Questions & Mysteries WSM & WSC have no competitors?

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Sasaki Kojirō

#62
It is said that no one can defeat kaido on on one.
Why is it that people in the fictional world of One Piece say that Whitebeard can't defeat Kaido? :pepedoffy:

 
#64
Why is it that there are no competitors about the titles of WSM & WSC ?

I've been told that Mihawk's title is shit because only Zoro cares about it but what about the other two ?
Are these titles shit aswell ?
Yo don't talk about that here. They won't like you especially the crying 6 :goyea:
 
#65
Apparently you need to consider yourself a "pure swordsman" and dedicate your life to the way of the sword to be competing for the WSS title even if you use a sword all the time according to the crying six

Then how WSC's title even legit? What if human characters don't consider themsleves to be creatures?
Nami's immediate reaction when she heard about WSC was that Kaido must no be human :

Kaido confirmed to be a fraud @Albino 👑 he's WSC because no humans care about being considered the "strongest creature "
 
#66
Just like they don't talk about aiming for the other two titles. Is it lame that nobody does aim to become WSC?

Zoro's goal is very personal and will bring him nothing other than personal gratification over a promise to a death friend. No benefits come from holding the title, so no one guns precisely for that. However, any character wielding a sword is automatically literally a contender to be the strongest and in the race whether they aim for it, for PK or for admiral.
No, because none of the characters we care about care about the title

Zoro (a main character) wants to become the WSS so it’s held to a higher standard than any title bar PK

Any character wielding a sword is a contender but that’s never emphasized. We hear about various characters gunning for the One Piece (giving it the necessary hype) but the WSS doesn’t receive the same treatment

There’s no tension around the fight or Zoro’s challenge. It isn’t “who among the new generation of swordsmen will surpass Mihawk and sit upon the throne”, it’s “when will Zoro finally be strong enough to challenge his teacher”

It just isn’t as interesting

For the race to become the PK we have the Strawhats, Cross Guild, Shanks’ crew, and Blackbeard’s crew all getting ready to duke it out to see who’ll become the next Pirate King

There’s no “race” or ongoing conflict for the WSS title. Eventually Oda will decide Zoro’s ready for Mihawk and that will be that

That is what’s lame to me
 
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#68
Just facts. Wanting to be PK doesn't mean you wish to be the strongest. Being PK is more about wanting to be the most famous.
It's strongly correlated to one another that you want it or not..
Like Armament and Physical Strenght..

You want to be the most famous in a field that others can steal that fame from you..
It should ring an alarm in your head when Luffy gets bothered by the Idea of not having to beat every single Yonko
on his road to Laughtale..
 
#69
It's strongly correlated to one another that you want it or not..
Like Armament and Physical Strenght..

You want to be the most famous in a field that others can steal that fame from you..
It should ring an alarm in your head when Luffy gets bothered by the Idea of not having to beat every single Yonko
on his road to Laughtale..
Wanting to be PK doesn't mean you want to be the strongest. Buggy already explain Cross Guild doesn't need to beat the the yonkos for him to be PK. He just need to beat them to the final island.

Roger didn't beat anyone to be PK. He would have never became Pirate King if it wasn't for Oden. He had to beg WB for Oden.
 
#70
No, because none of the characters we care about care about the title

Zoro (a main character) wants to become the WSS so it’s held to a higher standard than any title bar PK

Any character wielding a sword is a contender but that’s never emphasized. We hear about various characters gunning for the One Piece (giving it the necessary hype) but the WSS doesn’t receive the same treatment

There’s no tension around the fight or Zoro’s challenge. It isn’t “who among the new generation of swordsmen will surpass Mihawk and sit upon the throne”, it’s “when will Zoro finally be strong enough to challenge Mihawk”

It just isn’t as interesting

For the race to become the PK we have the Strawhats, Cross Guild, Shanks’ crew, and Blackbeard’s crew all getting ready to duke it out to see who’ll become the next Pirate King

There’s no “race” or ongoing conflict for the WSS title. Eventually Oda will decide Zoro’s ready for Mihawk and that will be that

That is what’s lame to me
If there were chsracters that wanted the title, it would have given more ammunition to the morons of his world, they would disregard anyone else that doesn't aim for the title.
With how it is right now, anyone claiming ''pure swordsman'' ''half-swordsman'' ''37% swordsman'' is clearly agenda driven and cannot be taken serisously.
 
