hard work and dedication. You need luck, a lot of luck.
 
#33
if you put a lot of hard work and dedication to achieve your goal, luck will naturally flow to help you:catpole:
sure you can argue you didn't achieve your goal as millionaire or whatever but it sure does put you closer to the goal and in much better position if you didn't. my father for example wanted to be millionaire but unfortunately failed. still, he is in comfortable financial position and can sustain our family:catsweat:
 
#34
Hard work and dedication aren't nearly enough, they are both completely necessary but it also makes a ton of difference how you're spending your time and money. Working smart is more important than working hard but you still need to work hard. Efficient time management, setting the right short term goals to achieve your long term goals, and being financially responsible are all extremely important.

The people telling you to invest in stocks are the ones making money from the stock market which is isn't guaranteed. Investing is important with both your time and money but you have to be smart with your investments.

Another huge factor is the opportunities available to you in your environment. You can't control what environment you are born into but you absolutely can change what environment you live in. I was born in a poor family in a small town to a single mother that was barely able to make enough to scrape by and never able to save any money. There were no jobs in that small town that could make anyone rich, the only rich people around were the ones who owned the businesses and didn't have to work, they hired people to work for them for low pay and eventually passed the business down to their kids. I didn't have a rich parent to pay for me to go to college and would have never made enough money to retire in that small town, I had to enlist in the military in order to go to school and learn skills capable of making the money I have and I had to move to where it was possible to grow.

I don't consider myself rich because I know plenty of people who have made it further than I have. But in 2019 I made almost 200k USD. I have a nice house with a pool, a nice car, truck and motorcycle. I should be able to retire by 45 and contrary to what others in this thread have said it wasn't necessary to throw away my morals and I wasn't born into a rich family. I just learned at an early age that you're only able to go so far in certain inviroments, and the more time you spend in those environments the less time you have to make progress and the more likely you are to get trapped in the same cycle that leads to nowhere.
 
#36
The game is rigged.

Those winning are invested in maintaining the status quo.

Especially the ones that came up from the bottom.
 
#38
I think what is blantantly wrong with this thread is the perception people have for rich men and the reality.

The perception is that the rich man never works and enjoys expensive pleasures.

That might be true for 0.1% of them if they are the offspring but the rest work most of the time.
Yeah people shit on CEO’s but I worked closely with a VP once and the CEO was sending me work emails like at 1am
 
#40
Maybe depends on circumstancial conditions
There are alot of youtubers who started as nobodies granted alot of them got into the site when competition was low ie pewdiepie

And for women, you can get well off if you are lucky enough to marry a rich guy
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Society cant function if everyone is rich but they need the lie to stand as true anyway so people will keep the shipment companies delivering food and they will need people to create housing
So there's required need for people to be poor for society to function

Who would work low paying labor jobs if everyone is rich
 
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