#71
If there were chsracters that wanted the title, it would have given more ammunition to the morons of his world, they would disregard anyone else that doesn't aim for the title.
Fair enough

With how it is right now, anyone claiming ''pure swordsman'' ''half-swordsman'' ''37% swordsman'' is clearly agenda driven and cannot be taken serisously.
Doesn’t this really only apply to Shanks and maybe Roger? Don’t think I’ve seen the cope spread any farther than that
 
#72
So WSS is as irrelevant as title Oda made to hype Kaido and WB

Congrats you lowballed the WSS title

Only PK title is relevant in OP

Fun fact you have more people who aimed to be Cd's than people who aimed for WSS

Even Admirals title is more relevant
wdym ? WB & Kaido are wanked to heaven because of their WS titles not for their Yonko status, yet there isnt a single competitor so far.
 
#74
Fair enough



Doesn’t this really only apply to Shanks and maybe Roger? Don’t think I’ve seen the cope spread any farther than that
Fujitora, Law, Kizaru and many more.
If we go by what is a swordsman according to many people here, only Zoro and Mihawk would be ones.
Even doubting Zoro with all the haki he uses lol
 

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#75
Mans think we're reading a boxing manga, where dudes are fighting for titles lmao.

These titles are just descriptors meant to hype characters, spread through hearsay. They are not certified nor should anyone actually even strive for them, because not only do they gain nothing but also it comes down to the public to appoint/accept. Kaidou got defeated, doesn't mean his opponent claims the WSC "title"

Zoro is unique in that he just wants to be the best in his field to prove something to himself.
 
#76
Mans think we're reading a boxing manga, where dudes are fighting for titles lmao.

These titles are just descriptors meant to hype characters, spread through hearsay. They are not certified nor should anyone actually even strive for them, because not only do they gain nothing but also it comes down to the public to appoint/accept. Kaidou got defeated, doesn't mean his opponent claims the WSC "title"

Zoro is unique in that he just wants to be the best in his field to prove something to himself.
Exactly this no way old wb was the wsm
 
#77
:milaugh:Is this copium?

Anyone can be wss if they have better cutting feats than MihawK and other swordme

To be WSC, you need to be as great as Kaido was 1v1 power and durability wise
To be WSM, you need to have a powerful df and great piracy, of course powerful near WB level

Everyone wanna be the strongest and PK,
The world deemed Kaido and WB as WS because their strength or legacy was unrivaled (only Roger could match or surpass that)

The world deemed mihawk as WSS because they thought he beat Shanks lol
Maybe WG gave him that fraudulent title when he joined them
 
#78
:milaugh:Is this copium?

Anyone can be wss if they have better cutting feats than MihawK and other swordme

To be WSC, you need to be as great as Kaido was 1v1 power and durability wise
To be WSM, you need to have a powerful df and great piracy, of course powerful near WB level

Everyone wanna be the strongest and PK,
The world deemed Kaido and WB as WS because their strength or legacy was unrivaled (only Roger could match or surpass that)

The world deemed mihawk as WSS because they thought he beat Shanks lol
Maybe WG gave him that fraudulent title when he joined them
Cool but the question was simple. Why there is not a single competitor for their title?
 
#79
No, because none of the characters we care about care about the title

Zoro (a main character) wants to become the WSS so it’s held to a higher standard than any title bar PK

Any character wielding a sword is a contender but that’s never emphasized. We hear about various characters gunning for the One Piece (giving it the necessary hype) but the WSS doesn’t receive the same treatment

There’s no tension around the fight or Zoro’s challenge. It isn’t “who among the new generation of swordsmen will surpass Mihawk and sit upon the throne”, it’s “when will Zoro finally be strong enough to challenge his teacher”

It just isn’t as interesting

For the race to become the PK we have the Strawhats, Cross Guild, Shanks’ crew, and Blackbeard’s crew all getting ready to duke it out to see who’ll become the next Pirate King

There’s no “race” or ongoing conflict for the WSS title. Eventually Oda will decide Zoro’s ready for Mihawk and that will be that

That is what’s lame to me
Cool story, I disagree. I already explained why you're wrong.
 
#80
Wanting to be PK doesn't mean you want to be the strongest. Buggy already explain Cross Guild doesn't need to beat the the yonkos for him to be PK. He just need to beat them to the final island.

Roger didn't beat anyone to be PK. He would have never became Pirate King if it wasn't for Oden. He had to beg WB for Oden.
Buggy is talking through his butt, he has no real chance to become the PK.. Only the strongest pirates in the verse can become PK.. Buggy is riding on a fluke..
 
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